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Hi.

My wife (American) and I (Danish) are about to begin the process of getting me to the states. First the I-130, then the I-129F, etc. On the I-130 it asks for the last address at which we have lived together. Here's the thing. My wife has been living with me in Denmark for the past 6 months (except for a couple weeks in June) but only on a tourist visa. In the eyes of USCIS have we "lived together" or has she technically just been on a very long visit?

I can't remember where but I feel like I've been asked "Have you and your spouse lived together?" on another form somewhere. So this is a type of general question as well.

I hope you can help.

Claus and Ariel

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If you're already married you only have to submit the I-130, see this thread http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/371824-i129-and-i130-approvals-both-on-same-day/

I-130 Process

USCIS: 04/23/2012: I-130 mailed

NVC: 07/30/2012: Case received at NVC
U.S Embassy Interview: 11/01/2012: Interview and Visa approved!

Removing Conditions

10/19/14: Sent I-751

04/17/15: Approved

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I can't remember where but I feel like I've been asked "Have you and your spouse lived together?" on another form somewhere. So this is a type of general question as well.

What other forms have you filled out? Was it for immigration?

Anyways, you can see this thread too http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/330833-i-130-21-last-address-at-which-you-lived-together/

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I-130 Process

USCIS: 04/23/2012: I-130 mailed

NVC: 07/30/2012: Case received at NVC
U.S Embassy Interview: 11/01/2012: Interview and Visa approved!

Removing Conditions

10/19/14: Sent I-751

04/17/15: Approved

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I'm on a tourist visa here in the USA and I moved here to live with him. We got married last month and we are still living in the same place.

So I wrote down the present address where we have been living together. this is the first and last address together so far.

I think you can write the address no matter what it was.. a long visit, etc.. or if you live with her now you should write that address.

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Filed: Other Country: Denmark
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What other forms have you filled out? Was it for immigration?

Anyways, you can see this thread too http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/330833-i-130-21-last-address-at-which-you-lived-together/

I'm not sure. It might have been for a Danish form when we were considering settling down here. I just remember this is something I've wondered a couple of times. We have a name sign on the door with both our names. My wife has received mail here. All of her things are here. We were intending to live here after her Danish residency would have been approved. In other words she really did LIVE here. I'm just wondering if she in the eyes of the USCIS didn't officially live here cause she wasn't a resident, but only a tourist. She still maintained a mailing address in the US at her parents house.

Another way of putting the question is: If I put down a danish address as the last place we've lived together and it's for a period of 6 months will the USCIS be like "How were they doing that? Was she a resident in Denmark?"

Would you guys advise for "We have not yet lived together" or putting down the Danish address for those 6 months?

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I'm not sure. It might have been for a Danish form when we were considering settling down here. I just remember this is something I've wondered a couple of times. We have a name sign on the door with both our names. My wife has received mail here. All of her things are here. We were intending to live here after her Danish residency would have been approved. In other words she really did LIVE here. I'm just wondering if she in the eyes of the USCIS didn't officially live here cause she wasn't a resident, but only a tourist. She still maintained a mailing address in the US at her parents house.

Another way of putting the question is: If I put down a danish address as the last place we've lived together and it's for a period of 6 months will the USCIS be like "How were they doing that? Was she a resident in Denmark?"

Would you guys advise for "We have not yet lived together" or putting down the Danish address for those 6 months?

Are you planning on filing through DCF (Direct Consular Filing), if so ask in that forum if any of them have submitted the paperwork as a DCF while the US spouse "lived" in the beneficiary's (immigrant spouse) country on a tourist visa. But this is the residency information from the DCF Guide (http://www.visajourney.com/content/dcf):

"Current DCF procedures state that if a US Citizen lives overseas they may file the I-130 for a foreign spouse, child or parent at the US Consulate / USCIS Field Office governing their place of residence. In most cases permanent residence abroad must be legally established for a period of six months prior to submitting an I-130 petition (reference)."

If you are not going the DCF route then you can probably answer "None" as it is not a requirement to have lived together. Many people on VJ have spent short to large amounts of time with their spouses before sending in the paperwork, I am one, and answered "None" with no problem.

I don't want to give you advice that may delay your case. You can call the USCIS and ask them (call a few different times to see what the operators say, you'll soon learn that in this process you'll get a variety of answers for the same question). And just keep asking on VJ, hopefully someone with similar situation as your will chime in.

Good luck!

I-130 Process

USCIS: 04/23/2012: I-130 mailed

NVC: 07/30/2012: Case received at NVC
U.S Embassy Interview: 11/01/2012: Interview and Visa approved!

Removing Conditions

10/19/14: Sent I-751

04/17/15: Approved

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Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: China
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Are you planning on filing through DCF (Direct Consular Filing), if so ask in that forum if any of them have submitted the paperwork as a DCF while the US spouse "lived" in the beneficiary's (immigrant spouse) country on a tourist visa. But this is the residency information from the DCF Guide (http://www.visajourney.com/content/dcf):

"Current DCF procedures state that if a US Citizen lives overseas they may file the I-130 for a foreign spouse, child or parent at the US Consulate / USCIS Field Office governing their place of residence. In most cases permanent residence abroad must be legally established for a period of six months prior to submitting an I-130 petition (reference)."

If you are not going the DCF route then you can probably answer "None" as it is not a requirement to have lived together. Many people on VJ have spent short to large amounts of time with their spouses before sending in the paperwork, I am one, and answered "None" with no problem.

I don't want to give you advice that may delay your case. You can call the USCIS and ask them (call a few different times to see what the operators say, you'll soon learn that in this process you'll get a variety of answers for the same question). And just keep asking on VJ, hopefully someone with similar situation as your will chime in.

Good luck!

DCF is unavailable in Denmark, so all of the above information referencing DCF does not apply to the OP.

Our journey:

Spoiler

September 2007: Met online via social networking site (MySpace); began exchanging messages.
March 26, 2009: We become a couple!
September 10, 2009: Arrived for first meeting in-person!
June 17, 2010: Arrived for second in-person meeting and start of travel together to other areas of China!
June 21, 2010: Engaged!!!
September 1, 2010: Switched course from K1 to CR-1
December 8, 2010: Wedding date set; it will be on February 18, 2011!
February 9, 2011: Depart for China
February 11, 2011: Registered for marriage in Wuhan, officially married!!!
February 18, 2011: Wedding ceremony in Shiyan!!!
April 22, 2011: Mailed I-130 to Chicago
April 28, 2011: Received NOA1 via text/email, file routed to CSC (priority date April 25th)
April 29, 2011: Updated
May 3, 2011: Received NOA1 hardcopy in mail
July 26, 2011: Received NOA2 via text/email!!!
July 30, 2011: Received NOA2 hardcopy in mail
August 8, 2011: NVC received file
September 1, 2011: NVC case number assigned
September 2, 2011: AOS invoice received, OPTIN email for EP sent
September 7, 2011: Paid AOS bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 9, 2011)
September 8, 2011: OPTIN email accepted, GZO number assigned
September 10, 2011: Emailed AOS package
September 12, 2011: IV bill invoiced
September 13, 2011: Paid IV bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 14, 2011)
September 14, 2011: Emailed IV package
October 3, 2011: Emailed checklist response (checklist generated due to typo on Form DS-230)
October 6, 2011: Case complete at NVC
November 10, 2011: Interview - APPROVED!!!
December 7, 2011: POE - Sea-Tac Airport

September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

October 16, 2013: Biometrics Appointment

January 28, 2014: Production of new Green Card ordered

February 3, 2014: New Green Card received; done with USCIS until fall of 2023*

December 18, 2023:  Filed I-90 to renew Green Card

December 21, 2023:  Production of new Green Card ordered - will be seeing USCIS again every 10 years for renewal

 

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