Libyans Protest and Condemn Attack on US Consulate in Benghazi

[B_J 2,752]

Actually I am tickled to death to see it, and i wish the vast majority of Muslims that hate you claim hate terrorism would be much more vocal. At this point I just don't believe that the vast majority of Muslims are peace loving people tha despise AQ, and want free speech and less oppression of women.

That is a very close up shot of what appears to be a very small group of people.

I agree with you. I'm very happy to see this. While I would like to see it happen more often that peaceful Muslims take a stand against "Muslim" terrorists, I think it's also important to keep in mind how brave these people are. The terrorists have proven that they don't care about killing Muslims, so these people could be taking quite a risk by making these public statements.

I wonder if this happens more often than we know and the press doesn't report it; or is this one of the rare times that Muslims have protested the killing of Americans by terrorists?

[sandinista! 1,816]

It's cool, from here on out you're saddled with every vile, rotten thing committed by your gender, ethnicity, religion, skin color, and nationality. Every last bit, from Dahmer to Manson.

Get the ** over it. These people don't owe anyone #######. They had NOTHING to do with what happened, and are under no obligation to serve your ridiculous, bigoted whims. And yet there they are. Them and millions upon millions of people protesting in public and private ways. Not everyone is on a stage 24/7, trying to capitulate to your ridiculous demands.

Actually I am tickled to death to see it, and i wish the vast majority of Muslims that hate you claim hate terrorism would be much more vocal. At this point I just don't believe that the vast majority of Muslims are peace loving people tha despise AQ, and want free speech and less oppression of women.

That is a very close up shot of what appears to be a very small group of people.

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

Actually I am tickled to death to see it, and i wish the vast majority of Muslims that hate you claim hate terrorism would be much more vocal. At this point I just don't believe that the vast majority of Muslims are peace loving people tha despise AQ, and want free speech and less oppression of women.

That is a very close up shot of what appears to be a very small group of people.

You didn't even bother to go to the link before drawing your conclusion, did you ? I guess we might call it "pre-concluded conclusion." In fact, it doesn't look like a "very small group of people." And I see a lot of women there, expressing their free speech, even without hijab

http://imgur.com/a/tlCyI#1VNsT

But it seems nothing will ever be enough for you, will it ?

[sandinista! 1,816]

http://www.buzzfeed.com/jtes/19-more-photos-of-libyans-apologizing-for-american?fb_ref=recbar

more photos.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

I agree with you. I'm very happy to see this. While I would like to see it happen more often that peaceful Muslims take a stand against "Muslim" terrorists, I think it's also important to keep in mind how brave these people are. The terrorists have proven that they don't care about killing Muslims, so these people could be taking quite a risk by making these public statements.

I wonder if this happens more often than we know and the press doesn't report it; or is this one of the rare times that Muslims have protested the killing of Americans by terrorists?

I doubt it happens very often. After those shots the Embassy Employees left the courtyard and reported back to work.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

It's cool, from here on out you're saddled with every vile, rotten thing committed by your gender, ethnicity, religion, skin color, and nationality. Every last bit, from Dahmer to Manson.

Get the ** over it. These people don't owe anyone #######. They had NOTHING to do with what happened, and are under no obligation to serve your ridiculous, bigoted whims. And yet there they are. Them and millions upon millions of people protesting in public and private ways. Not everyone is on a stage 24/7, trying to capitulate to your ridiculous demands.

Am I also saddled with a society that let's women drive and does not commit mass murder because someone made a satire film about their relgion ?

[X Factor 1,112]

Libya is becoming a hell in a handbasket

[Kathryn41 3,205]

post distorting information to create incorrect conclusions that support racist comments has been removed. If you are going to quote statistics, quote them accurately.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

post distorting information to create incorrect conclusions that support racist comments has been removed. If you are going to quote statistics, quote them accurately.

I posted numbers straight from the National Counter Terrorism center. They were posted accurately and I am not sure how a statistic can be racist other than you don't like them. I normally don't reply to a moderator nuke, because I know many of us sometimes can get a little carried away and I also fell you have a tough job.However to call me a Racist is a bit much. How may statistics do you think get posted in this forum every day to support one view point or another do you think are skewed.

I also see posts everyday in this forum that accuse Christians of being every kind of evil and unintelligent form of life on earth, but I never hear the people attacking all Christians called racist.

However I will not be accused of making Racist statements because I posted truthful facts You violated your own TOS.

Here is the article in it's entirety with the facts. if the fact that over 70% of the worlds terrorism is committed by Muslims, if that upsets you then speak out against the facts and the acts of violence, but don't accuse me of being something I am not. You being a moderator does not give you the right to be a bully or make unfounded or judgmental accusations against people.

My link

Sunni Muslim 'Extremists' Committed 70% of Terrorist Murders in 2011

(CNSNews.com) - Sunni Muslim terrorists committed “about 70 percent” of the 12,533 terrorist murders in the world last year, according to a report by the National Counterterrorism Center (NCTC).

The information comes from the 2011 NCTC Report on Terrorism, which is based on information available as of March 12, 2012.

“Sunni extremists accounted for the greatest number of terrorist attacks and fatalities for the third consecutive year,” the report says. “More than 5,700 incidents were attributed to Sunni extremists, accounting for nearly 56 percent of all attacks and about 70 percent of all fatalities.”

The report says that in 2011, a total of 10,283 terrorism attacks across the world killed 12,533 people. Terrorism also is blamed for 25,903 injuries and 5,554 kidnappings.

According to NCTC, of the 12,533 terrorism-related deaths worldwide, 8,886 were perpetrated by “Sunni extremists,” 1,926 by “secular/political/anarchist” groups, 1,519 by “unknown” factions, 170 by a category described as “other”, and 77 by “Neo-Nazi/Fascist/White Supremacist” groups.

CNSNews.com asked NCTC if it could break down the fatality and incident statistics by religious groups other than Sunni Muslims.

Carl Kropf, a spokesman at NCTC, told CNSNews.com that the “only portrayal” NCTC has of terrorism perpetrators in 2011 is what is found in the report.

“We don’t break it down any further than that,” he said. “I thought it was a pretty good treatment of how it is not just Sunni extremists, but there are other elements that conduct attacks, and those are captured as best we can.”

The report showed that the number of terrorism-related fatalities “decreased by 5 percent” from 13,193 in 2010 to 12,533 in 2011, while the number of attacks dropped 12 percent from 11,641 in 2010 to 10,283 last year.

“More than half [6,418] of the people killed in 2011 were civilians and 755 were children,” the report noted.

Coming second after civilians were police: NCTC found that terrorism was responsible for the deaths of 2,423 law enforcement officers, followed by military security forces (1,389), and government representatives (768).

“Muslims continued to bear the brunt of terrorism, while attacks targeting Christians dropped nearly 45 percent from a five-year high in 2010,” stated NCTC.

“In cases where the religious affiliation of terrorism casualties could be determined, Muslims suffered between 82 and 97 percent of terrorism-related fatalities over the past five years,” added the report.

Countries with Muslim majorities such as Afghanistan “suffered the largest number of fatalities overall (in 2011) with 3,245 deaths, followed by Iraqis (2,958), Pakistanis (2,038), Somalis (1,013), and Nigerians (590).”

Al-Qaida (AQ) and its affiliates, considered to be Sunni extremists, were “responsible for at least 688 attacks that resulted in almost 2,000 deaths,” the report showed.

The Taliban in Afghanistan and Pakistan, also comprised of Sunni extremists, “conducted over 800 attacks that resulted in nearly 1,900 deaths,” NCTC said.

According to the report, the second largest category of terrorism perpetrators in 2011 after Sunni extremists was “secular, political, and anarchist groups,” which were primarily identified as Marxist, communist sympathizers.

“Secular, political, and anarchist groups were the next largest category of perpetrators, conducting 2,283 attacks with 1,926 fatalities, a drop of 5 percent and 9 percent, respectively, from 2010,” stated NCTC.

The most active of the secular, political, and anarchist groups in 2011 included the FARC (the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia FARC (377 attacks); the Communist Party of India-Maoist (CPI-Maoist) (351 attacks); the New People’s Army/Communist Party of the Philippines (NPA-CPP) (102 attacks); and the Kurdistan Worker’s Party (PKK) in Turkey (48 attacks). added the agency.

The U.S. State Department’s 2011 Country Report on Terrorism describes FARC as a fighting “in support of Marxist goals” and being “heavily involved in narcotics production and trafficking.”

The NCTC did not provide the exact number of deaths from FARC-related attacks. Most of the attacks and deaths related to terrorism that occurred across the world in 2011 involved armed conflict and bombings, according to the report.

There were 5,895 terrorism-related armed attacks resulting in 4,290 deaths that year and 6,724 bombings causing 4,150 fatalities.

Improvised explosive devices (IEDs) “were the most frequently used and the deadliest weapon employed,” the report said.

The National Counterterrorism Center was created in 2004 to ensure, in part, that U.S. government agencies have appropriate access to and receive the intelligence necessary to accomplish their assigned missions.

There were 6,354 deaths from 3,747 IEDs in 2011.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Media Research Center/CNSNews.com as an authority?

That would be like quoting grist, motherjones, or tpmmuckraker.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Media Research Center/CNSNews.com as an authority?

That would be like quoting grist, motherjones, or tpmmuckraker.

I don't know .. Who are they ? They quoted The National Counter terrorism center, which is a reputable outfit. I am a bit surprised that if a government agency admitted the obvious.

Here is a direct link to the report

http://www.nctc.gov/docs/2011_NCTC_Annual_Report_Final.pdf.

[Kathryn41 3,205]

The article actually states

According to NCTC, of the 12,533 terrorism-related deaths worldwide, 8,886 were perpetrated by “Sunni extremists,” 1,926 by “secular/political/anarchist” groups, 1,519 by “unknown” factions, 170 by a category described as “other”, and 77 by “Neo-Nazi/Fascist/White Supremacist” groups.

Your removed comments omitted mention of Sunni Extremists and substituted 'Muslims'. You deliberately misrepresent the extremist element as being mainstream Islam - a distortion that is as inaccurate as saying that you can substitute 'Christian' for Neo-Nazi/Fascist/White Supremacist groups, thus stating that all Christians are therefore responsible for their crimes.

Deliberate omission of the word 'extremists' completely changes the context, and distorts the information. That is why I said if you are going to use statistics, then report them correctly - don't omit relevant information.

Edited September 14, 2012 by Kathryn41

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

The base quote from the NCTC report:

Perpetrators

Sunni extremists accounted for the greatest number of terrorist attacks and fatalities for the third

consecutive year. More than 5,700 incidents were attributed to Sunni extremists, accounting for nearly

56 percent of all attacks and about 70 percent of all fatalities. Among this perpetrator group, al-Qa‘ida

(AQ) and its affiliates were responsible for at least 688 attacks that resulted in almost 2,000 deaths, while the

Taliban in Afghanistan and Pakistan conducted over 800 attacks that resulted in nearly 1,900 deaths.

Secular, political, and anarchist groups were the next largest category of perpetrators, conducting 2,283

attacks with 1,926 fatalities, a drop of 5 percent and 9 percent, respectively, from 2010.

• Attacks by AQ and its affiliates increased by 8 percent from 2010 to 2011. A significant increase in attacks

by al-Shabaab, from 401 in 2010 to 544 in 2011, offset a sharp decline in attacks by al-Qa‘ida in Iraq (AQI)

and a smaller decline in attacks by al-Qa‘ida in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP) and al-Qa‘ida in the Islamic

Maghreb (AQIM).

• The most active of the secular, political, and anarchist groups in 2011 included the FARC (377 attacks), the

Communist Party of India-Maoist (CPI-Maoist) (351 attacks), the New People’s Army/Communist Party of

the Philippines (NPA-CPP) (102 attacks), and the Kurdistan Worker’s Party (PKK) in Turkey (48 attacks).

http://www.nctc.gov/docs/2011_NCTC_Annual_Report_Final.pdf (page 11)

I don't see Muslim or Islam mentioned anywhere.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

The base quote from the NCTC report:

I don't see Muslim or Islam mentioned anywhere.

LOL good one