I-864, domicile question

[T and P 6]

Hi all,

Doing I-864.

Regarding Part 4, information on the sponsor:

I'm currently residing in Thailand. I will put my Thai address as my place of residence on question #13, and my current US address on question #12.

For demonstrating domicile, I intend to make the case that I'm residing in Thailand on a temporary basis AND that I am making plans for return to the US.

So, for question #15, should I put USA as my country of domicile or should I put Thailand?

I'm thinking to do the former. Any insight appreciated.

thanks!

[Ning 619]

Hi all,

Doing I-864.

Regarding Part 4, information on the sponsor:

I'm currently residing in Thailand. I will put my Thai address as my place of residence on question #13, and my current US address on question #12.

For demonstrating domicile, I intend to make the case that I'm residing in Thailand on a temporary basis AND that I am making plans for return to the US.

So, for question #15, should I put USA as my country of domicile or should I put Thailand?

I'm thinking to do the former. Any insight appreciated.

thanks!

Keep this simple. Are you a legal resident of Thailand with the correct visa for such? I suggest you just use your address in the USA. My husband was living in Thailand but used his U S address and there were no problems.

[T and P 6]

Keep this simple. Are you a legal resident of Thailand with the correct visa for such? I suggest you just use your address in the USA. My husband was living in Thailand but used his U S address and there were no problems.

I used my Thai address for I-130, so the NVC has that address on file already. Don't think I can simply use a US address.

Legal resident - very, very few foreigners actually have this status here. Most just stay indefinitely on tourist visas and non-immigrant visas that require you to leave the country every 30 - 90 days. This is what I'm doing.

Thank you for the input.

Very much looking for additional advice!

[Ning 619]

I used my Thai address for I-130, so the NVC has that address on file already. Don't think I can simply use a US address.

Legal resident - very, very few foreigners actually have this status here. Most just stay indefinitely on tourist visas and non-immigrant visas that require you to leave the country every 30 - 90 days. This is what I'm doing.

Thank you for the input.

Very much looking for additional advice!

You continue to make mistakes in your actions and understanding. There was no reason to use a Thai address at any point because you arent a legal resident. You are as you said and I tried to explain, a tourist.

As you continue to try to move forward you may be the cause of one or more RFEs to undo the confusion you are creating.

Contrary to your understanding there are many foreign legal resident of Thailand. I was a citizen of Thailand for 35 years and have gone thru the process you are trying to understand myself. I took care of my American husbands Thai visa needs for 2 years so am well versed in what has to be done.

[T and P 6]

You continue to make mistakes in your actions and understanding. There was no reason to use a Thai address at any point because you arent a legal resident. You are as you said and I tried to explain, a tourist.

As you continue to try to move forward you may be the cause of one or more RFEs to undo the confusion you are creating.

Contrary to your understanding there are many foreign legal resident of Thailand. I was a citizen of Thailand for 35 years and have gone thru the process you are trying to understand myself. I took care of my American husbands Thai visa needs for 2 years so am well versed in what has to be done.

The reason I used my Thai address was to get the fast track for I-130 processing. And it worked. We were approved by USCIS in 12 days, whereas if I had put a US address it would have likely taken 10 times longer (or more). That likely saved more time than any checklists from the NVC could potentially cause.

I am aware there are some foreign legal residents of Thailand, but we both know that the percentage among total foreigners is quite small.

Back to the subject at hand - I now have to prove domicile and I cannot change what I have already done. If you or anyone else have any suggestions on how to proceed from here, I would very much appreciate hearing them. I'm not sure that switching gears and just using my US address wil work, although I'd like to think so.

[Ning 619]

The reason I used my Thai address was to get the fast track for I-130 processing. And it worked. We were approved by USCIS in 12 days, whereas if I had put a US address it would have likely taken 10 times longer (or more). That likely saved more time than any checklists from the NVC could potentially cause.

I am aware there are some foreign legal residents of Thailand, but we both know that the percentage among total foreigners is quite small.

Back to the subject at hand - I now have to prove domicile and I cannot change what I have already done. If you or anyone else have any suggestions on how to proceed from here, I would very much appreciate hearing them. I'm not sure that switching gears and just using my US address wil work, although I'd like to think so.

You think your use of a Thai address caused USCIS to fast track your petition? Explain how you know that so other will understand because I never heard of that concept.

Checklists from NVC?

Google U S domicile. Then put together the proof evidence you insist that you need to prove your legal domicile is the USA.

[danzz 11]

You think your use of a Thai address caused USCIS to fast track your petition? Explain how you know that so other will understand because I never heard of that concept.

I-130s filed by USCs living abroad usually take 2 weeks between NOA1 and NOA2. There's a whole post about it.

[Ning 619]

I-130s filed by USCs living abroad usually take 2 weeks between NOA1 and NOA2. There's a whole post about it.

Where exactly did you find that info and that post?

[danzz 11]

Where exactly did you find that info and that post?

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/357465-usc-petitioner-living-abroad/

We tested it ourselves and it worked, NOA1 was mid july and now we have NVC case complete

[Ning 619]

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/357465-usc-petitioner-living-abroad/

We tested it ourselves and it worked, NOA1 was mid july and now we have NVC case complete

You are describing and applying the rules for filing a DCF. The O P is in Thailand as a tourist. None of this applies to people with tourist status.

You may have noticed I asked him if he was a LEGAL RESIDENT of Thailand with a visa that reflects that. He is not. He cant use the DCF system as you seem to have done.

Edited September 13, 2012 by Ning

[danzz 11]

You are describing and applying the rules for filing a DCF. The O P is in Thailand as a tourist. None of this applies to people with tourist status.

Actually this is not DCF, it's for countries without DCF. Using a foreign address does fast-track your petition in many cases.

For the O.P. The NVC monthly thread has some info, and people most able to answer his question

[Ning 619]

Actually this is not DCF, it's for countries without DCF. Using a foreign address does fast-track your petition in many cases.

For the O.P. The NVC monthly thread has some info, and people most able to answer his question

I copied the first part of the info from the link you provided. This is very interesting and confusing at the same time.

"This topic is made to pinpoint the exact requirements that allow most USC petitioners filing from abroad to have their I-130 auto-expedited, while some others seem to go through regular processing queues.

Background: on August 15, 2011, the rules for DCF changed and this alternative option disappeared in all countries that don't have a local USCIS field office, in other words in most countries in the world. Since September 2011, VJ members filing an I-130 while residing abroad with their spouses have been, in most cases, adjudicated extremely fast by USCIS, indicating that the case was expedited, although they did not request it. For an example, see my timeline, and note that this "auto-expedited" processing is only valid at the USCIS stage.

The details of this special processing queue are unclear and USCIS operators are not aware of its existence. In addition, a few members in the same situation have had their cases pending for months, indicating they were not placed in the fast queue".

[T and P 6]

You think your use of a Thai address caused USCIS to fast track your petition? Explain how you know that so other will understand because I never heard of that concept.

Checklists from NVC?

Google U S domicile. Then put together the proof evidence you insist that you need to prove your legal domicile is the USA.

Isn't it interesting that you scolded me for 'not understanding' the process, when you're not even aware of all the angles?

You are clearly not the expert that you think you are, and you are overly authoritive and bossy. I have Googled domicile 20 times, I have read all the guides and form instructions many times. Stop telling me to do research - do your own. You don't even know about the USCIS fast track, DCF, NVC checklists and the like. All of that information is available on the boards and on Google, as you suggested yourself.

I am not a tourist in Thailand, I have a multi-entry non-immigrant O visa for the purpose of visiting family. I am not a permanent resident either, however. I know the difference.

Again, I digress back to the subject at hand: In the OP I was asking for specific information on one single item regarding form I-864 and you have offered little or no help on the matter. Please give it a rest.

Thank you to the others for your comments.

[Ning 619]

Isn't it interesting that you scolded me for 'not understanding' the process, when you're not even aware of all the angles?

You are clearly not the expert that you think you are, and you are overly authoritive and bossy. I have Googled domicile 20 times, I have read all the guides and form instructions many times. Stop telling me to do research - do your own. You don't even know about the USCIS fast track, DCF, NVC checklists and the like. All of that information is available on the boards and on Google, as you suggested yourself.

I am not a tourist in Thailand, I have a multi-entry non-immigrant O visa for the purpose of visiting family. I am not a permanent resident either, however. I know the difference.

Again, I digress back to the subject at hand: In the OP I was asking for specific information on one single item regarding form I-864 and you have offered little or no help on the matter. Please give it a rest.

Thank you to the others for your comments.

The details of this special processing queue are unclear and USCIS operators are not aware of its existence. In addition, a few members in the same situation have had their cases pending for months, indicating they were not placed in the fast queue".

No I didnt know this avenue existed anymore than many at USCIS. You must have asked someone or jjust got lucky but it seems your luck has run out because here you are.

Lets keep in mind its you that cant figure out how to fill out some simple forms. You have Googled the same thing 20 times it seems and still cant understand what to do. No you dont understand and you cant be helped.

[T and P 6]

The details of this special processing queue are unclear and USCIS operators are not aware of its existence. In addition, a few members in the same situation have had their cases pending for months, indicating they were not placed in the fast queue".

No I didnt know this avenue existed anymore than many at USCIS. You must have asked someone or jjust got lucky but it seems your luck has run out because here you are.

Lets keep in mind its you that cant figure out how to fill out some simple forms. You have Googled the same thing 20 times it seems and still cant understand what to do. No you dont understand and you cant be helped.

Why do you keep posting in this thread? You're not being constructive and have been of zero help.

And I didn't get lucky, I got what I wanted because I did my research thoroughly. And sometimes forms don't answer questions very clearly. When that is the case, smart people seek advice. You may notice a lot of that going on on these forums.

Go find someone else to boss around with your worthless, ill-informed advice.

Edited September 14, 2012 by T and P