Chevy isn’t losing $49,000 on every Volt it sells, for God’s sake

[spookyturtle 9,465]

Ditto.

Perosonally I would never buy a US-made car. Every US made car I have ever had or ever ridden in has been a POS. It just makes no sense to buy a US made car. I also rarely buy electronics made in the US. Key word... rarely.

Regardless, I'll stick with Honda/Acura, Toyota/Lexus, Mercedes, and BMW. I really don't care how much gas costs. I only drive about 1,000 miles/month anyhow.

What does what kind of car I drive or what kind of products I buy have anything to do with where I like to live?

It's a big earth. Some people need to get over this idea that the US needs to be the big badass in this world.

I'm going to buy the best products and services that fit my needs. I.e. If I only want to buy only foreign cars... who has the right to tell me I cannot? How is that pathetic?

Interestingly, I am going to buy a Tahoe or Yukon in the next few months. Mainly because my wife and I decided it would be a good extra car.

A bit contradictory too.

[Ready to do it 101]

Not really. The decision has just been made. It hasn't happened yet. We were planning on getting a Lexus SUV, but my wife is now talking about preferring a Yukon or Tahoe. Either way, it's an extra car. We probably won't even drive it 3,000 miles a year.

But you didn't answer the question... How is it pathetic that I like to live here? What does a car have to do with where I live?

A bit contradictory too.

Edited September 14, 2012 by Ready to do it

[spookyturtle 9,465]

Not really. The decision has just been made. It hasn't happened yet. We were planning on getting a Lexus SUV, but my wife is now talking about preferring a Yukon or Tahoe. Either way, it's an extra car. We probably won't even drive it 3,000 miles a year.

But you didn't answer the question... How is it pathetic that I like to live here? What does a car have to do with where I live?

The first post of yours that I quoted stated that you would never consider buying an American car and that you would rarely consider buying any American electronics. I find that lame when someone wouldn't even consider buying a US made product. No chance of buying at all. But at the same time, living here and having all the choices is great, but not great enough to consider supporting your countries industry?

[Ready to do it 101]

What does where I live have to do with choices? I've spent time living in Europe and South America, I don't buy European or South American products just because I am living there. I buy what I want and when I want it. I do not concern myself with who made it or where it was made. I can buy what I want because I have earned the right to. No government gives me that right. By the way, most of the foreign cars I buy are actually made in the US anyhow. Though I really don't care whether they are or aren't. I'm not one of those "Buy American because it supports your country." Hogwash. Buy what you want to buy. Corporations have outsourced from America because products and services are cheaper overseas. It is smart business. Does it cost jobs? Sure? Not my job. There are so many jobs out there, I am not going to cry for those who do not have one as there are jobs to be had and everyone has the choice to educate themselves in the field they want to pursue. Lifetime job security should be a factor in determining one's career. That or one needs to be flexible, understanding that if you work for a company you could lose your job at anytime. Jobs are a privelege, not a right. There are millions all over the world that would love to have the opportunity to work, but can't because there are no jobs in their country. Those are the folks I am concerned with.... not Americans. Americans have the ability to do anything they want, and it is not because of some sort of bloodshed occuring in the Middle-east.

The first post of yours that I quoted stated that you would never consider buying an American car and that you would rarely consider buying any American electronics. I find that lame when someone wouldn't even consider buying a US made product. No chance of buying at all. But at the same time, living here and having all the choices is great, but not great enough to consider supporting your countries industry?

[spookyturtle 9,465]

What does where I live have to do with choices? I've spent time living in Europe and South America, I don't buy European or South American products just because I am living there. I buy what I want and when I want it. I do not concern myself with who made it or where it was made. I can buy what I want because I have earned the right to. No government gives me that right. By the way, most of the foreign cars I buy are actually made in the US anyhow. Though I really don't care whether they are or aren't. I'm not one of those "Buy American because it supports your country." Hogwash. Buy what you want to buy. Corporations have outsourced from America because products and services are cheaper overseas. It is smart business. Does it cost jobs? Sure? Not my job. There are so many jobs out there, I am not going to cry for those who do not have one as there are jobs to be had and everyone has the choice to educate themselves in the field they want to pursue. Lifetime job security should be a factor in determining one's career. That or one needs to be flexible, understanding that if you work for a company you could lose your job at anytime. Jobs are a privelege, not a right. There are millions all over the world that would love to have the opportunity to work, but can't because there are no jobs in their country. Those are the folks I am concerned with.... not Americans. Americans have the ability to do anything they want, and it is not because of some sort of bloodshed occuring in the Middle-east.

Wow. Why do you hate America?

[MyLittlePony 340]

Wow. Why do you hate America?

He hates our country so much he need a boot out of USA.

[Ready to do it 101]

I don't hate America. I dislike the ideas that our government owes us anything. I believe the govt should build roads, take care of infrastructure, and stay out of our lives. I also don't believe we should EVER meddle in any other countries affairs. It's really pretty simple. Unfortunately, every single administration enjoys meddling in the affairs of other countries. Why do we have Social Security, why do we have ANY public benefit for that matter? People should take responsibility for their own lives, the military should be used to protect our borders from attack and that is it.

Do you realize how much better this country would function under the above scenario. What I would support (if we didn't already have $15+ trillion in debt) is a ton a of money to be spent by our govt (via taxpayer money) on Education and a Health Program overhaul for everyone. And I mean trillions spent to make sure EVERYONE in the US has the most remarkable health care known to man, with doctors and health care providers being the one who benefit from this... not insurance and drug companies. I mean trillions so we ALL have the same "State of the art, phenomenal health care program." It's not a reality under the path the US is on. We are in debt up to our hair line and we in the US don't even talk about the "real" important issues such as the upcoming worldwide drinking water shortage, food shortages etc. We talk about wars and some health program that is going to cost the top 10% a lot (while they don't benefit) and it's going to be a crappy health plan for the poor and lower-mid class anyhow. Further, health insurance premiums for the upperclass are going to skyrocket and medical providers aren't even going to benefit.

My philosphy is "If you are going to do something, do it right." I suggest overhauling the whole medical system. Tear down the drug companies and insurance companies and start all over with providers being the ones that are rewarded and create a system that is out of this world and let everyone benefit in it. See, I don't hate America at all. I simply am not going to support flawed ideas and theories, and be told what to do or who I need to support.

Wow. Why do you hate America?

[Ban Hammer 13,342]

A bit contradictory too.

if the vin starts with a 2 it's technically canadian.

[spookyturtle 9,465]

I don't hate America. I dislike the ideas that our government owes us anything. I believe the govt should build roads, take care of infrastructure, and stay out of our lives. I also don't believe we should EVER meddle in any other countries affairs. It's really pretty simple. Unfortunately, every single administration enjoys meddling in the affairs of other countries. Why do we have Social Security, why do we have ANY public benefit for that matter? People should take responsibility for their own lives, the military should be used to protect our borders from attack and that is it.

Do you realize how much better this country would function under the above scenario. What I would support (if we didn't already have $15+ trillion in debt) is a ton a of money to be spent by our govt (via taxpayer money) on Education and a Health Program overhaul for everyone. And I mean trillions spent to make sure EVERYONE in the US has the most remarkable health care known to man, with doctors and health care providers being the one who benefit from this... not insurance and drug companies. I mean trillions so we ALL have the same "State of the art, phenomenal health care program." It's not a reality under the path the US is on. We are in debt up to our hair line and we in the US don't even talk about the "real" important issues such as the upcoming worldwide drinking water shortage, food shortages etc. We talk about wars and some health program that is going to cost the top 10% a lot (while they don't benefit) and it's going to be a crappy health plan for the poor and lower-mid class anyhow. Further, health insurance premiums for the upperclass are going to skyrocket and medical providers aren't even going to benefit.

My philosphy is "If you are going to do something, do it right." I suggest overhauling the whole medical system. Tear down the drug companies and insurance companies and start all over with providers being the ones that are rewarded and create a system that is out of this world and let everyone benefit in it. See, I don't hate America at all. I simply am not going to support flawed ideas and theories, and be told what to do or who I need to support.

So do you think we should have let Hitler have his way back in the 40's? How would the US be today with Europe as a Nazi regime? Ditto for Great Britain. And how about Japan during the same time frame? It would be a different world today and the US would find itself quite isolated, don't you think?

So you don't want any public benefit at all, but you want the government to invest in healthcare and education. Quite admiral, but again, contradictory. You said in a an earlier post that you didn't care about people who lost their jobs, so that seems to me that you are selfish. You only care about things that affect you and screw everyone else. You love the freedom this country gives you to be this way but don't want to support it unless it's your way. And of course you know what's best for everyone. Shame on you.

[Ready to do it 101]

Actually most would say I am very self-less, meaning I want nothing. I think a great health-care and Education system in the US would be great for everyone. The US is extremely poorly educated when compared to other 1st world nations. Keep in mind, I received what I would call a pretty good education and my health care is fine. I really don't need the US to spend in either of those 2 areas, yet I wrote here that I think those are the 2 main areas the US should've allocated their resources into, many years ago. So you think I am being selfish stating the US should spend in 2 areas, and neither of them really benefit me? Whatever.

It's actually pretty late for that as we are already $15 trillion into debt. In a few years when there is very little drinking water and food in this world, it will all be irrelevant anyhow.

I don't get into discussions about past wars because those types of discussions are of no interest to me. I have no interest in talking about wars, violence, death, murdering, etc. It does no good to say, "But what if... about an event that happened in the 40's." I talk about today and the future. The past is of no consequence. However, if you want to talk about isolation... what do you think we are staring at? How many countries actually like us? ...and I mean really like us and our war-mongering ways, not just act like they like us. If you ask me that question, my answer would be... ZERO. If you don't believe that as well, you are simply drinking the kool-aid.

So do you think we should have let Hitler have his way back in the 40's? How would the US be today with Europe as a Nazi regime? Ditto for Great Britain. And how about Japan during the same time frame? It would be a different world today and the US would find itself quite isolated, don't you think?

So you don't want any public benefit at all, but you want the government to invest in healthcare and education. Quite admiral, but again, contradictory. You said in a an earlier post that you didn't care about people who lost their jobs, so that seems to me that you are selfish. You only care about things that affect you and screw everyone else. You love the freedom this country gives you to be this way but don't want to support it unless it's your way. And of course you know what's best for everyone. Shame on you.

[spookyturtle 9,465]

The US is extremely poorly educated when compared to other 1st world nations.

You must be from Australia. BY, is it you?

[james&olya 1,121]

Quite admiral,

If he were ever in the navy his rank would be seman!

Edited September 15, 2012 by james&olya

[Danno 1,228]

"Chevy isn’t losing $49,000 on every Volt it sells, for God’s sake"

Finally the Left invokes the name of God.

[james&olya 1,121]

"Chevy isn’t losing $49,000 on every Volt it sells, for God’s sake"

Finally the Left invokes the name of God.

Just giving payback for his support of leftist policies, like feeding, clothing, and providing shelter for the poor and homeless, healing the sick, etc.

[Danno 1,228]

Just giving payback for his support of leftist policies, like feeding, clothing, and providing shelter for the poor and homeless, healing the sick, etc.

Wow you almost sound like you embrace the Sermon on the mount!

You remember that one right? Jesus tells his followers to carry out this way of service to others?

One element you don't find in that sermon (or anywhere else) is the commandment or even suggestion that his followers should make others do these things. Especially vacant is the notion that followers should use the threat of gov't to make others carry out this commission.

HAving said that I see nothing wrong with me voting as a citizen for any such programs if I think such things are beneficial.... I just should not misrepresent my vote as a act of Christian works.

Those are personal acts, not civic ones.

This confusion might be why we see so little personal generosity from those with no faith. "They give at the polling station"

http://jewishworldreview.com/cols/will032708.php3