VISA DENIED...NEW LIGHT

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I have two teen sons. I cannot just uproot them and move them to another country. It would not be fair to them. I am considering everyone and everything. As far as the VJers here...Im sure that they do miss their SO's. I only made that statement because 1) you pointed out that my zeal to be near the one I love could be misconstrued as desperation. Its crazy...The USCIS requires that we only meet once in two year...I have fulfilled that requirement many times over...so why would I be penalized for that? I am a long way from being wealthy by some standards...but I was always 2) taught to sacrifice for the ones you love. Maybe I have been taught wrong...hmmm.

Madam I never said that on this thread.

I have no isses with making sacrifices, it's a good personal trait. The sacrifices you made are not in vain but it's a two way street and I only wish that your SO had made his own sacrifices too.

I continue to wish you the best in the rest of the journey.

[Shoot Em Straight 385]

I dont nor have I ever smoked. However, I do know people who have. I wont debate the rights and the wrongs. No one here knows exactly how long it stays in the system. I have read several different reports that say different things. But it has to do with many different things. I love him and that is what I will stand on. Ive asked for help in finding out what our options are...and many are helpful. But most want to harp on the marijuana use. Well that part is what it is. It happened. Now where do we go from here.

I certainly was not HARPING on your SO marijuana use that is your business and future to deal with...and reading back most people tactfully avoided judging his choice

I was only seeing it as poor choice, particularly, before a scheduled medical only to further difficulties in approving his visa. You Post very kind towards other members on here, and about your SO...I wish you the best outcome for you and your teenage sons in your journey.

Edited September 12, 2012 by inluvnwaiting

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We were denied once last year. Hired a lawyer, filed for the same k1 again and we got approved. So, try try again

[aaydrian 479]

Well, since you asked...I have cards and letters. He presented all of that. On my second visit he wrote a note on a napkin to me. I carry that napkin in my wallet and on each visit, he writes something special on that napkin. The napkin is full now with little love notes. He even took a copy of that to the interview. The problem may have been in his answers to some questions...Have you met her children? He responded by telling them that he speaks with them on the phone and they chat online. But he has never met them as they have not been to Jamaica. They asked if he knows about my exhusband and he stated that he does know what I have told him but he doesnt know any more than that... Then on the Western Union printout they noticed that I has sent money to his daughter and wanted to know why. He told them that I had sent her money for her birthday. And one other time which he got upset about. He told me that I shouldnt give them things without his approval because he doesnt want them to think that its that easy. They asked if he knew that I had filed chapter 13 in the past. Well, that wasnt important. So I dont know if we talked about that. As that filing was a result of the divorce and it has been discharged.

My cousin met him when she visited Jamaica. My mother speaks with him on the phone. He and my eldest daughter text and chat often. My younger boys were excited about him coming. He talks with my sister and other family members. My dad's ex wife has a dentist office in Kingston and she knows him. I am close with his family here and there. His sister is a doctor in Atlanta Georgia. His mom is a citizen. He didnt need me to get him to America.

As far as being desperate...Well, I am a quite attractive woman if I do say so myself. I have no self esteem issues. I own my own business ( for 12 years ) and I am a homeowner. I have 99 problems and a man isnt 1...lol. I have read many statuses on here where women have traveled several times over to see their men... Not out of desperation...But likely because they truly do love them. When you are in love, you dont want to be apart. So maybe I should question those who find it easy to only see the one they say they love twice a year. Not only have I read those statuses about the visits...But I have read those of people who have known each other for less time than Ive known my fiance.

So once again...I dont take anything you have said as a negative. I do understand what you are saying. And I will take it all into consideration. Thank you again. Miracles, love and blessings to you and yours.

The evidence of your relationship seems average which is good. The problem may be organization and presentation. If it was 'so-so' before make it perfect next time. For more evidence (if not done before) maybe submit important snippets of conversations between you and his family members & vice versa (eg asking about: school reports/tests, birthdays, extra curricular activities, events that adults attended, accomplishments, disappointments).

As said before how your husband answered the CO may have raised a red flag. He should be calm and sure of himself at the next interview. Also I would suggest that you tell your fiance everything about your life (short of intimacy details) presently and in the past esp the financial aspect since there is always a paper trail (can't hide from CO) and that bankruptcy from your previous marriage seems to have caught your fiance off guard. If I were the CO and your fiance had no idea about you filing Chap 13 I'd probably deny you too since it's hard to believe a true relationship filled with love and honesty would have one partner not privy to this monumental type of info.

Do you have pictures of you with your future MIL and SIL? Do you have pictures with your fiance with your ex step mother and cousin? If you do then next time submit/carry those to the interview along with other photo evidence that shows these ain't some hobos you paid to be in a picture pretending to be your MIL, SIL, stepmom or cousin.

Just for information sake. It takes 7 years for a USC mother to get her unmarried son over 21 to the US, 12 years for siblings and as little as 6 months for fiance of a USC. And the wait time for Mexicans & Filipinos is twice as long. Which is shorter? Which is the obvious answer? Plus there are factors as to why some family can't or refuse to file for family members in their native country.

[QueenE 174]

The evidence of your relationship seems average which is good. The problem may be organization and presentation. If it was 'so-so' before make it perfect next time. For more evidence (if not done before) maybe submit important snippets of conversations between you and his family members & vice versa (eg asking about: school reports/tests, birthdays, extra curricular activities, events that adults attended, accomplishments, disappointments).

As said before how your husband answered the CO may have raised a red flag. He should be calm and sure of himself at the next interview. Also I would suggest that you tell your fiance everything about your life (short of intimacy details) presently and in the past esp the financial aspect since there is always a paper trail (can't hide from CO) and that bankruptcy from your previous marriage seems to have caught your fiance off guard. If I were the CO and your fiance had no idea about you filing Chap 13 I'd probably deny you too since it's hard to believe a true relationship filled with love and honesty would have one partner not privy to this monumental type of info.

Do you have pictures of you with your future MIL and SIL? Do you have pictures with your fiance with your ex step mother and cousin? If you do then next time submit/carry those to the interview along with other photo evidence that shows these ain't some hobos you paid to be in a picture pretending to be your MIL, SIL, stepmom or cousin.

Just for information sake. It takes 7 years for a USC mother to get her unmarried son over 21 to the US, 12 years for siblings and as little as 6 months for fiance of a USC. And the wait time for Mexicans & Filipinos is twice as long. Which is shorter? Which is the obvious answer? Plus there are factors as to why some family can't or refuse to file for family members in their native country.

OK I don't understand why everyone keeps coming up with different theories as to why he got denied. The man failed a medical test due to drug use. I imagine the CO probably found this completely annoying when it was presented to he/she. They probably assumed if he couldnt stay clean for this short time period to get this process done, he isnt taking the relationship/ process seriously. ( I don't think that, but I can easily see that being the common reaction). So even if he went there and answered every question with perfect confidence and their packet was organized perfectly, since these interviews are subjective the CO could of found any reason to deny his petition out of pure annoyance.

I am glad OP is having a positive attitude about this because like I said before I would kill my fiance! but then again I unfortunately don't have the opportunity to visit so often.

[aaydrian 479]

OK I don't understand why everyone keeps coming up with different theories as to why he got denied. The man failed a medical test due to drug use. I imagine the CO probably found this completely annoying when it was presented to he/she. They probably assumed if he couldnt stay clean for this short time period to get this process done, he isnt taking the relationship/ process seriously. ( I don't think that, but I can easily see that being the common reaction). So even if he went there and answered every question with perfect confidence and their packet was organized perfectly, since these interviews are subjective the CO could of found any reason to deny his petition out of pure annoyance.

I am glad OP is having a positive attitude about this because like I said before I would kill my fiance! but then again I unfortunately don't have the opportunity to visit so often.

I just had the chance to speak more in detail with Papa and he was DENIED based on two things. Not enough proof that we are in a bonafide relationship and he tested positive for marijuana. There is a one year ban placed on him.

Your comment had a lot of BS in it.

Edited September 12, 2012 by aaydrian

[QueenE 174]

Your comment had a lot of BS in it.

How does it have BS? the woman has showed more then enough proof that they are in a relationship? what else could she have shown to prove that they were in a relationship for them to say not enough proof? She has met all of the minimum requirements and then some. So please explain where the BS is from? or did you just want to show that you know how to type.

[aaydrian 479]

How does it have BS? the woman has showed more then enough proof that they are in a relationship? what else could she have shown to prove that they were in a relationship for them to say not enough proof? She has met all of the minimum requirements and then some. So please explain where the BS is from? or did you just want to show that you know how to type.

BS comes from only one place...go figure.

[cdneh 3,112]

I know what it looks like and I do think that I made a lot of bad choices in my presentation. So I will do better next time around. I work closely with law enforcement. I have done so for 12 almost 13 years. I am in and out of the jails on a daily basis. I am definitely not carrying drugs for anyone... But I do understand and I thank you. Miracles, love and blessings to you and yours.

1. All of the pictures included family with us but mainly his family and my cousin because she has visited.

2. I have met his family. I have stayed with them. His children call me their 2nd mom. I am even friendly with their mom.

3. I didnt have any affidavits from family as I didnt know that I needed them.

4. He is a construction supervisor. He was working in Barbados but the job recently ended. He never asked me for anything more than what I offered.

5. I had no letter of intent. Only the letters that I have written him, emails and yahoo messages.

6. He told them how we met.

No letter of intent? I think that's one of the things you need to have.

[SWEETEPIPHANY67 9]

The evidence of your relationship seems average which is good. The problem may be organization and presentation. If it was 'so-so' before make it perfect next time. For more evidence (if not done before) maybe submit important snippets of conversations between you and his family members & vice versa (eg asking about: school reports/tests, birthdays, extra curricular activities, events that adults attended, accomplishments, disappointments).

As said before how your husband answered the CO may have raised a red flag. He should be calm and sure of himself at the next interview. Also I would suggest that you tell your fiance everything about your life (short of intimacy details) presently and in the past esp the financial aspect since there is always a paper trail (can't hide from CO) and that bankruptcy from your previous marriage seems to have caught your fiance off guard. If I were the CO and your fiance had no idea about you filing Chap 13 I'd probably deny you too since it's hard to believe a true relationship filled with love and honesty would have one partner not privy to this monumental type of info.

Do you have pictures of you with your future MIL and SIL? Do you have pictures with your fiance with your ex step mother and cousin? If you do then next time submit/carry those to the interview along with other photo evidence that shows these ain't some hobos you paid to be in a picture pretending to be your MIL, SIL, stepmom or cousin.

Just for information sake. It takes 7 years for a USC mother to get her unmarried son over 21 to the US, 12 years for siblings and as little as 6 months for fiance of a USC. And the wait time for Mexicans & Filipinos is twice as long. Which is shorter? Which is the obvious answer? Plus there are factors as to why some family can't or refuse to file for family members in their native country.

Thank you for the advice and I assure you that we will be more than ready the next time. We will take this as a learning experience. As far as the Chapter 13, it never went anywhere. It was discharge before it went anywhere. So it wasnt anything of importance. And really Im not sure if I told him about it or not. I have pix with just about everyone in his family. When in Jamaica, I am at the house. His mom just left Florida visiting me. And yes, he has pix with my family members. About the family being able to file for him...he is 44 years old and his mother and his sisters have been citizens a long time. He could have been here if he had chosen to. But again...thank you. Miracles, love and blessings to you and yours.

[SWEETEPIPHANY67 9]

OK I don't understand why everyone keeps coming up with different theories as to why he got denied. The man failed a medical test due to drug use. I imagine the CO probably found this completely annoying when it was presented to he/she. They probably assumed if he couldnt stay clean for this short time period to get this process done, he isnt taking the relationship/ process seriously. ( I don't think that, but I can easily see that being the common reaction). So even if he went there and answered every question with perfect confidence and their packet was organized perfectly, since these interviews are subjective the CO could of found any reason to deny his petition out of pure annoyance.

I am glad OP is having a positive attitude about this because like I said before I would kill my fiance! but then again I unfortunately don't have the opportunity to visit so often.

I love him and Im sure of his love for me. We will take this and learn from it. Trials only come to make us stronger. Thank you and GOD bless you and yours.

[Rebecca Jo 1,962]

prepare to appeal and sue if it fails.

Sue whom?

I don't think it would be a good idea to bring up in the packet, or at the interview, that his family visits you in the US.

[SWEETEPIPHANY67 9]

I certainly was not HARPING on your SO marijuana use that is your business and future to deal with...and reading back most people tactfully avoided judging his choice

I was only seeing it as poor choice, particularly, before a scheduled medical only to further difficulties in approving his visa. You Post very kind towards other members on here, and about your SO...I wish you the best outcome for you and your teenage sons in your journey.

Thank you and I do apologize if I come off wrong. I just wanted advice as to how to proceed. I sincerely wish everyone all the best in their journey. May GOD bless you and yours.

We were denied once last year. Hired a lawyer, filed for the same k1 again and we got approved. So, try try again

Ok. Thank you for sharing your experience. We will weigh it all out and proceed. I am not giving up on him. We are in this together. GOD bless you and yours.

[SWEETEPIPHANY67 9]

Sue whom?

I don't think it would be a good idea to bring up in the packet, or at the interview, that his family visits you in the US.

Ok. But what is wrong with that? She is a citizen. She just moved back home to Ja to care for her sick daughter. But she comes to the states to visit her relatives here and I dont live too far so she came to visit with me. When I am Ja, I visit her.

[SWEETEPIPHANY67 9]

Wow, so sorry to hear that. So, does that mean you have a 1 year ban before you can re-apply or a 1 year ban before it can be approved? If it is 1 year before it can be approved, possibly you can re-start the application process about 7 months in to the ban. I wish you all the best of luck. Like to see your positive attitude.

Thank you for the positive vibes. I will research and even consult an attorney. I wont give up on him. Im sure of our love. GOD bless you and yours.