Half of the polar ice cap is missing: Arctic sea ice hits a new record low

[james&olya 1,121]

Another BS thread from you know who. Another hit and run job Steven should get a medal and some DNC cash. He damn sure worked for it.

Yeah, you guys are absolute GENIUSES to figure out that melting SEA ice will not raise ocean levels. BRAVO!!! End of story. Pop me open another cold one!

You missed something. The sea ice melting is not the DIRECT cause that will raise ocean levels! It is too complicated for a sound bite and so I know I will have lost most of you. For those with intelligence and whose ADD is not too severe let me explain. Open water absorbs much more solar radiant energy than does snow and ice. This leads to a positive feedback loop where the more ice that melts, the warmer the sea becomes and melts even more ice. As this ice melts the air above becomes significantly warmer as well and starts melting ice over land. The ice over Greenland as well as some af the ice over Antarctica is at risk to melt this way. THIS is where the rising oceans will get the water that may flood much of Florida and similar low-lying lands world-wide.

The planet itself is not at risk. It was here long before all the species that now inhabit it were and it will remain after we are gone. Humans may survive even a severe climate change. Or maybe we won't. Intelligent creatures usually don't foul their own nests. Are we as a species intelligent enough not to do that?

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Youse Chicken Little's all think this is a doomsday scenario and youse all skip over the benefits to be had, especially to North America and Asia. Think of all the coast line that will be opened up. Look at a globe, and see how much more land will become accessible. And the mineral treasures - several government are salivating at that aspect.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

Last I checked Ice does melt BFD! What would you lefty clowns blame it on if the glaciers were getting bigger?

[james&olya 1,121]

Youse Chicken Little's all think this is a doomsday scenario and youse all skip over the benefits to be had, especially to North America and Asia. Think of all the coast line that will be opened up. Look at a globe, and see how much more land will become accessible. And the mineral treasures - several government are salivating at that aspect.

I live in one of those areas. It is not all good. Ticks we never used to see here have been moving north out of Wisconsin where they have Lyme disease. I enjoy winter sports and anticipate having to travel more in the future. Not too major a problem. We may be able to plant things in our gardens that in the past would not do well here.

Tell the folks who live in Florida how they will benefit from a possible 20 ft or more rise in sea levels that may occur in the future. You say think of all the new coast-line. Its value will be dwarfed by the cost of all the previous coast-line's destruction from rising sea levels.

As to mineral treasures, I assume you speak about drilling for even more oil and gas in the arctic!

Edited September 9, 2012 by james&olya

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

I live in one of those areas. It is not all good. Ticks we never used to see here have been moving north out of Wisconsin where they have Lyme disease. I enjoy winter sports and anticipate having to travel more in the future. Not too major a problem. We may be able to plant things in our gardens that in the past would not do well here.

Tell the folks who live in Florida how they will benefit from a possible 20 ft or more rise in sea levels that may occur in the future. You say think of all the new coast-line. Its value will be dwarfed by the cost of all the previous coast-line's destruction from rising sea levels.

As to mineral treasures, I assume you speak about drilling for even more oil and gas in the arctic!

ARRRRRRGH The invasion of the TICKS! RUN!

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

Being Green

Checking out at the store, the young cashier suggested to the older woman, that she should bring her own grocery bags because plastic bags weren't good for the environment.

The woman apologized and explained, "We didn't have this green thing back in my earlier days."

The young clerk responded, "That's our problem today. Your generation did not care enough to save our environment f

or future generations."

She was right -- our generation didn't have the green thing in its day.

Back then, we returned milk bottles, soda bottles and beer bottles to the store. The store sent them back to the plant to be washed and sterilized and refilled, so it could use the same bottles over and over. So they really were truely recycled.

But we didn't have the green thing back in our day.

Grocery stores bagged our groceries in brown paper bags, that we reused for numerous things, most memorable besides household garbage bags, was the use of brown paper bags as book covers for our schoolbooks. This was to ensure that public property, (the books provided for our use by the school) was not defaced by our scribblings. Then we were able to personalize our books on the brown paper bags.

But too bad we didn't do the green thing back then.

We walked up stairs, because we didn't have an escalator in every store and office building. We walked to the grocery store and didn't climb into a 300-horsepower machine every time we had to go two blocks.

But she was right. We didn't have the green thing in our day.

Back then, we washed the baby's diapers because we didn't have the throwaway kind. We dried clothes on a line, not in an energy-gobbling machine burning up 220 volts -- wind and solar power really did dry our clothes back in our early days. Kids got hand-me-down clothes from their brothers or sisters, not always brand-new clothing.

But that young lady is right; we didn't have the green thing back in our day.

Back then, we had one TV, or radio, in the house -- not a TV in every room. And the TV had a small screen the size of a handkerchief (remember them?), not a screen the size of the state of Montana. In the kitchen, we blended and stirred by hand because we didn't have electric machines to do everything for us. When we packaged a fragile item to send in the mail, we used wadded up old newspapers to cushion it, not Styrofoam or plastic bubble wrap. Back then, we didn't fire up an engine and burn gasoline just to cut the lawn. We used a push mower that ran on human power. We exercised by working so we didn't need to go to a health club to run on treadmills that operate on electricity.

But she's right; we didn't have the green thing back then.

We drank from a fountain when we were thirsty instead of using a cup or a plastic bottle every time we had a drink of water. We refilled writing pens with ink instead of buying a new pen, and we replaced the razor blades in a razor instead of throwing away the whole razor just because the blade got dull.

But we didn't have the green thing back then.

Back then, people took the streetcar or a bus and kids rode their bikes to school or walked instead of turning their moms into a 24-hour taxi service. We had one electrical outlet in a room, not an entire bank of sockets to power a dozen appliances. And we didn't need a computerized gadget to receive a signal beamed from satellites 23,000 miles out in space in order to find the nearest burger joint.

But isn't it sad the current generation laments how wasteful we old folks were just because we didn't have the green thing back then?

Please forward this on to another selfish old person who needs a lesson in conservation from a smartass young person.

We don't like being old in the first place, so it doesn't take much to piss us off.

[spookyturtle 9,466]