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[The Nature Boy 4,224]

On National TV. I loosely quote-- "When Clinton left office we were on a path to debt decrease but after a few short years Bush had erased that and increased the Debt by XXX Billion. This proves the Republicans don't care about the debt.

Now I agree Bush ran up the debt and spent like a drunken Democrat. However Obama has been in office going on 4 years and increased the debt by almost 5 trillion.

Is Pelosi that stupid or does she think we are.. I can;t imagine anyone saying that with a straight face. How could in 2012 after what Obama has done to the debt any democrat be stupid enough to be talking about what Bush did to the debt. Is America and the democratic base really that dumb ??/ Someone pinch me !

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

[Neonred 3,648]

Come on, you should know the answer.....Pelosi IS that stupid!

[dalegg 143]

This is why--

Democrats believe one or both of two things.

1) Economic accountability ended in 2008. Anything that happened after that is not worth putting on a graph.

2) Despite the fact that Obama has been in office for 3 1/2 years, it is more accurate to base his performance on what the previous Democratic president did than on his own record. Furthermore, the fact that George Bush had high deficits means that Obama did not, since Obama is not a Republican.

Edited September 5, 2012 by dalegg

[belinda63 3,047]

Well depends on what you blame Obama for. Do you blame him for the last minute bank bailouts that the Bush administration pushed through? How about the two wars Bush started and left Obama to clean up? Or the bloated Department of Homeland Security created by the Bush administration?

And most important let us remember the President doesn't make laws nor does he pass budgets, it is the Republican Congress that decides how much money to spend.

[dalegg 143]

Well depends on what you blame Obama for. Do you blame him for the last minute bank bailouts that the Bush administration pushed through? How about the two wars Bush started and left Obama to clean up? Or the bloated Department of Homeland Security created by the Bush administration?

And most important let us remember the President doesn't make laws nor does he pass budgets, it is the Republican Congress that decides how much money to spend.

And this is exactly why you should be shocked. Despite not having last minute bailouts...despite not having to fund Iraq as heavily as Bush did..depite no new Tarp...still, Obama has higher deficits than did Bush.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Democrats believe one or both of two things.

1) Economic accountability ended in 2008. Anything that happened after that is not worth putting on a graph.

2) Despite the fact that Obama has been in office for 3 1/2 years, it is more accurate to base his performance on what the previous Democratic president did than on his own record. Furthermore, the fact that George Bush had high deficits means that Obama did not, since Obama is not a Republican.

1) Not at all. In fact, let's put it on a graph.

2) Obama is running on his record. Don't know about you but I take 4.5 million private sector jobs created over the last couple of years over up to 0.8 million lost every fcuking month 4 years ago.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

And this is exactly why you should be shocked. Despite not having last minute bailouts...despite not having to fund Iraq as heavily as Bush did..depite no new Tarp...still, Obama has higher deficits than did Bush.

It's what happens when the economy contracts some 9% because of failed trickle down voodoo economic policies. Takes time to get out from under that. Everyone knows that, of course, but Republicans want you to believe that they would have done better. Well, we lived through what they created and left behind. And now they want to do it all over again. That might sound great if you suffer from amnesia but otherwise it just stinks.

[dalegg 143]

1) Not at all. In fact, let's put it on a graph.

2) Obama is running on his record. Don't know about you but I take 4.5 million private sector jobs created over the last couple of years over up to 0.8 million lost every fcuking month 4 years ago.

Oh yes, another one of those graphs that seems to say a lot, but actually says nothing.

How shocking it is that during a recession jobs were lost, and during a recovery jobs were added.

But jobs gained and lost is not what I was talking about. Its the magical deficit graph that democrats like to put up that suddenly disappears at 2008 that I love.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

and thank you for proving my point. You can not defend Obama without pointing a finger at someone else. It is not possible. So it's cool Obama has run the debt up because Reagan did to. ?? Geez no wonder this country is in trouble.

You cute little chart forgot to add the Blue Obama years. Of course it may not have fir on the screen LOL

Edited September 5, 2012 by Run Herschel Run

[dalegg 143]

Well, we lived through what they created and left behind. And now they want to do it all over again. That might sound great if you suffer from amnesia but otherwise it just stinks.

I really do not get why you say this. There is no evidence from what I've seen that there was some failure there. Every one says that the financial meltdown is what caused the recession. Lower taxes on the wealthy did not cause the financial meltdown. Stupid lending practices did.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

1) Not at all. In fact, let's put it on a graph.

2) Obama is running on his record. Don't know about you but I take 4.5 million private sector jobs created over the last couple of years over up to 0.8 million lost every fcuking month 4 years ago.

and when you add in Job loss where does that leave us ??

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

But jobs gained and lost is not what I was talking about. Its the magical deficit graph that democrats like to put up that suddenly disappears at 2008 that I love.

Under current law, deficits will go to less than 2% by 2014. If we could just get Congress to do NOTHING at all, the deficit would literally disappear all on its own. Of course, that's not going to happen. The question is, can Congress do pay-go or not. Well, it can. It's been done before. And then the Republicans took over...

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

1) Not at all. In fact, let's put it on a graph.

2) Obama is running on his record. Don't know about you but I take 4.5 million private sector jobs created over the last couple of years over up to 0.8 million lost every fcuking month 4 years ago.

How about a graph that takes in all the numbers

[Darnell 8,479]

What? An Elected Congressman showed up at the DNC and gave a speech? huh?

Who let that happen?