You Didn't Build This

[Teddy B 17,252]

How does gov't build anything without tax money? Where does tax money come from? Businesess and their employees. It is gov't that cannot build anything on it's own, not people.

[JohnR! 5,495]

So if I work 70 hours a week to build a house and an arsonist burns it down is it not true I built it and someone else burned it down. So it is possible for one build and another to destroy.

Liberal logic is insane. So if you reverse your logic you are agreeing with Obama that it takes the government to build a business.

I don't think anyone is is saying that if a business fails it is the governments fault. They are saying get the government out of the way and let us succeed or fail on our own merits.

Au contraire. What I am saying is that if you truly believe you can build a business on your own - in a vacuum - then if the business should fail, you can't blame any external influences.

I am not agreeing with Obama, so much as I am disagreeing with the premise of the thread.

I agree however with your last statement. Let one succeed or fail on one's own.

Edited August 31, 2012 by Gegel

[Ban Hammer 13,558]

Here you go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EZQvSCGaJI

[kytwell 179]

Au contraire. What I am saying is that if you truly believe you can build a business on your own - in a vacuum - then if the business should fail, you can't blame any external influences.

I am not agreeing with Obama, so much as I am disagreeing with the premise of the thread.

I agree however with your last statement. Let one succeed or fail on one's own.

If you could kick the person in the pants responsible for most of your trouble, you wouldn't sit for a month.

Theodore Roosevelt

[JohnR! 5,495]

How does gov't build anything without tax money? Where does tax money come from? Businesess and their employees. It is gov't that cannot build anything on it's own, not people.

Tax money come from taxpayers who gave their elected officials proxy to contract certain debts on their behalf. Sometimes these debts are evident - roads, bridges, infrastructure - and in other instances they are intangible, such as wars, foreign aid, etc.

In this context that you present, it would be fair to say, that it would be very hard for one's business to succeed if the government one's elected did not provide with some of the infrastructure without which a business would fail. It would also be very hard to imagine any business succeeding without customers. I think that most business share that notion when they do express appreciation for their customers. Only the other day, at the oil change place where I take my vehicles, the owner came out and thanked me for my patronage. I am sure he would agree with me in saying he built it himself and we help him support his business.

If businesses could be built and therefore sustained in a vacuum, communism would have succeeded and capitalism would have crumbled. We depend on each other, at some level, at all times.

Edited August 31, 2012 by Gegel

[Teddy B 17,252]

Tax money come from taxpayers who gave their elected officials proxy to contract certain debts on their behalf. Sometimes these debts are evident - roads, bridges, infrastructure - and in other instances they are intangible, such as wars, foreign aid, etc.

In this context that you present, it would be fair to say, that it would be very hard for one's business to succeed if the government one's elected did not provide with some of the infrastructure without which a business would fail. It would also be very hard to imagine any business succeeding without customers. I think that most business share that notion when they do express appreciation for their customers. Only the other day, at the oil change place where I take my vehicles, the owner came out and thanked me for my patronage. I am sure he would agree with me in saying he built it himself and we help him support his business.

If businesses could be built and therefore sustained in a vacuum, communism would have succeeded and capitalism would have crumbled. We depend on each other, at some level, at all times.

It's very simple. Tax money from working people support gov't., without it gov't couldn't and wouldn't exist. People build gov't, which in turn allows gov't to build bridges and infrastructure. So not only do people have the right to say they built something, they also have the right to say they helped pay for it.

[JohnR! 5,495]

It's very simple. Tax money from working people support gov't., without it gov't couldn't and wouldn't exist. People build gov't, which in turn allows gov't to build bridges and infrastructure. So not only do people have the right to say they built something, they also have the right to say they helped pay for it.

That is precisely my point. It would be ludicrous to state that anyone builds anything alone. Furthermore, when it comes to business there is no ending to building it or keeping it up. It is an ongoing process and you're never done.

Hence the term 'administration' being used interchangeably with 'government'.

Edited August 31, 2012 by Gegel

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

How did we ever survive without the Liberal mind?

My link

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Our President disagrees with the both of you.

In his State of the Union Address, President Obama highlighted the importance of making America a better place to do business saying, "to help our companies compete, we also have to knock down barriers that stand in the way of their success. To reduce barriers to growth and investment, I've ordered a review of government regulations. When we find rules that put an unnecessary burden on businesses, we will fix them ..."

http://www.sddt.com/...ode=20110203tzc

He also said deficit spending was unpatriotic, he would close Gitmo cut the deficit in half yada yada yada

[kytwell 179]

He also said deficit spending was unpatriotic, he would close Gitmo cut the deficit in half yada yada yada

That's why he has got to go.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

He also said deficit spending was unpatriotic, he would close Gitmo cut the deficit in half yada yada yada

It's not like he didn't try.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

[Pooky 3,830]

Pity they're lying again

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

It's not like he didn't try.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

So you're saying he didn't attempt to have Gitmo closed? Okay then.