'Drink Less, Work More', Billionaire Tells Non-Rich

[Teddy B 17,252]

You're the one who claimed there were jealous people in this thread.

I believe there are, are you one of them?

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

I believe there are, are you one of them?

Well... according to the insinuation in your post, you've already determined that people in this thread who disagree with your opinion about Gina are "jealous." However, I didn't really think you'd be willing to "own" your own words when called out on it.

Anyway, it seems Gina's comments are getting a lot of criticism in Australia:

Critics of Gina Rinehart, Australia's richest woman, were lining up yesterday to condemn advice that she gave on how to become a millionaire.

In her regular column in Australian Resources and Investment magazine, she writes that those who are jealous of the wealthy should start working harder and cut down on drinking, smoking and socialising.

Rinehart says it is billionaires like herself who are doing more than anyone to help the poor by investing their money and creating jobs.

"There is no monopoly on becoming a millionaire," Rinehart wrote.

"If you're jealous of those with more money, don't just sit there and complain.

"Do something to make more money yourself - spend less time drinking or smoking and socialising, and more time working.

"Become one of those people who work hard, invest and build, and at the same time create employment and opportunities for others."

She also suggested the Government should lower the minimum wage of $606.40 a week and cut taxes to stimulate employment and also writes that her "great friend Michael Kailis" started his crayfish empire using prisoners from a local jail as labour.

She says that would probably be against regulations today.

Several critics pointed out that Rinehart was not a self-made millionaire.

Federal crossbencher Bob Katter says Rinehart's advice left out the bit about "daddy being a major cattle station owner and the biggest mining magnate in Australia".

"That helps as well," he told reporters in Cairns, agreeing that billionaires were out of touch with ordinary Australians.

Katter said Rinehart has been given the go-ahead by state and federal governments to bring in thousands of foreign workers.

Treasurer Wayne Swan did his best to hang Rinehart's comments around the neck of Opposition Leader Tony Abbott.

He said Rinehart's comments were an insult to the millions of Australian workers who slog it out to feed the kids and pay the bills.

"[Opposition Leader] Tony Abbott is Gina's knight in shining armour when it comes to fighting for tax cuts for her and Clive Palmer.

"The question for Tony Abbott today is, does he agree with Gina Rinehart that Aussies are lazy workers who drink and socialise too much?"

Abbott yesterday had yet to respond publicly to Rinehart's remarks.

Former Prime Minister Kevin Rudd chimed in.

"I think this view of hers is just plain wrong and life's more complex than that," he said.

Rinehart should try living on the minimum wage before calling for it to be cut, federal Health Minister Tanya Plibersek said.

Australian Greens Senator Lee Rhiannon told Channel Seven she respected success but Rinehart was not self-made.

"She's accumulated wealth from her family."

COMMENTS 'TWISTED LOGIC'

Building union chief Tony Maher said Rinehart's comments showed why Australia's mining billionaires should not lead Australia's economic debate.

The Construction Forestry Mining and Energy Union national president said that Rinehart's comments revealed her "twisted logic".

"At the same time as trying to import cheap foreign labour and avoid paying tax, Rinehart claims it's millionaires and billionaires who are the greatest for social good.

"What planet is she living on?"

Maher said Rinehart was born into a mining fortune and once you had such a fortune it wasn't hard to build on it, especially in an era of record prices for Australian resources.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10830637

[Teddy B 17,252]

Well... according to the insinuation in your post, you've already determined that people in this thread who disagree with your opinion about Gina are "jealous." However, I didn't really think you'd be willing to "own" your own words when called out on it.

Anyway, it seems Gina's comments are getting a lot of criticism in Australia:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10830637

Wrong, you are the one who came to that conclusion, I never stated anything even remotely close to that.

Seeing you are unable to answer my question of whether or not you are jealous of this woman, I will have to assume that you are and you are to ashamed to admit it. Why else would you not just say no I'm not jealous?

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

Wrong, you are the one who came to that conclusion, I never stated anything even remotely close to that.

Seeing you are unable to answer my question of whether or not you are jealous of this woman, I will have to assume that you are and you are to ashamed to admit it. Why else would you not just say no I'm not jealous?

"Unable" ? You wouldn't answer my question about who you were calling a liberal, or who you were accusing of being "jealous," and on and on. Yet I'm supposed to jump when you say "frog."

Ted - you may assume away to your heart's content - it's not like anything anyone actually says will dissuade you from "confirming" your own assumptions to yourself.

Maybe you'll address this question: How does Gina "help" the poor of Australia by paying less in taxes while hiring foreign workers at lower pay ?

Edited August 31, 2012 by wife_of_mahmoud

[Teddy B 17,252]

"Unable" ? You wouldn't answer my question about who you were calling a liberal, or who you were accusing of being "jealous," and on and on. Yet I'm supposed to jump when you say "frog."

Ted - you may assume away to your heart's content - it's not like anything anyone actually says will dissuade you from "confirming" your own assumptions to yourself.

Maybe you'll address this question: How does Gina "help" the poor of Australia by paying less in taxes while hiring foreign workers at lower pay ?

Why are you letting your jealousy get the better of you?

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

Why are you letting your jealousy get the better of you?

Why are you letting your assumptions get the better of you ?

[LSnBigBear 61]

This is from one of the many "Not self-made billionaires" in the world. Oh how it is easy to give advice when you had nannies and maids raise you because you were born into the lucky sperm club. I guess being the daughter of a billionaire himself helps out alot (Lang Hancock). I take advice from self made grew up poor people. Not those like her that inherited wealth. And yes folks I am happy and employed. But I do like my beer

Cheers

Shawn AKA Big Bear

[Teddy B 17,252]

Why are you letting your assumptions get the better of you ?

Maybe if you quit the smokin and drinkin, got off of your couch and applied yourself, you could be successful too.

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

This is from one of the many "Not self-made billionaires" in the world. Oh how it is easy to give advice when you had nannies and maids raise you because you were born into the lucky sperm club. I guess being the daughter of a billionaire himself helps out alot (Lang Hancock). I take advice from self made grew up poor people. Not those like her that inherited wealth. And yes folks I am happy and employed. But I do like my beer

Cheers

Shawn AKA Big Bear

You must be jealous.

[Teddy B 17,252]

This is from one of the many "Not self-made billionaires" in the world. Oh how it is easy to give advice when you had nannies and maids raise you because you were born into the lucky sperm club. I guess being the daughter of a billionaire himself helps out alot (Lang Hancock). I take advice from self made grew up poor people. Not those like her that inherited wealth. And yes folks I am happy and employed. But I do like my beer

Cheers

Shawn AKA Big Bear

That sounds like a great recipe for success there Shawn. Let us all know how it works out for you.

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

Maybe if you quit the smokin and drinkin, got off of your couch and applied yourself, you could be successful too.

Oh... so now I am not merely "jealous," but also a lazy, unsuccessful smoker-drinker who does not "apply" myself.

How about I assume that the subject of how Rinehart is improving the lives of Australia's poor - by paying fewer taxes and hiring foreign workers at lower pay - is a little too tough for you to tackle

[Teddy B 17,252]

Oh... so now I am not merely "jealous," but also a lazy, unsuccessful smoker-drinker who does not "apply" myself.

How about I assume that the subject of how Rinehart is improving the lives of Australia's poor - by paying fewer taxes and hiring foreign workers at lower pay - is a little too tough for you to tackle

She has no obligation to do so. Stop the jealousy!

Edited August 31, 2012 by Teddy B

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

She has no obligation to do so. Stop the jealousy!

It's what she claimed:

Rinehart says it is billionaires like herself who are doing more than anyone to help the poor by investing their money and creating jobs.

As for your pic, I have no idea what it has to do with either the thread, or me personally.

[Teddy B 17,252]

It's what she claimed:

As for your pic, I have no idea what it has to do with either the thread, or me personally.

I don't care what she has claimed. I'm not jealous of what she has, she can do whatever she wants with her money, as long as it's legal it doesn't matter to me. The only people who would concern themselves with what other people do with their own money are jealous people.

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

I don't care what she has claimed. I'm not jealous of what she has, she can do whatever she wants with her money, as long as it's legal it doesn't matter to me. The only people who would concern themselves with what other people do with their own money are jealous people.

You have yet to make a coherent argument about why criticizing Rinehart's remarks, or pointing out her hypocrisy, is evidence of "jealousy."

Again - what does your pic of a hijabi woman smoking hookah while at her laptop in a shisha cafe have to do with this thread, or me ?