Immigrant wife entered marriage in bad faith

[Joseyjava 1]

Honestly? I don't have sympathy for people who meet someone online and then in real life all of two times before they get married (all within a six month time frame) and then find out they've been scammed. I've been apart from my husband now for 14 months and we STILL have to complete NVC and the 601. I can't even tell you how hard it is to see people get approved and complete their journey in 4 months time when I have a REAL relationship, met him in REAL life and am not getting SCAMMED. So sue me for being so "judgmental" when this process is ANYTHING but fair.

agree.

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Thank you so very much for posting this and I share your sentiments.

Just one more thing to add.

The State department is also cuplable. A type of visa needs to be created that will give K1 beneficiaries a tourist type of visa for that 90 days before the K1 kicks in. The tourit visa type will have no benefit except taht it can be upgraded to a K1 stateside. It will also NEVER have an opportunity to be converted to a resident path.

This gives every one involved an opportunity to test the waters, so to speak.

[Xanax 349]

I say file a case with ICE but don't expect anything or you might end up even more hurt and disappointed. Also I would get a divorce ASAP. As Vanessa said, not divorcing won't hurt her or specifically make it harder.

I wish you luck and I am sorry this happened to you.

[Justud 42]

i hate to hear these kinds of stories. Good luck with whatever you decide to do.

[Gosia & Tito 199]

Just one more thing to add.

The State department is also cuplable. A type of visa needs to be created that will give K1 beneficiaries a tourist type of visa for that 90 days before the K1 kicks in. The tourit visa type will have no benefit except taht it can be upgraded to a K1 stateside. It will also NEVER have an opportunity to be converted to a resident path.

This gives every one involved an opportunity to test the waters, so to speak.

DOn't want to hijack the oiginal post, but K1 implies fiance/fiancee; the waters have been tested or presumed tested; the government can't and should not be hand holding people. DOS can only approve or not based on the presented petition and its supporting documentation. People (us) are supposed to be the first line of filtering against fraud. Yes, scams will be still happen, can't be avoided. Ultimately, there are inherent challenges and risks involved in a cross-cultural, international relationship and each one of us has accepted that (or should accept that), end up scammed is one of those risks. Not blaming the OP at all. Some scam artists are very very good. The only one who can decide direction at this point is the OP, much advice has been given and he know has to weigh his options and proceed.

TO balance things a bit, just a couple of days ago I was reading a post here of a newly immigrant who was 'scammed' by her US husband (and this is not the only one I've read here); not as prevalent? Maybe, the posts here are only a small sample of the entire universe of K-1s, CR-1 that happen every day; so it goes both ways. SHe is returning to her country and to re-tart her life. That is the only sane and healthy thing to do.

And same applies to the OP here, if the evidence is that strong, part ways, don't waste a minute and re-start your life anew without looking back.

[verysadguy 170]

DOn't want to hijack the oiginal post, but K1 implies fiance/fiancee; the waters have been tested or presumed tested; the government can't and should not be hand holding people. DOS can only approve or not based on the presented petition and its supporting documentation. People (us) are supposed to be the first line of filtering against fraud. Yes, scams will be still happen, can't be avoided. Ultimately, there are inherent challenges and risks involved in a cross-cultural, international relationship and each one of us has accepted that (or should accept that), end up scammed is one of those risks. Not blaming the OP at all. Some scam artists are very very good. The only one who can decide direction at this point is the OP, much advice has been given and he know has to weigh his options and proceed.

TO balance things a bit, just a couple of days ago I was reading a post here of a newly immigrant who was 'scammed' by her US husband (and this is not the only one I've read here); not as prevalent? Maybe, the posts here are only a small sample of the entire universe of K-1s, CR-1 that happen every day; so it goes both ways. SHe is returning to her country and to re-tart her life. That is the only sane and healthy thing to do.

And same applies to the OP here, if the evidence is that strong, part ways, don't waste a minute and re-start your life anew without looking back.

Many people say that...break away and start over...

Unfortunately, like me there are lawsuits, children to care for, custody, etc. that linger and don't allow the innocent party to break free. That is the sadness of these scams. USCIS and ICE should work quicker and more deliberately to remove these scammers and con-artists. They ruin the fabric and culture of the USA. It is disgusting what some of these desperate people will do. And often they take away jobs from honest, tax-paying US Citizens.

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DOn't want to hijack the oiginal post, but K1 implies fiance/fiancee; the waters have been tested or presumed tested; the government can't and should not be hand holding people. DOS can only approve or not based on the presented petition and its supporting documentation. People (us) are supposed to be the first line of filtering against fraud. Yes, scams will be still happen, can't be avoided. Ultimately, there are inherent challenges and risks involved in a cross-cultural, international relationship and each one of us has accepted that (or should accept that), end up scammed is one of those risks. Not blaming the OP at all. Some scam artists are very very good. The only one who can decide direction at this point is the OP, much advice has been given and he know has to weigh his options and proceed.

TO balance things a bit, just a couple of days ago I was reading a post here of a newly immigrant who was 'scammed' by her US husband (and this is not the only one I've read here); not as prevalent? Maybe, the posts here are only a small sample of the entire universe of K-1s, CR-1 that happen every day; so it goes both ways. SHe is returning to her country and to re-tart her life. That is the only sane and healthy thing to do.

And same applies to the OP here, if the evidence is that strong, part ways, don't waste a minute and re-start your life anew without looking back.

You're missing the whole point and I don't even have to read your whole reply.

USCs are mostly on vacation mode staying in hoitels and being waited on hadn and foot whiel they spend the 5 hours (wild exxageration) with their intended. Not all USC have teh benefit that I have of "living" with my Fiancee in my house in a foreign country.

How do you explain living in American to some villager tribesperson of they haven't been here before?

It si not just my idea, many others on VJ share the same sentiments and it has nothing to do with sampling the goods on a foreign soil first. They will be living in the US and that's where the trial should occur.

There was a thread recently of an Aussie that is getting bent out of shape saying stuff like USCs are rude, he can't get a job, we speak funny, our economy sucks and we are liars too. If Mr. Aussie had bothered (Australia has VWP right) to visit the US and study first hand then maybe he wouldn't have migrated.

It's selfish not to allow the other actor to see where they will be living in.

[Shiobhan 235]

Sorry for your plight, but I would advise U to send whatever proofs to ICE & USCIS then be done with it move on and file

for a divorce, this woman if your side is on the up & up is a scammer also her family.......good riddance...if U try to

make up with her she'll use U a few more yrs then dump U and file for Joe in the Phillipines so she can be in his arms.

Not being mean bur its just too many of these online meetings that turns out to be scammers, at times even the holiday romances R.

[prettyme307 0]

I'm just going to throw this out for you because it is too easy.Go fine another woman let the fingers do the walking and stop dwelling on the scant you are wasting your time turn her in and get a life. life is to short to waste and there is too many way too many and many countries to pick from and it all taste the same lol.Oh well on that note enjoy all the beautiful laties and grow some balls.

[John and Ann 10]

I am so sorry for you situation....I've been there...I do know. And the best thing to do is get it over with. Even having to give up on someone you love, means you'll be better off in a very short run...Its pretty clear as soon as she is legally able to bring her Boyfriend here herself, she will.

I've been DIV 4 times; 2 of them wanted to get remarried? Two for being unfaithful, two went to rehad twice each!!

And when/if someones says "oh you should have known."....blah blah blah...just like this woman, in any culture and country, Women will lie lie lie....That is all she did to you from the very beginning. So don't feel alone, and your not the only one this has ever happen to. Of most of the friends and relatives I've known in my lifetime, its usually been the woman cheating....they can do it with a straight face, lie to your face, walk away and do it again and again.

Like in "THE MASK" movie.....she is always looking for the BBD...thats the bigger better deal.....when they someday realize they had it once and let it go....don't take them back either; if they aren't mature enough to be faithful and a good wife...You'll find one when you get rid of this one....!! Dont worry...It will pass.

Edited August 27, 2012 by John and Ann

[John and Ann 10]

agree.

Sure. I was married to my high school sweet heart for 8 years....she was unfaithful...We owned 2 homes, 2 vehicles and had 2 children together....10 months later, she wanted to get remarried.....My sister married her husband after 3 weeks, and after 27 years of marriage and 7 children and several grandchildren later...they are still happily married, and both are very devote Catholics. Either you keep your vows or you don't.

[OnMyWayID 1,489]

You're missing the whole point and I don't even have to read your whole reply.

USCs are mostly on vacation mode staying in hoitels and being waited on hadn and foot whiel they spend the 5 hours (wild exxageration) with their intended. Not all USC have teh benefit that I have of "living" with my Fiancee in my house in a foreign country.

How do you explain living in American to some villager tribesperson of they haven't been here before?

It si not just my idea, many others on VJ share the same sentiments and it has nothing to do with sampling the goods on a foreign soil first. They will be living in the US and that's where the trial should occur.

There was a thread recently of an Aussie that is getting bent out of shape saying stuff like USCs are rude, he can't get a job, we speak funny, our economy sucks and we are liars too. If Mr. Aussie had bothered (Australia has VWP right) to visit the US and study first hand then maybe he wouldn't have migrated.

It's selfish not to allow the other actor to see where they will be living in.

So apply that to this case.. She was already telling her family she was unhappy and they were telling her to hang on another 2-3 years to the next step.. I don't think another 90 days for the K-1 would have stopped her.

on topic... OP, You know exactly what you are dealing with here: A woman who does not love you that is willing to go as far as marrying someone she does not want to be with and living away from the one she does love for multiple years. Her entire support system is aware and even pushing her along. Where do you think the line ends with what they are willing to do if they think you are going to upset their plans? They will investigate all possible options and take any action to increase their chances with zero regard as to the consequences for you. Your actions (or in-actions) to date suggest that you are still vulnerable to manipulation and wishful thinking (no insult intended, everyone has been there).

The advice others have said is your best route: Report what you have to ICE/USCIS (even if it is just for future CYA), hide what assets you can, file divorce, and if you can get away from her or offer a plane ticket back to her boyfriend. Don't wait or the mountain to fall on you before you act.

Edited August 28, 2012 by OnMyWayID

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So apply that to this case.. She was already telling her family she was unhappy and they were telling her to hang on another 2-3 years to the next step.. I don't think another 90 days for the K-1 would have stopped her.

on topic... OP, You know exactly what you are dealing with here: A woman who does not love you that is willing to go as far as marrying someone she does not want to be with and living away from the one she does love for multiple years. Her entire support system is aware and even pushing her along. Where do you think the line ends with what they are willing to do if they think you are going to upset their plans? They will investigate all possible options and take any action to increase their chances with zero regard as to the consequences for you. Your actions (or in-actions) to date suggest that you are still vulnerable to manipulation and wishful thinking (no insult intended, everyone has been there).

The advice others have said is your best route: Report what you have to ICE/USCIS (even if it is just for future CYA), hide what assets you can, file divorce, and if you can get away from her or offer a plane ticket back to her boyfriend. Don't wait or the mountain to fall on you before you act.

Yes it would have. Read this...

After a few months, I discovered a secret Facebook profile she had opened...

[Darnell 8,478]

Darnell,

This case sounds suspiciously similar to my case. Weird.

I've submitted a mountain of evidence and received zero feedback from USCIS or ICE. Yet my wife filed VAWA and get an EAD by providing USCIS with a multitude of lies and using a non-profit religious group. Let the lover beware. Women will do anything, and I mean ANYTHING to come to the USA. It is a disgusting abuse of the immigration system.

I'm convinced things fell on the floor, with ICE, with yer case, based on the long q/a you and I have had in your other thread.

[M_&_R 77]

FB can be set private, ofcourse if there is a subpeona issued then it i legal, it wasn't implied if and when the profile was set private or not. Even in what way OP obtains the chat logs, if and when his wife is really doing anything, it doesn't make sense for the OP's wife to give the OP the log in. Without subpeona, whatever he have acquired is done in an illegal way. But, i am not here to say I am right, it is best to seek advice from people who really can help him. My point is, it always is best to make moves in the right way than be sorry. And yes you are right, th OP should make an attempt, nobody here says don't...just do it in a way that will not add more to the problem there is now.

Not if she's doing it on his PC.

M