7 Birthers Speaking At The Republican Convention

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Janine Turner is HOT!

I'll bet she sleeps naked.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Good, we're getting somewhere. Now make the assumptions much rosier than what the current baseline is - i.e. assume higher growth rates, lower sustained unemployment rates, etc. - and Ryan's budget even with those pie-in-the-sky assumptions still doesn't balance for the next three decades. Imagine what it would do in the real world.

The alternate scenario assumes current policy remains in effect, as opposed to current law. For instance, it assumes the AMT threshold will be adjusted upward, and doctors and hospitals will be reimbursed at current rates, etc. It is not the Ryan budget.

CBO’s baseline projections are heavily influenced by

changes in tax and spending policies that are embodied in

current law—changes that in some cases represent a

significant departure from recent policies. As a result,

those projections show much higher revenues and lower

outlays than would occur if the lower tax rates now in

effect were extended and if provisions constraining future

spending were not implemented. To illustrate the budgetary

consequences of maintaining some tax and spending

policies that have recently been in effect, CBO developed

projections under an “alternative fiscal scenario.” That

scenario incorporates the following assumptions:

 Expiring tax provisions (other than the payroll tax

reduction) are extended;

 The AMT is indexed for inflation after 2011;

 Medicare’s payment rates for physicians’ services are

held constant at their current level (rather than

dropping by 27 percent in March 2012 and more

thereafter, as scheduled under current law); and

 The automatic spending reductions required by the

Budget Control Act in the absence of legislation

reported by the Joint Select Committee on Deficit

Reduction do not take effect (thereby leaving in place

the discretionary caps established by the act, which

would otherwise be subject to those reductions).

Edited August 25, 2012 by The Patriot

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

The alternate scenario assumes current policy remains in effect, as opposed to current law. For instance, it assumes the AMT threshold will be adjusted upward, and doctors and hospitals will be reimbursed at current rates, etc. It is not the Ryan budget.

I never said that this CBO graph showed the Ryan budget. It shows the baseline which is the "do nothing" scenario which would balance the budget by 2017. It shows the President's 2013 budget which would bring the budget in balance a year later and it shows the worst case scenario which is extending all the popular tax cut and spending items. Ryan's budget was evaluated separately by CBO and it found that based on Ryan's assumptions - rosy assumptions at that - it would not balance the budget until after 2040.

Edited August 25, 2012 by Mr. Big Dog

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Was there one and I missed it somehow?

Ok Bush was great because we did not have the apocalypse.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Janine Turner is HOT!

Agrreance !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

The do-nothing plan: now worth $7.1 trillion

That's a great plan. Raise taxes on the rich and cut payments to doctors...

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

That's a great plan. Raise taxes on the rich and cut payments to doctors...

Gets rid of the deficit. Congress can certainly raise payments to doctors but then that has to be paid for in order for the deficit to disappear.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Gets rid of the deficit. Congress can certainly raise payments to doctors but then that has to be paid for in order for the deficit to disappear.

Becuse you can't tax your way into prosperity. Increasing taxes never works. we have go to cut spending. We have got to stop the cradle to grave "govt is your nanny spending". We need to bring the military home. We need to cut taxes de-regulate and turn the economic engine that built this country loose.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Becuse you can't tax your way into prosperity. Increasing taxes never works. we have go to cut spending. We have got to stop the cradle to grave "govt is your nanny spending". We need to bring the military home. We need to cut taxes de-regulate and turn the economic engine that built this country loose.

Ah, the tax cut fairy. Right. We've been doing tax cuts for over a decade now and I don't see it working. What we need is sanity.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Ah, the tax cut fairy. Right. We've been doing tax cuts for over a decade now and I don't see it working. What we need is sanity.

Raising taxes to combat out of control wasteful spending is like telling a a diabetic to take more insulin so they can eat lots of ice cream and cake. Sooner or later you can't get enough insulin. How about we bring our troops home cut out wasteful entitlment programs like, FEMA Flood insurance- which subdises people to build nice homes at the beach then rebuild them every few years,, SNAP- a waste ridden govt handout that is so widely abused, bloated and misused it stinks, Stop paying farmers to not grow crops thru farms subsidies programs ... I could list 100 that are the cash cow pets of both parties.

If both sides could stop fighting about silly social issues and agree that our citizens need to be held responsible for their own path in life we could fix this mess.

Of course they don't want us to do that because we would then unite and throw all the bums out.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Ah, the tax cut fairy. Right. We've been doing tax cuts for over a decade now and I don't see it working. What we need is sanity.

How about both parties do this since both are scared to cut programs that affect their base.

We pick 2 wasteful programs from each side of the aisle.and then cut both at the same time.

Repub-Side---Failed war on Drugs--- Stop spending Billions on a program that does not work and get a workable policy that YES includes some legalization then hold people responsible for their actions.

Dem Side -- Stop the war on poverty that has wasted Trillions and created generation after generation of peopel who to them, Govt entitlement is a way of life. It has not stoped poverty and has created more misery. Instead give people ladders to climb out of poverty but they have to climb the ladder.

See we could go on and on

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Was there one and I missed it somehow?

No there was not. Does that make him good ? There was no Nuclear war on Bush's watch does that make him great ?

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

No there was not. Does that make him good? There was no Nuclear war on Bush's watch does that make him great?

It would have made him great if nuclear war was imminent and he averted it. That wasn't the case, however. Unlike the depression that was looming.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

It would have made him great if nuclear war was imminent and he averted it. That wasn't the case, however. Unlike the depression that was looming.

That is speculative.

I will however give you this Eva longoria will be speaking at the dem convention.... SWHWWWINGGGG!

[james&olya 1,121]

Becuse you can't tax your way into prosperity. Increasing taxes never works. we have go to cut spending.

That is what they said about Clinton's tax increases. You know what happened don't you? Record employment, a balanced budget, even paying down the debt. GWB took care of that problem in a hurry!

What you are unaware of or hoping nobody notices is that those at the very top of the economic ladder are doing fabulously well. If a portion of their good fortune were to be incorporated into the federal budget we could be a lot closer to prosperity than we are now! But you would rather continue spouting the tired, discredited trickle down BS hoping it will still convince people. The only ones that trickle down works for are the ones on top. Everyone else is getting trickled on! Or in some cases hosed!