is my fiance a fraud?

[LIFE'SJOURNEY 970]

Perhaps. It depends on the father. However, having a child in the USA does not give father any open door to a visa to come to the USA. I doubt it would come to that but I suppose it's possible for the father to obtain a court order for the mother to bring the child to Jamaica for a visit at some point. It's certainly possible for the mother to obtain a court order for child support. Without court orders though, there are no 'have to's" regarding dealing with the father.

Pushbrk, In you'll prefect world this maybe true, but in the non prefect world, that father may be a part of her nightmare life for the next 18 years.

I only telling it from my perspective,and you can tell from your perspective. Because I can guarantee you they are still communicating while you'll are telling her to run.

I have been to this show before.

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We were together in January 2011 (We met), May 2011 ,August 2011 and December 2011. All between 10-14 days. I only met a few of his family, his brother and his mother.

Thanks for answering.

My Fiancee would be ecstatic if I moved to the Philippines. Actually that is the plan once I retire in a few years, we're both 40+.

IMHO, for any of us this option to go live at our SO country should always be discussed.

Are you kidding me, this lady is in the middle of a crisis and all you have to add is fill in your timeline?

I agree. Not really a fan of timeline.

He has rights as a father, US and Jamaica have reciprocity rights toward custody and childsupport within some states in the US. I really doesn't matter where he lives he has rights as a father.

He has the father has done no know harm toward the child, the parents are at conflict, not child and parent.

As the parent of the child she may have to deal with him for the next 18 years, if ther was no child she could leave him in the wind and hve no follow up. Since there will be a child between the two, they will have to deal with each other.

Thank you thank you, I can not thank you enough for this wisdom.

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Pushbrk, In you'll prefect world this maybe true, but in the non prefect world, that father may be a part of her nightmare life for the next 18 years.

I only telling it from my perspective,and you can tell from your perspective. Because I can guarantee you they are still communicating while you'll are telling her to run.

I have been to this show before.

I didn't tell her to do anything at all. I'm a straight talker. No need to read anything extra into what I write. "Perhaps" is a word with meaning that leaves open the possibility that everything you think "might" happen, "could" happen. Perhaps you overreacted.

Do you see actual "have to's"? If so, what are they? Are they REALLY "have to's" or are they MAY "have to's"? Words have meaning.

Edited August 25, 2012 by pushbrk

[LIFE'SJOURNEY 970]

I didn't tell her to do anything at all. I'm a straight talker. No need to read anything extra into what I write. "Perhaps" is a word with meaning that leaves open the possibility that everything you think "might" happen, "could" happen. Perhaps you overreacted.

Do you see actual "have to's"? If so, what are they? Are they REALLY "have to's" or are they MAY "have to's"? Words have meaning.

Pushbrk the american is me would have agreed with you, but sine being in the Jmaican circle my etes have been opened and I have seen and heard it all.

A mother heartstring is something noone can control.

As I said i have seen this movie before.

[pushbrk 13,011]

Pushbrk the american is me would have agreed with you, but sine being in the Jmaican circle my etes have been opened and I have seen and heard it all.

A mother heartstring is something noone can control.

As I said i have seen this movie before.

You are predicting what might happen. Perhaps you are correct but perhaps you are not. I'm not arguing about what will or won't happen. I'm saying we don't know because there's not ONE way it HAS TO happen.

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Educate me,

Can't she just not list him on the birth certificate?

Can the courts actually reach out from another country and force a DNA swab of a child if she has cut off contact with the guy?

Seriously, I am curious. No need to scare a woman to death about a guy coming after her unless you KNOW for a fact that it is possible for him to do these things.

If you know these possibilities are a fact then prove it with references, don't just post to scare some person with 'what ifs'.

Frankly he hasn't sounded like someone who is can follow through with a detailed plan as it is.

Sera

[LIFE'SJOURNEY 970]

Well since we only wants to talk about the nice and good stuff, please delete my posts. When hard knocks are knocking at her door, she should come back and talk to you'll.

I will continue to say this every father have rights, regardless if you'll like it or not.

Her baby daddy may not care or Her baaby DAddy may care.

Edited August 25, 2012 by LIFE'SJOURNEY

[RICARDO4EVA2 194]

I am Caucasian, what does this mean? How they prey?

I asked based on all what was said. They prey on Caucasian women ... matter of face matter of fact - Americans as a whole. Many of them (travelers) see it as love... but two can play the game. There are many genuine man/women .. i'm one person and i know a few... they just have to be tested to prove themselves.

You're good though after lookin at your post.. just make sure wat you're doing is what you'd want for you.

[RICARDO4EVA2 194]

Below is a list of Foreign Reciprocating Countries.. Doesnt appear to contain Jamaica,,

http://travel.state....issues_582.html

Australia, Canada, Czech Republic, El Salvador, Finland, Hungary, Ireland, Israel, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Slovak Republic, Switzerland

The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

Cant find anything regarding children of a forreign parent born in the US, however there are laws governing children abducted from a parent abroad, but that doesnt apply since the child will hopefully be born in the USA.. Eitherway, it seems the "so called" father would have to pay all the fees to retain a US Lawyer and there doesnt seem to be much informaation available regarding a case like this where the father has no status in the US and the mother and child live in the USA,,

JAMAICA wouldn't be on there.- not yet .... I could have told you that ... look at the countries on the list they are FIRST & SECOND world listings...

[sera77 35]

Well since we only wants to talk about the nice and good stuff, please delete my posts. When hard knocks are knocking at her door, she should come back and talk to you'll.

I will continue to say this every father have rights, regardless if you'll like it or not.

Her baby daddy may not care or Her baaby DAddy may care.

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All I'm asking is that if someone posts saying how the biological father is going to come after her legally, that the poster reference or give some sort of real substance of information as to how that can happen. That would be genuine advice and very useful, she can then be proactive in a real way. Posters should not create more confusion and drama, they should lessen the confusion and fear.

Sera

[Jamaican Luv 13]

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what timeline?

Go to your profile and u will see on the next hand side a timeline link. U can add when u filed paid fees etc. Its a good way to let other ppl see the process. Also add where you filed.

[Jamaican Luv 13]

I was there for like the last week in January and the first week in February, we met somewhere during that time, i honestly don't remember which month. Could be either. We didn't really called it a relationship until i got back home.

oh i forgot the other part of your question. the rest of his family live in another place or something, he call it the country.

So when was it decided to let him come on K-1 visa? Knowing he had applied for 6-7 times for visa... wouldn't you think that was suspicious from the get go? Just a lil confused on the story... where did you stay when u were with him etc?

[LIFE'SJOURNEY 970]

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All I'm asking is that if someone posts saying how the biological father is going to come after her legally, that the poster reference or give some sort of real substance of information as to how that can happen. That would be genuine advice and very useful, she can then be proactive in a real way. Posters should not create more confusion and drama, they should lessen the confusion and fear.

Sera

Sera, the same way a biological father establih paternity in any country, thru DNA. You'll only wants to hear one side stories, in this case the OP has more to think about than just canceling a K1, she is about to have this man's child.

Stop thinking Jamaica is this backward country, everything that can happen in the US, New Zeland, can happen in Jamaica. I am not creating any drama, the poster has created that on her own.

Being proactive is she can no longer just think about herself, she also has to think about what right for her child.

AsI have stated over and over I don't give relationship advise, I am giving her other things she might nees to consider. I leave the relaionship advise to VJ, you'll do such a good job at it.

Edited August 25, 2012 by LIFE'SJOURNEY

[LIFE'SJOURNEY 970]

So when was it decided to let him come on K-1 visa? Knowing he had applied for 6-7 times for visa... wouldn't you think that was suspicious from the get go? Just a lil confused on the story... where did you stay when u were with him etc?

This part of the story everyone seems to have over-looked. It doesn't matter now.

I would ask, where did she met a Kingston man, generally tourists aren't on that side of the island.

Edited August 25, 2012 by LIFE'SJOURNEY

[Ihavequestions 419]

OP, you may want to think about withdrawing the petition, giving no reason, then waiting to sort our your relationship.

There's no harm in taking your time.

You can always reapply later.