Pakistan disabled girl arrested for blasphemy

[Sofiyya 1,687]

Everyday I see muslims move to different parts of the world and start demanding that the laws and the society change for them or they resort to force/terrorism. Once they are in majority, that place is changed into 'Islamic republic of blah di blah'. Christians, hindus, budhists, jews etc etc have problems in their society but they do not proclaiming Jihad against others who do not follow the same religion. You cannot compare anything to Islam for what it is doing and you cannot justify it any way no matter how much you blame the world. The truth is that Islam preaches difference and superiority of Islam and conversion by any means. There is no peace and tolerance. What cr@p you are talking about??

I'm an Israeli. I can prove it in the history of Israel, and in the history of the modern Middle East and Asia. Everywhere you look on the globe, the stage was set for discord by European Christian colonialists who had no regard for the people and lands they exploited.

You know nothing about Islam; that's easy to tell from your ####### talk.

You don't even know your own history. Until your hands are clean, and Hindu hands are in no way clean, your criticism of others is as in no way morally superior.

This was a Law case, I would be hard pushed to think of non Islamic Countries which have a death due to Blasphemy law.

No countries are Islamic. There are about 57 predominantly Muslim countries. Tell us how many of those have blasphemy laws.

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There are about 57 predominantly Muslim countries. Tell us how many of those have blasphemy laws.

I never knew South America had two predominantly Muslim countries.

Wikipedia says Guyana is 57% Christian and only 7% Muslim (you better correct that).

They say Suriname is 20% Muslim.

Just put Guyana as 52% Muslim and Suriname as 63% Muslim. Sounds like legit numbers to me. Nobody will notice.

Organization of Islamic Cooperation Map

The Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC; Arabic: منظمة التعاون الاسلامي‎; French: Organisation de la Coopération Islamique (OCI))^{[a 1]} is an international organisationconsisting of 57 member states. The organisation attempts to be the collective voice of the Muslim world (Ummah) and attempts to safeguard the interests and ensure the progress and well-being of Muslims.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organisation_of_Islamic_Cooperation

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

I know all about the origins of the Brotherhood Of Islam which is the grandaddy of Al-Qaeda.

Again, you don't even know what you're talking about. It seems your opinions have been formed from a bunch of Islamophobia sites. If one wants to know the "truth" about Jews, it's a mistake to study Stormfront. Please find more reliable resources.

As far as the Muslim Brotherhood and al-Qaeda - although they were both influenced by Sayyid Qutb, the MB is not connected to AQ; in fact, they hate each other. Al-Qaeda's ideology is that its version of Islam overrules everything, including democracy. The Muslim Brotherhood accepts the legitimacy of civil society and democratic elections, and (after some members engaged in violence against Egyptian government repression in '50s and '60s) it renounced terror and violence back in the 1970's, in an agreement with Anwar Sadat.

For these reasons and more, the Muslim Brotherhood considers al-Qaeda to be terrorists, and has condemned the 9/11 attacks. In return, al-Qaeda considers the Muslim Brotherhood to be traitors and unbelievers, and has condemned the Brotherhood.

I now the tenants of many Islamic organizations are convert or kill.

Can you name these "many Islamic organizations" who believe this ?

I know quite well the oppression of Women and the brutal treatment of them in many many Islamic states. Islam a religion of Love and peace. Not hardly. Are there some good Muslims out there. I am sure they are, but when they stand up and become vocal enough to outweigh the majority who are not I will give it another look. Until then it is a racist misogynist dangerous religion that supports terrorism and oppression of woman around the globe. I wil laslo cavet that with saying, that if Chrstianity did not have government checks on it, you would probably see the same in many Christian nations.

I already posted a link to Muslim groups who have vocally denounced terror. There are plenty more who denounce the oppression of women, if you care to look.

In answer yo your Jew Christian question. Yes we have crazies also. Difference is that we have separation of church and state. We do not allow radical Christianity to make our laws. We vigorously investigate and prosecute any faith based radical organization that conspires to break the law. Lastly are radicals are pretty much universally hated and despised, many of yours are loved. Bin Laden was a like a rock star in many Islamic countries.

You are mis-using the term "radical," as it refers to people who recognize problems in their society and want to change that society. Civil rights activists were "radical;" so where women's liberation activists (and you just said that you did not support the oppression of women.) I believe you actually mean "extremists." And the U.S. has more than a few of them, including in politics.

Also, the U.S. still has a lot of legal statutes based on the Christian religion - marriage laws, laws against bigamy and polygamy, laws against certain homosexual practices, laws against prostitution, "blue laws" against the sale of certain items on Sundays, etc. Not all of these are federal laws, but they are based on Christian tenets. And Presidents are still sworn in on the Bible. So there's not as much "separation" as one might think.

Most Muslim countries also vigorously prosecute criminal organizations that violate their laws (even when they are "faith-based.")

Bin Laden is certainly not a "rock star" in "many" Islamic countries; most Muslims want nothing to do with al-Qaeda or their ideology. Bin Laden's death was marked with only minor protests in the Muslim world. Support for al Qaeda has significantly weakened around the world, even in their strongholds of Afghanistan and Pakistan.

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

As a caveat I will lays, that you being a Palestinian I can understand what has been done to your people. However having idiots like Arafat killing and murdering in the name of Palestine has not helped your cause.

I also question why you Palestine's are not more pissed at Jordan than Israel. They took most of your land.

I am not Palestinian; I am American, born and raised.

Arafat was actually a moderate. He formally recognized the existence of Israel back in the early 1990s, in accordance with the borders that are internationally recognized. As far as "killing and murdering;" well, I don't know why you expect that people under an illegal, belligerent military occupation do not have the right to fight back against those oppressors. However, international law accords them that right. And far more Palestinian civilians have been murdered in the conflict than Israeli civilians.

Historical Palestine is not part of the territory now known as Jordan. Perhaps you are confusing "Palestine" with the "British Mandate for Palestine" ? They are two different things. I already went through this on the board so I will just quote my previous reply:

You are both confusing "Palestine" with the "British Mandate for Palestine." These terms are not interchangeable, and they don't mean the same thing.

"Palestine" is the historical term for the specific geographic area which was well-known to the world as Palestine for millennia. This area did not include present-day Jordan. The "British Mandate for Palestine" was an administrative term that the British used after the fall of the Ottoman Empire to denote Palestine as well as what is now Jordan.

Just have a look at the old maps - none of them indicate present-day Jordan as part of Palestine:

Circa 1490

1650

1700

1845

1867

1897

Jordanians never expelled Palestinians from their homes in Palestine, or appropriated their property.

The reason there are so many Palestinians in Jordan today is because they are families who were driven from their homes in Palestine by Zionist militias and terror gangs during the creation of Israel, and refused their right to return to their homes.

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

Amen confused. I consider myself of the Christian faith and I denounce those whop practice religious bigotry and hatred. Christianity was used to reenforce slavery, keep women suppressed, and now it is being used to persecute gays.

what Christianity is not used for is a world wide jihad against all non-believers and to support terrorism. Not in mass anyway, and not since the crusades.

Again, what is this "world-wide jihad" that you speak of ? Do you really believe that 2 billion+ Muslims are actually intent on wiping out "non-believers" or supporting terror against you ?

[Sofiyya 1,687]

Jordanians never expelled Palestinians from their homes in Palestine, or appropriated their property.

My family lost our homes, businesses and properties in Haifa in April 1948, but, not to the Jordanians.

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Jordanians never expelled Palestinians from their homes in Palestine, or appropriated their property.

My family lost our homes, businesses and properties in Haifa in April 1948, but, not to the Jordanians.

64 years ago? Time has not healed this wound?

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Jordanians never expelled Palestinians from their homes in Palestine, or appropriated their property.

My family lost our homes, businesses and properties in Haifa in April 1948, but, not to the Jordanians.

If you do not realize, let me refresh your memory (no, I don't need to be a Phd to know this) Islam is a relatively new religion and consists of converts only. Where ever they have spread, they have caused division and war. I do not know what muslims mean by their homes taken away because every place they call theirs belonged to someone else and was snatched away by the 'so called' peaceful & tolerant muslims. If you say that is how every religion has acted in the past, well, they also got over it 500-1000 years ago so that excuse does not count anymore.

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

64 years ago? Time has not healed this wound?

The expulsions have continued non-stop since then.

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Also, I lost half of my country to Muslims when it was divided into 3 by the newest members of the society that gave them a place to call home. Get over it. First you take some and then they take it back.

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

If you do not realize, let me refresh your memory (no, I don't need to be a Phd to know this) Islam is a relatively new religion and consists of converts only. Where ever they have spread, they have caused division and war. I do not know what muslims mean by their homes taken away because every place they call theirs belonged to someone else and was snatched away by the 'so called' peaceful & tolerant muslims. If you say that is how every religion has acted in the past, well, they also got over it 500-1000 years ago so that excuse does not count anymore.

All Muslims are converts who "snatched away" people's homes ?

You are, indeed, confused.

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All Muslims are converts who "snatched away" people's homes ?

You are, indeed, confused.

Standard answer by WOM when she has no answer

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Atleast, even she cannot disagree with the rest of my post

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

Also, I lost half of my country to Muslims when it was divided into 3 by the newest members of the society that gave them a place to call home. Get over it. First you take some and then they take it back.

"Half" your country ? Really ? One glance at the map shows this to be obviously false. However, Palestinians have lost 78% of their country and you expect them to accept it.

Also, the Muslims of what are now Pakistan and Bangladesh were natives of the former British India; they are not "new members of the society."

Standard answer by WOM when she has no answer

Your posts are nonsense; they don't deserve much more than a ROFL.

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Still converts! There is a difference between new and newest members WOM. There is no point diverting attention to 'how much half is half and if it is less than 50% it is ok but 78% is not.

Explain the peaceful and tolerant theory behind the passion for dividing the lands and wars though because that you have not been able to deny.