Pregnant Teen Denied Both Chemo and Abortion Dies

[Xanax 349]

How can this even be argued? It is beyond me.

The mother was evidently sick (noted by the fact she died days later). Though one may question health care in the DR I am sure medical professionals knew the seriousness of her condition.

With this knowledge there was 2 choices, try to save the mother and hope for the child or have both die. A 9 WEEK FETUS CANNOT LIVE WITHOUT IT'S MOTHER. Unless the child was almost full term, which it wasn't it cannot live without it's mother! This seems like a concept which is escaping some on this board and clearly in the DR.

So again. Possibly kill one or kill both on principle...

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Mostly men, oddly enough.

[Obama 2012 1,714]

I wonder what the father to be had to say.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

I wonder what the father to be had to say.

Does it matter? Whether he sided with the woman or the fetus, the government made the decision for them.

[JohnR! 5,495]

I wonder what the father to be had to say.

They didn't even let the mother make a decision, so chances they would listen to the father are slim to none.

[Xanax 349]

I wonder what the father to be had to say.

He was NEVER going to be a father if the mother was near death to the point where she would die before the fetus was 28 weeks.

If she had time and could have carried the baby longer this may have made more sense.

[Teddy B 17,252]

Only in a world that values one human life more than another.

How does giving this choice to the Mother equate to valuing one life over another?

[rocks 494]

He was NEVER going to be a father if the mother was near death to the point where she would die before the fetus was 28 weeks.

If she had time and could have carried the baby longer this may have made more sense.

All that being pregnant would do for her at this point is put more strain on her body and make her chance of survival smaller.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

How does giving this choice to the Mother equate to valuing one life over another?

It doesn't. The Patriot is a big government kind of guy when it comes to a woman's uterus.

[^_^ 5,021]

Mostly men, oddly enough.

One must be removed from a situation to be able to properly examine it, without passion or bias.

For example, imagine we're in the heydays of the the trans-Atlantic slave trade and we wish to determine the economic value of this form of commercial activity. Who would you ask?

The slave trader? He has every reason in the world to exaggerate the productivity of the slave. The slave owner? He has every reason in the world to paper over the economic efficiencies of slave ownership - after all, he does not wish to lose the privilege! Or would you ask the slave? The slave has every reason to demonize his/her owner and resort to emotional pablum in the form of appeals to fairness and liberty.

No, you would ask someone who has no stake in the trade at all.

The same is true for abortion. You can't ask women. You can't even ask men who have children or wives. You have to ask... gay men and straight men too ugly to procreate or marry.

[Teddy B 17,252]

It doesn't. The Patriot is a big government kind of guy when it comes to a woman's uterus.

So he doesn't mind the gov't telling a woman what she can and cannot do with her body, but if they try to take his guns away all bets are off? Have I got that right?

[Penny Lane 8,159]

The same is true for abortion. You can't ask women. You can't even ask men who have children or wives. You have to ask... gay men and straight men too ugly to procreate or marry.

You can ask whoever you'd like. The opinions, however, of random men I'll never meet don't matter to me. They shouldn't get to decide what I do or don't do with my own body. My reproductive organs = my choice.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

So he doesn't mind the gov't telling a woman what she can and cannot do with her body, but if they try to take his guns away all bets are off? Have I got that right?

Yes.

[rocks 494]

Once you've seen people die of cancer, you'll change your mind.

[JohnR! 5,495]

The same is true for abortion. You can't ask women. You can't even ask men who have children or wives. You have to ask... gay men and straight men too ugly to procreate or marry.

:rofl:

On a serious note, I believe nobody - man or woman - is in favor of abortion. With few exceptions, I believe everyone is against it, as everyone is against a mastectomy, hysterectomy or any other type of mutilation. There are times however, when these are the only options, no matter how hard one tries to find an alternative solution.

I don't believe for a second any woman would take lightly on having an abortion. If only those ready to condemn them put the same amount of energy and effort before passing their uneducated judgment on them...