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Either way, you kill the Mother then you kill the now fetus (at 9 weeks embryo becomes fetus). So it makes WAY more sense to TRY to save the Mother.

Tragic isn't it that on order to protect the fetus, both mother and child he to die.

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I wonder how, exactly, this is "pro life".

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Either way, you kill the Mother then you kill the now fetus (at 9 weeks embryo becomes fetus). So it makes WAY more sense to TRY to save the Mother.

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It doesn't. The Patriot is a big government kind of guy when it comes to a woman's uterus.

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Tragic isn't it that on order to protect the fetus, both mother and child he to die.

Tragic that this poor woman didn't even get a choice as to how to proceed. Her body and her life decisions were made by her government.

Scary, scary thought.

It amazes me that people are so against "big government" and want the government to stay out of their personal lives, but then support laws that ban personal life decisions.

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This is just backwards 3rd world thinking.

Before you get on me for my views, my wife is from Costa Rica and they have similar nonsensical laws there. For example, they don't teach about birth control in schools (due to the religion). And every other 16 year old is pushing a baby carriage down Central Avenue in the capital.

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Tragic that this poor woman didn't even get a choice as to how to proceed. Her body and her life decisions were made by her government.

Scary, scary thought.

It amazes me that people are so against "big government" and want the government to stay out of their personal lives, but then support laws that ban personal life decisions.

They want government out of their lives, not out of the lives of others....

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They want government out of their lives, not out of the lives of others....

Oh that's right, how could I forget? :)

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It actually disgust me that anyone feels they have a right to force a woman into having a child they do not want. And on top of that using the excuse that it is gods will... I find it disgusting. Didn't god give us free will? Aren't we allowed to use that free will?

For those that say it's gods will, you don't have to make an abortion, it's your choice your opinion you have a right to that opinion for YOURSELF. But you do NOT have the right to FORCE that OPINION onto others.

Free will doesn't give you the right to do anything you want.

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Free will doesn't give you the right to do anything you want.

No, but it should give you the right to make your own decisions when it comes to your health and your life.

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No, but it should give you the right to make your own decisions when it comes to your health and your life.

The life of a fetus is just as important.

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The life of a fetus is just as important.

In this case, the life of the fetus was determined to be MORE important.

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The life of an actual human being always takes precedent over that of a possible human being. Unless she chooses otherwise. It was pure, cold, calculated murder.


USCIS [*] 22 Nov. 2011 - I-129 package sent; [*] 25 Nov. 2011 - Package delivered; [*] 25 Nov. 2011 - NOA1/petition received and routed to the California Service Center; [*] 30 Nov. 2011 - Touched/confirmation though text message and email; [*] 03 Dec. 2011 - Hard copy received; [*]24 April 2012 - NOA2 (no RFEs)/text message/email/USCIS account updated; [*] 27 April 2012 - NOA2 hard copy received.

NVC [*] 14 May 2012 - Petition received by NVC ; [*] 16 May 2012 - Petition left NVC.

EMBASSY [*] 18 May 2012 - Petition arrived at the US Embassy in Bucharest; [*] 22 May 2012 - Package 3 received; [*] 24 May 2012 - Package sent to the consulate, interview date set; [*] 14 June 2012 - Interview date, approved.

POE [*] 04 July 2012 - Minneapolis/St.Paul. [*] 16 September 2012 - Wedding Day!

AOS/EAD/AP [*] 04 February 2013 - AOS/EAD/AP package sent; [*] 07 February 2013 - AOS/EAD/AP package delivered; [*] 12 February 2013 - NOA1 text messages/emails; [*] 16 February 2013 - NOA1 received in the regular mail; [*] 28 February 2013 - Biometrics letter received (appointment date, March 8th); [*] 04 March 2013 - Biometrics walk-in completed (9 out of 10 fingerprints taken, pinky would not give in); [*] 04 April 2013 - EAD/AP card approved; [*] 11 April 2013 - Combo card sent/tracking number obtained; [*] 15 April 2013 - Card delivered.

[*] 15 May 2013 - Moved from MN to LA; [*] 17 May 2013 - Applied for a new SS card/filed an AR-11 online (unsuccessfully), therefore called and spoke to a Tier 2 and changed the address; [*] 22 May 2013 - Address updated on My Case Status (finally can see the case numbers online); [*] 28 May 2013 - Letter received in the mail confirming the change of address; [*] 31 July 2013 - Went to Romania; [*] 12 September 2013 - returned to the US using the AP, POE Houston, everything went smoothly; [*] 20 September 2013 - Spoke to a Tier2 and put in a service request; [*] 23 September 2013 - Got "Possible Interview Waiver" letter (originally sent on August, 29th to my old address, returned and re-routed to my current address); [*] 1 October 2013 - Started a new job.

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Trying to get the word out about our struggles:

http://voices.yahoo.com/almost-legal-citizen-but-not-quite-12155565.html?cat=9

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The life of a fetus is just as important.

No, it wasn't. Consciousness beats lack of self awareness. Reality beats possibility.

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USCIS [*] 22 Nov. 2011 - I-129 package sent; [*] 25 Nov. 2011 - Package delivered; [*] 25 Nov. 2011 - NOA1/petition received and routed to the California Service Center; [*] 30 Nov. 2011 - Touched/confirmation though text message and email; [*] 03 Dec. 2011 - Hard copy received; [*]24 April 2012 - NOA2 (no RFEs)/text message/email/USCIS account updated; [*] 27 April 2012 - NOA2 hard copy received.

NVC [*] 14 May 2012 - Petition received by NVC ; [*] 16 May 2012 - Petition left NVC.

EMBASSY [*] 18 May 2012 - Petition arrived at the US Embassy in Bucharest; [*] 22 May 2012 - Package 3 received; [*] 24 May 2012 - Package sent to the consulate, interview date set; [*] 14 June 2012 - Interview date, approved.

POE [*] 04 July 2012 - Minneapolis/St.Paul. [*] 16 September 2012 - Wedding Day!

AOS/EAD/AP [*] 04 February 2013 - AOS/EAD/AP package sent; [*] 07 February 2013 - AOS/EAD/AP package delivered; [*] 12 February 2013 - NOA1 text messages/emails; [*] 16 February 2013 - NOA1 received in the regular mail; [*] 28 February 2013 - Biometrics letter received (appointment date, March 8th); [*] 04 March 2013 - Biometrics walk-in completed (9 out of 10 fingerprints taken, pinky would not give in); [*] 04 April 2013 - EAD/AP card approved; [*] 11 April 2013 - Combo card sent/tracking number obtained; [*] 15 April 2013 - Card delivered.

[*] 15 May 2013 - Moved from MN to LA; [*] 17 May 2013 - Applied for a new SS card/filed an AR-11 online (unsuccessfully), therefore called and spoke to a Tier 2 and changed the address; [*] 22 May 2013 - Address updated on My Case Status (finally can see the case numbers online); [*] 28 May 2013 - Letter received in the mail confirming the change of address; [*] 31 July 2013 - Went to Romania; [*] 12 September 2013 - returned to the US using the AP, POE Houston, everything went smoothly; [*] 20 September 2013 - Spoke to a Tier2 and put in a service request; [*] 23 September 2013 - Got "Possible Interview Waiver" letter (originally sent on August, 29th to my old address, returned and re-routed to my current address); [*] 1 October 2013 - Started a new job.

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Trying to get the word out about our struggles:

http://voices.yahoo.com/almost-legal-citizen-but-not-quite-12155565.html?cat=9

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Penny Lane Grand Master

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By all means, if a pregnant woman with serious health concerns decides that her fetus is more important than her life and is willing to make that potential sacrifice, all the power to her. However, it shouldn't be a LAW that that sacrifice be made.

Let a woman choose what to do with her life and HER body. Government shouldn't be doing it.

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