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[mishka1 17]

Hello VJ members,

Today was our interview date; my fiancée went with her 11 year old daughter. She was not approved on the spot. The CO asked her about my previous unlucky marriages, and she answered she is aware of all my previous marriages, two of those were on fiancée petition, but they were not able to cope with USA way of living then they return back home. Nothing I could keep it from happening.

The Co took the passport of my fiancée and her daughter, recent photos together that were taken during our vacation ( June –July), all DS forms and passport photos, I-134 and documentation, another supporting documents of our going relation, and all other requested documents plus the medical examination envelopes.

She was told she will get a decision after a week. SHE WAS NOT GIVEN ANY NOTE. She and I are very upset especially after that long waiting period.

The Question is if they are going to deny the visa for her and her daughter, why they took all of her documents and passports.

I cannot think at the moment, I need your thoughts and any of the VJ community members opinion if any had/have similar circumstance. Thanks for your Help

[baron555 934]

Hello VJ members,

Today was our interview date; my fiancée went with her 11 year old daughter. She was not approved on the spot. The CO asked her about my previous unlucky marriages, and she answered she is aware of all my previous marriages, two of those were on fiancée petition, but they were not able to cope with USA way of living then they return back home. Nothing I could keep it from happening.

The Co took the passport of my fiancée and her daughter, recent photos together that were taken during our vacation ( June –July), all DS forms and passport photos, I-134 and documentation, another supporting documents of our going relation, and all other requested documents plus the medical examination envelopes.

She was told she will get a decision after a week. SHE WAS NOT GIVEN ANY NOTE. She and I are very upset especially after that long waiting period.

The Question is if they are going to deny the visa for her and her daughter, why they took all of her documents and passports.

I cannot think at the moment, I need your thoughts and any of the VJ community members opinion if any had/have similar circumstance. Thanks for your Help

I've asked the Mods to move this to the RUB regional forum since you are asking how the Moscow Embassy processes visas with your specific circumstances.

Since they kept the passports and didn't give her a 221g form, I would say they are merely doing additional AP to verify (my speculation) relative to those other K-1 marriages. Chances are very good that they'll be approved.

Was your fiance asked about what happened to those previous spouses?....ie, That they weren't able to cope with moving to the US?

What have you done differently with this fiance to prevent the same from happening once again?

[Krikit 1,165]

Moving from K-1 Process to RUB regional forum.

[mishka1 17]

I've asked the Mods to move this to the RUB regional forum since you are asking how the Moscow Embassy processes visas with your specific circumstances.

Since they kept the passports and didn't give her a 221g form, I would say they are merely doing additional AP to verify (my speculation) relative to those other K-1 marriages. Chances are very good that they'll be approved.

Was your fiance asked about what happened to those previous spouses?....ie, That they weren't able to cope with moving to the US?

What have you done differently with this fiance to prevent the same from happening once again?

Hello. Thank you for your prompt response, to answer your question, No, the CO was checking I guess to see if my fiancée knew about my previous K1 petition. To answer your second question, I did not do anything different, one of those marriages the ex-wife returned back home (difficulty of coping with USA life), the other, did not work out after four years. These things happened all time, even with couples after they have grown children together. My case is not odd one.

Thank you for your encouragement, actually they got all the other documents also, plus the visa application forms, my I-134 and supporting documentation but they did not take my Employer letter, may be because I provided my last two pay stubs (June), bank documents, all the 2012 date stamped photos , and the Two passport photos. AND NO she was not given any form. (i.e. 221g form or other).

The CO was very pleased with the 11 year daughter answer to his question

[baron555 934]

Hello. Thank you for your prompt response, to answer your question, No, the CO was checking I guess to see if my fiancée knew about my previous K1 petition. To answer your second question, I did not do anything different, one of those marriages the ex-wife returned back home (difficulty of coping with USA life), the other, did not work out after four years. These things happened all time, even with couples after they have grown children together. My case is not odd one.

Thank you for your encouragement, actually they got all the other documents also, plus the visa application forms, my I-134 and supporting documentation but they did not take my Employer letter, may be because I provided my last two pay stubs (June), bank documents, all the 2012 date stamped photos , and the Two passport photos. AND NO she was not given any form. (i.e. 221g form or other).

The CO was very pleased with the 11 year daughter answer to his question

I believe you'll be fine. Them taking the passports is a good thing. One suggestion is for you to email the Embassy, referencing the case number and mentioning the interview, and asking the Embassy if there is any information that you can provide to allow them to complete their decision. I'd keep it as simple as that.

My wife and son's passports were also taken after their interview and she was given a 221g asking for more relationship evidence prior to being told they were approved. I emailed them tons more plus a letter outlining our relationship and how the evidence bore that out and were approved within two days.

Yes I would expect (and want) any CO to dig a little deeper just because of your past history, especially with two previous K-1 marriages that did not work. Nothing personal should be taken but I believe the norm and expectation is that the potential new couple has done everything they can and made the commitment to make the marriage last forever.

My comments about helping them adjust to life here are because we are having the same discussion amongst we RUBbers over on another thread in this forum. I'd welcome you to read that and offer comment. Life here in the US is vastly different, in many aspects (and vastly the same in others) than their life there. There is additional communication and preparation (in my opinion) that should be done in and addition to the normal relationship and getting to know you communications and that should be done before any decision to come to the US is made. Yes some can be totally freaked out over the changes.

Edited August 16, 2012 by baron555

[mishka1 17]

I believe you'll be fine. Them taking the passports is a good thing. One suggestion is for you to email the Embassy, referencing the case number and mentioning the interview, and asking the Embassy if there is any information that you can provide to allow them to complete their decision. I'd keep it as simple as that.

My wife and son's passports were also taken after their interview and she was given a 221g asking for more relationship evidence prior to being told they were approved. I emailed them tons more plus a letter outlining our relationship and how the evidence bore that out and were approved within two days.

Yes I would expect (and want) any CO to dig a little deeper just because of your past history, especially with two previous K-1 marriages that did not work. Nothing personal should be taken but I believe the norm and expectation is that the potential new couple has done everything they can and made the commitment to make the marriage last forever.

My comments about helping them adjust to life here are because we are having the same discussion amongst we RUBbers over on another thread in this forum. I'd welcome you to read that and offer comment. Life here in the US is vastly different, in many aspects (and vastly the same in others) than their life there. There is additional communication and preparation (in my opinion) that should be done in and addition to the normal relationship and getting to know you communications and that should be done before any decision to come to the US is made. Yes some can be totally freaked out over the changes.

May I call you Phil and friend, thank you for your response and I shall follow your suggestion by e-mailing the Embassy. The thing is, my fiancée was not given any form that requesting more relation evidences. They only hold on the date stamped photos during our (my Fiancée, her daughter and I) month vacation (June-July 2012), they did not elect to hold on hotel receipts, airfare itinerary, etc. I do not know if you read any of my previous posting, from the beginning, all my documents (10 pounds) that were submitted with the initial petition got lost, I got RFE, I submitted everything Again, after 60 days I got MY NOA2 In June 04, NVC was not able to find it, finally it was forwarded to US Embassy Moscow, by that time I was getting close to the 60 days mark from the date of the petition approval (since petition approval is only valid for 4 months), and per their instruction on the Embassy site they ask the petitioner to contact the Consoler if 60 days have been passed without getting Embassy notification, finally I got the Invitation on July 26.

Answering to your third paragraph, I agree absolutely with you that any COUPLES and I stress on COUPLES should have the commitment to make the marriage last forever, however, I have always have this commitment, but unfortunately we as human cannot control other human being desire to split. And as you know splitting in USA is not cheap…

As you know you have lived in USA all your life and we could see the rate of divorce among USC, although they tie the knot after living with each for years, but suddenly after having grown children they split, this incident does not happen with only fiancée/fiancé that are coming from overseas and been visited couple of times or more. My first fiancée did not cope with life in USA and returned back to her country, and the other came to USA to try to be a millionaire in a week, and I do not know where she is.

What I’m saying is it depends on the person who moved from oversea to USA if they want to live happy and in harmony, and not to come with a hidden agenda. I was unlucky person through my previous marriages; however I have not committed a crime by trying to be happy and have partner forever.

Thank you again Phil, for your soothing and hopeful words , and I hope and wish from God that your guess is right, this present petition is really got toll of me, however I love my fiancée and her daughter very much.

[baron555 934]

Thank you again Phil, for your soothing and hopeful words , and I hope and wish from God that your guess is right, this present petition is really got toll of me, however I love my fiancée and her daughter very much.

Based on what I've read over the last three years on this forum, you case doesn't sound like anything too unusual or any reason for concern.

There's a ton of good folk here on RUB and please stick around; your dance with immigration is really just beginning; as they will have their hand in your pocket for a few more rounds.

[mishka1 17]

Based on what I've read over the last three years on this forum, you case doesn't sound like anything too unusual or any reason for concern.

There's a ton of good folk here on RUB and please stick around; your dance with immigration is really just beginning; as they will have their hand in your pocket for a few more rounds.

Dear Phil, I’m going to stick around for sure, you stated in one of your kind responses “Yes I would expect (and want) any CO to dig a little deeper just because of your past history, especially with two previous K-1 marriages that did not work” Regarding digging in my past, and because of our new interaction/communication, I was ashamed to mention the following:

1- My first Fiancée (ex-wife) departure from the country was to judge arrest order (in short because of her jealousy, she had altercation with my next door neighbor, who pressed charges against her, she did not show for the hearing, the judge then issued an order to the sheriff of the city to arrest her) all those documents were submitted as support for my multiple submission waiver.

2- My Second Fiancée because of her lies, she emailed before our wedding a female friend of mine and coworker an e-mail that state “ I’m difficult to live with, etc. and once I make some money I will leave him” After my friends discovered her lies (after the wedding) my friend was very upset and wondered, if I'm difficult to live with why DID SHE MARRIED ME?, then apologized to me for her misjudgment on my charcter and forwarded all of those e-mails. Copies of those e-mails were also submitted with my waiver to show that the second marriage was not the ex-wife bona-fed objectives.

Because of those ex-wives behavior, I was about to loss my security clearance and my Job.

I’m an honest person who deals with people without any hidden Agenda

Thank you again for your support God bless

[slim 1,530]

Yep, what Phil said. You should be fine.

[mishka1 17]

Yep, what Phil said. You should be fine.

Thanks buddy for your comforting words, I just feel that my heart is bleeding of pain because of the long two days train journey that my fiancée and her 11 year daughter took to reach US Embassy-Moscow from their town. They were very joyfuel going and now they are very sad in their way back home. Specially the little one whom I reserved her school in my city ( Bloomington, IN). Well keep my hand crossed and wish for the best for our sake. It is a very bad to feel that I have been condemned or criminalized by the Embassy consular visa section due to my previous unsuccessful marriages, that separation was not due to fault on my part. Thank you again.

[mishka1 17]

Slim, sorry I forgot to add that my fiancée paid extra $20 for herself and her daughter for the vaccination certificate.

[mishka1 17]

Based on what I've read over the last three years on this forum, you case doesn't sound like anything too unusual or any reason for concern.

There's a ton of good folk here on RUB and please stick around; your dance with immigration is really just beginning; as they will have their hand in your pocket for a few more rounds.

Good morning Phil, To keep you updated, yesterday I e-mailed US Embassy-Moscow as simple as you suggested, today I received their response that states “The interviewing consular officer is still reviewing the case, no additional documents are needed"

What do you think? Thank you for your support

By the way after dust settled down we could meet in person, I’m living nearby in Bloomington, IN or if you are in my city for IU game, please contact me.

[baron555 934]

Good morning Phil, To keep you updated, yesterday I e-mailed US Embassy-Moscow as simple as you suggested, today I received their response that states “The interviewing consular officer is still reviewing the case, no additional documents are needed"

What do you think? Thank you for your support

By the way after dust settled down we could meet in person, I’m living nearby in Bloomington, IN or if you are in my city for IU game, please contact me.

I'd say that all signals are positive. I could wildly speculate but who knows what they are reviewing;;;;;there has only been once case reported here on VJ (not necessarily the majority of cases USCIS sees) where weird unknown AP delayed the visa issuance for a long amount of time (and it ended up due to a unique consequence that couldn't possibly occur again).

We're located next to Joliet, so yes chances are we could visit....Brad and Vika are down in Louisville (along with the new one and MIL). Slim and his wife are over in Cinci. Many of us on RUB have met each other; we're all good folks.....and very smart....to be marrying our young Russian hotties.

[mishka1 17]

I'd say that all signals are positive. I could wildly speculate but who knows what they are reviewing;;;;;there has only been once case reported here on VJ (not necessarily the majority of cases USCIS sees) where weird unknown AP delayed the visa issuance for a long amount of time (and it ended up due to a unique consequence that couldn't possibly occur again).

We're located next to Joliet, so yes chances are we could visit....Brad and Vika are down in Louisville (along with the new one and MIL). Slim and his wife are over in Cinci. Many of us on RUB have met each other; we're all good folks.....and very smart....to be marrying our young Russian hotties.

Hey Phil, thanks for your encouragement, I hope that they did not review my petition well before asking us to schedule our interview and they are reviewing our case after the interview, because the embassy received our petition from NVC very late and it was getting few days to the 60 days mark from the petition approval date. Fortunately all documents and police report (that took one month for my fiancée to receive) were ready. My fiancée told me that the consular officer holds on the fifteen vacations 2012 photos she showed him plus all the documents, forms, I-134 and supporting documents, etc.

It is great that you are having Slim and his wife for the weekend, and for sure it will be a pleasure to meet with you and your family and RUB community, Thank you again for your support, and shall keep you updated. Have a great weekend.

[mishka1 17]

I'd say that all signals are positive. I could wildly speculate but who knows what they are reviewing;;;;;there has only been once case reported here on VJ (not necessarily the majority of cases USCIS sees) where weird unknown AP delayed the visa issuance for a long amount of time (and it ended up due to a unique consequence that couldn't possibly occur again).

We're located next to Joliet, so yes chances are we could visit....Brad and Vika are down in Louisville (along with the new one and MIL). Slim and his wife are over in Cinci. Many of us on RUB have met each other; we're all good folks.....and very smart....to be marrying our young Russian hotties.

Dear Phil, Today with the help of God my fiancée and her daughter received their passports with the Visa, it was great relieve for us after my long tedious journey. I'm writing to thank you Phil and Slim for your support and comforting words. I shall communicate with you guys through your e-mails. Thanks again and God bless you all..... :dance: :dance: :dance: