Not the end of the world

[WaitingStill 24]

Well, my fellow VJ'ers, it happened.

My fiancee lives in Kiev and, because she was in Buenos Aires for nine months in 2000, she has to provide a police certificate from Argentina.

Today she called the Argentinian embassy in Kiev and was told that it takes a year. And she doesn't want to wait any more. We've already been through NOA1, NOA2, NVC....and she is stressed out. And so am I.

It doesnt help that when I turned on the news this morning the lead story was that children of illegal immigrants are lining up to register for their "amnesty" program.

I can't even say how horrible this is.

[X Factor 1,112]

Very tough. She was being truthful by stating she was in Argentina for 9 months and now she is being penalized for it. But it seems that some are being rewarded for doing things illegal. Maybe she can call again and try a different person - she might get a different person. Also you could inquire if going there in person could speed up the process. One of my family members had to go get her police clearance in another country and went in person, paid a few extra dollars and got her clearance in a few days. Otherwise it would have taken many weeks.

[Que Saudade 284]

Sorry for your delay on the police certificate. There has to be a quicker way to obtain it. That may be just a standard answer. Don't give up on it.

Is there anyone in Buenos Aires that can file the application to the appropriate police station to get the certificate and then mail it to you? Just bouncing ideas for you....

As far as the "amnesty" program. It isn't fair to say it is horrible. Sure, I understand your frustration about the wait. We all are. But these young adults didn't have a decision when coming over with their parents. They shouldn't be punished.

But this "amnesty" program is loaded with red tape and it isn't going to be a piece of pie for them either. You should read what all they have to do.

It is too early to conclude what impact it will have of processing other immigrant visas. I also have guarded pessimism regarding "increased wait times". Maybe it is time for letters to elected officials voicing our concern regarding how these new applications are going to be handled in regards to existing applications. I haven't been able to find out if there will be additional staffing to handle these applications. There are a lot of unanswered questions regarding the impact of these new applications for me. It is a new precedence; and as with all other things that are new, there are going to be some difficulties at first.

Good Luck

Edited August 15, 2012 by Que Saudade

[Fight for Love 98]

Well, my fellow VJ'ers, it happened.

My fiancee lives in Kiev and, because she was in Buenos Aires for nine months in 2000, she has to provide a police certificate from Argentina.

Today she called the Argentinian embassy in Kiev and was told that it takes a year. And she doesn't want to wait any more. We've already been through NOA1, NOA2, NVC....and she is stressed out. And so am I.

It doesnt help that when I turned on the news this morning the lead story was that children of illegal immigrants are lining up to register for their "amnesty" program.

I can't even say how horrible this is.

did she mention that she need it ASAP??? maybe they will do something to provide that document if she mention that she need that documentation for travel/immigration purpose.

goodluck

[khwaidee1 196]

Here's a thought and just my .02 cents. In many places in the world there is the "official" way of doing things and the "other" way. Maybe you could contact an Argentinian immigration lawyer to see if they could assist. It may cost a couple of bucks but you also might get it quicker. Maybe one of the Argentinian VJers could chime in.

[C-ma'am 684]

A year!???

The only problem with having someone in Argentina doing it for you is that, it's the kind of thing where you need to show up in person to get done. Particularly because of the biometrics.

I once had someone with a fiancee from Colombia ask me how to do it from abroad, because this girl lived in Argentina for awhile. I gave him the exact information I gave you the other day. I still have this guy's name if you want to take a shot and message him.. I know that she passed the interview and all, but the guy never said if they got around to requesting it from the Embassy. I know, for sure, they didn't wait a year!

I can't believe they would make her wait that long... you can get the police report in a matter of hours for about U$D20 in Argentina.

Let me think about this one. I'll talk to my lawyer friends and see if they have any suggestions.

Edited August 15, 2012 by Celeste & C

[baron555 934]

did she mention that she need it ASAP??? maybe they will do something to provide that document if she mention that she need that documentation for travel/immigration purpose.

goodluck

A little financial "consideration" will speed up the process greatly.

[ClaireGio 35]

I bet you could get it straight away in person if she went to argentina. A year is not acceptable. The Italian embassy in London told me the same thing, so I went to Florence and got one in less than 5 minutes and for a few euros! For a lot of countries you'd just need to present a passport. Or the attorney idea? Good luck!

[C-ma'am 684]

I bet you could get it straight away in person if she went to argentina. A year is not acceptable. The Italian embassy in London told me the same thing, so I went to Florence and got one in less than 5 minutes and for a few euros! For a lot of countries you'd just need to present a passport. Or the attorney idea? Good luck!

Oh yeah! She will definitely get it in 6 hours (if she wanted to) in Argentina.... too bad the distance from Ukraine to Argentina is not the same as from London to Italy.

I'm waiting on a friend for info. I have sent you a message here with the email of the guy who had the same question for me months ago.

Edited August 15, 2012 by Celeste & C

[WaitingStill 24]

Sorry for your delay on the police certificate. There has to be a quicker way to obtain it. That may be just a standard answer. Don't give up on it.

Is there anyone in Buenos Aires that can file the application to the appropriate police station to get the certificate and then mail it to you? Just bouncing ideas for you....

As far as the "amnesty" program. It isn't fair to say it is horrible. Sure, I understand your frustration about the wait. We all are. But these young adults didn't have a decision when coming over with their parents. They shouldn't be punished.

But this "amnesty" program is loaded with red tape and it isn't going to be a piece of pie for them either. You should read what all they have to do.

It is too early to conclude what impact it will have of processing other immigrant visas. I also have guarded pessimism regarding "increased wait times". Maybe it is time for letters to elected officials voicing our concern regarding how these new applications are going to be handled in regards to existing applications. I haven't been able to find out if there will be additional staffing to handle these applications. There are a lot of unanswered questions regarding the impact of these new applications for me. It is a new precedence; and as with all other things that are new, there are going to be some difficulties at first.

Good Luck

Thanks. I was not referring to the amnesty program when i said it was horrible. It's horrible what's happening to my fiancee and I. All I meant by that comment was that this government seems to have its priorities upside down for no better reason than buying votes. It is very frustrating.

[WaitingStill 24]

UPDATE

The Argentine embassy in Kiev provided my fiancee with the name of a law firm in Argentina that they have worked with in the past. I sent them an email and received a message back that this can be handled within a few weeks. Hopefully. Just so everyone has this info, here's the scoop:

Fiancee goes to embassy, signs a proxy that is countersigned by a consular officer authorizing the attorney to act on her behalf; then gets fingerprinted and signs the fingerprint card; then makes copies of the info pages from her passport and the embassy certifies the copies.

These items are then transmitted to the attorney, either electronically if the embassy has the ability, or by courier.

The attorney then goes to the ministry of justice and obtains the police certificate; my understanding is that it is provided online. The materials are returned to my fiancee via FedEx or DHL. She goes online and prints the certificate.

The cost of this entire process is 290 Euros. Not bad.

[C-ma'am 684]

UPDATE

The Argentine embassy in Kiev provided my fiancee with the name of a law firm in Argentina that they have worked with in the past. I sent them an email and received a message back that this can be handled within a few weeks. Hopefully. Just so everyone has this info, here's the scoop:

Fiancee goes to embassy, signs a proxy that is countersigned by a consular officer authorizing the attorney to act on her behalf; then gets fingerprinted and signs the fingerprint card; then makes copies of the info pages from her passport and the embassy certifies the copies.

These items are then transmitted to the attorney, either electronically if the embassy has the ability, or by courier.

The attorney then goes to the ministry of justice and obtains the police certificate; my understanding is that it is provided online. The materials are returned to my fiancee via FedEx or DHL. She goes online and prints the certificate.

The cost of this entire process is 290 Euros. Not bad.

I'm glad they gave you a way to resolve this.

[Que Saudade 284]

Thanks. I was not referring to the amnesty program when i said it was horrible. It's horrible what's happening to my fiancee and I. All I meant by that comment was that this government seems to have its priorities upside down for no better reason than buying votes. It is very frustrating.

Gotcha... No harm, no foul.. I am sorry for your recent difficulties. It seems like Celeste and C have the inside scoop. I would check and see that if you fill out and sign the form, can someone in Buenos Aires turn the application for police certificate (or whatever they are calling it there) in for you and have it sent directly to you?????

Good Luck

[X Factor 1,112]

UPDATE

The Argentine embassy in Kiev provided my fiancee with the name of a law firm in Argentina that they have worked with in the past. I sent them an email and received a message back that this can be handled within a few weeks. Hopefully. Just so everyone has this info, here's the scoop:

Fiancee goes to embassy, signs a proxy that is countersigned by a consular officer authorizing the attorney to act on her behalf; then gets fingerprinted and signs the fingerprint card; then makes copies of the info pages from her passport and the embassy certifies the copies.

These items are then transmitted to the attorney, either electronically if the embassy has the ability, or by courier.

The attorney then goes to the ministry of justice and obtains the police certificate; my understanding is that it is provided online. The materials are returned to my fiancee via FedEx or DHL. She goes online and prints the certificate.

The cost of this entire process is 290 Euros. Not bad.

Awesome :dance:

[Fight for Love 98]

UPDATE

The Argentine embassy in Kiev provided my fiancee with the name of a law firm in Argentina that they have worked with in the past. I sent them an email and received a message back that this can be handled within a few weeks. Hopefully. Just so everyone has this info, here's the scoop:

Fiancee goes to embassy, signs a proxy that is countersigned by a consular officer authorizing the attorney to act on her behalf; then gets fingerprinted and signs the fingerprint card; then makes copies of the info pages from her passport and the embassy certifies the copies.

These items are then transmitted to the attorney, either electronically if the embassy has the ability, or by courier.

The attorney then goes to the ministry of justice and obtains the police certificate; my understanding is that it is provided online. The materials are returned to my fiancee via FedEx or DHL. She goes online and prints the certificate.

The cost of this entire process is 290 Euros. Not bad.

yaaaahhhooooo forever god is grateful!!!!!!!