Got my SS

[brtlmj 0]

I went to the SS office two weeks and three days after arrival and was told that I hadn't been in "the system" yet. The said they would accept my application, but that the processing would take additional four weeks. So I elected to withdraw my application and come back later. And so I did, ten days later. Surprise - apparently my data had appeared in "the system" on that very day! well over three weeks after I entered the US. I guess that it happened because my POE was Dublin, Ireland.

Anyway, my SS card arrived a week later. Now I am waiting for EAD, AP and ultimately GC - just got the three NOAs a few days ago!

Bartek

[Kath 0]

hi

good to have one step out of the way isnt it...when you arrive here in the state its a wait of 10 days before you are in the system...

good luck with the rest of your journey an hope its not a long wait for you

tc

kath

[I'm Gone 60]

You could have applied the first time and they could have checked SAVE after the G-845 had been sent. The outcome would been the same.

[brtlmj 0]

You could have applied the first time and they could have checked SAVE after the G-845 had been sent. The outcome would been the same.

Are you sure ? The lady in the office mentioned the four-week delay...

Bartek

[I'm Gone 60]

You could have applied the first time and they could have checked SAVE after the G-845 had been sent. The outcome would been the same.

Are you sure ? The lady in the office mentioned the four-week delay...

Yep that's why I always tell people to go back to the office and ask them to check SAVE even after the G-845 has been sent. SSA just needs to verify your status and whichever method does first wins.

https://s044a90.ssa.gov/apps10/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203720

C. Procedure — Verifying an Immigration Document

Step 13

Does the G-845 response (or subsequent SAVE query) confirm the information and the immigration status shown on the immigration document presented?

-- If yes, continue processing the SS-5. If an SSN will be assigned or an SSN card issued...

[Baileyj96 0]

Thanks for the info. My fiance will be using Dublin as POE and it's nice to know we might want to wait an extra bit of time before applying for his SS number.

Baileyj96

[mychelle 1]

my fiance and i went to the SSN office last Friday and was told that the Dept of Homeland Security WILL NOW issue the SS card so she didn't take his application for the SS Card and told us to wait for it in the mail. I asked if he was in the SAVE system and she said, yes he's name is on here but like she said DHS will now issue the SS card. She did say however that if in a week it won't come in the mail, for us to go back and she'll take his application and give him one.

it was just a bit disappointing...since i have to take off another weekday to go back there. should i have told her that maybe K1 visas HAVE TO APPLY IN PERSON FOR AN SSN CARD? anyways, we'll go back this week i think. it would be too good to be true for an SSN card to get in the mail by this week.

(by the way, the SSN office is in LA County.)

[Waiting in Vancouver 6]

my fiance and i went to the SSN office last Friday and was told that the Dept of Homeland Security WILL NOW issue the SS card so she didn't take his application for the SS Card and told us to wait for it in the mail. I asked if he was in the SAVE system and she said, yes he's name is on here but like she said DHS will now issue the SS card. She did say however that if in a week it won't come in the mail, for us to go back and she'll take his application and give him one.

it was just a bit disappointing...since i have to take off another weekday to go back there. should i have told her that maybe K1 visas HAVE TO APPLY IN PERSON FOR AN SSN CARD? anyways, we'll go back this week i think. it would be too good to be true for an SSN card to get in the mail by this week.

(by the way, the SSN office is in LA County.)

I'll let mdyoung handle this one but it sounds like to me that the lady at the SSA office is misinformed unless there has been a recent change in the process ...

[I'm Gone 60]

my fiance and i went to the SSN office last Friday and was told that the Dept of Homeland Security WILL NOW issue the SS card so she didn't take his application for the SS Card and told us to wait for it in the mail. I asked if he was in the SAVE system and she said, yes he's name is on here but like she said DHS will now issue the SS card. She did say however that if in a week it won't come in the mail, for us to go back and she'll take his application and give him one.

Which SSA office was this LA has quite a few SSA offices. You know the address?

First off DHS has never issued anyone an SSN card. All SSN cards come from SSA Headquarters in Woodlawn, MD. Bonehead at SSA office is thinking of Enumeration At Entry. However, that's only for people age 18 or older that have an immigrant visa and ALL K visa classifications are nonimmigrant and the SSN card still comes from SSA Headquarters.

Go back to office and have him apply again. Start yelling for the office manager if they again won't accept the application.

An individual with K-1 status applying for a work authorized SSN must present evidence at an SSA office to establish his or her age, identity and current lawful employment authorized status.

An individual needs to provide at least two documents as evidence to establish age, identity and current lawful employment authorized status.

SSA will not assign an SSN or issue a card to an individual that is within 14 days of his or her alien status expiring. Until the 76th day after entry an individual with K-1 status only needs to provide an unexpired I-94 showing current K-1 status to establish employment authorized status for SSN purposes.

Once, an individual with K-1 status has been in the United States 76 days he or she will need another document, i.e. I-551, I-688B or I-766 to establish employment authorized status for SSN purposes.

RM 00203.500 Employment Authorization for Nonimmigrants:

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203500#C1

RM 00203.410 Evidence of Alien Status for an SSN Card for an Alien Lawfully Admitted for Permanent Residence:

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203410

(this is for you, since I'm assuming you will change your name after marriage)

Suggest that individuals apply for a corrected SSN card to update the SSN record when there has been a name change due to marriage.

Only the marriage document (foreign or domestic) is needed if it meets the following criteria:

-- The new name can be derived from the marriage document, i.e. bride takes the groom's last name, groom takes bride's last name, compound name (with or without hyphen) of each spouse's original name for either or both parties.

Note: State law must also allow the type of name change wishing to be made

-- The marriage occurred within the past two years

-- The marriage document shows sufficient identifying information, e.g., biographical data such as age, date of birth or parent's names, and

-- The identifying information matches the information on his/her current Social Security number record.

The applicant will need to submit an identity document in the old name along with the marriage document if:

-- The marriage occurred within the last two years and has biographical information, e.g., age, date of birth or parent's names which does not match our records, e.g., the SSN record.

-- The marriage occurred within the last two years, but does not show biographical information, or

-- The marriage occurred over two years ago (with or without biographical information.)

The identity document used to establish the old name must match the name on the current SSN record. The identity document is acceptable even if over two years old or expired.

When issuing immigration documents, the Department of State and Department of Homeland Security issue them in the person’s legal name. The legal name is also generally the name in which the foreign passport was issued.

When an alien applies for an SSN card, SSA presumes the name on the immigration document is the legal name unless the applicant presents evidence of a legal name change (e.g., marriage) that occurred after the immigration document was issued.

You can find detailed information regarding changing SSN record (Numident) data on the SSA Website at:

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203210

http://tinyurl.com/f7s8l

When requesting an SSN card, the documents presented, as evidence must be either originals or copies certified by the issuing agency. SSA will not accept uncertified or notarized photocopies as evidence.

If a foreign-born person has the foreign birth certificate (BC) in his/her possession or can easily obtain a copy, he or she must submit it as proof of age. When a person is foreign-born, a BC may not exist, may not have been recorded shortly after birth, or the probative value of the document may not be high. In these situations, SSA can accept alternative evidence of age in order of probative value. The alternative evidence of age may be less than a year old, e.g., a DHS document or passport.

You can find detailed information regarding evidence that establishes age on the SSA Website at:

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203110

The documents acceptable as evidence of identity are now based on three factors: (1) the applicant’s age, (2) the applicant’s citizenship/alien status, and (3) the relative probative value of documents.

Any document used to establish identity must meet the following criteria:

-- The document provides information the reviewer can compare with the data on the form SS-5 (e.g., the person's name, as well as age, date of birth, or parents' names) and/or

-- The document provides information the reviewer can compare with the applicant (e.g., physical description, photograph).

NOTE: A non-picture identity document should have the person's name as well as information that can be compared to the SSN record, the applicant or other documents submitted (e.g., age, date of birth, or parents' names).

However, the acceptability of an identity document must be evaluated on a case by case basis by the office processing the application, taking into consideration the applicant's situation and exploring what evidence is available for the person.

You can find detailed information regarding evidence that establishes identity on the SSA Website at:

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203200#E6

SSA will not accept an application filing receipt or notice of action as proof of current lawful employment authorized status.

Take the required documents, to the nearest Social Security office. Individuals age 12 or older applying for an original SSN and card must apply in person at one of our offices.

You can obtain the address and directions to the nearest Social Security office from the Social Security Office Locator, which is available on the Internet at:

http://www.ssa.gov/locator

Normally, an SSN card should be received in the mail within two weeks after the application and document(s) have been received and verified.

When an alien requests an SSN or replacement/corrected SSN card, SSA will verify his or her documents and current status with the appropriate Bureau of the Department of Homeland Security. If verification is not available through the Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements (SAVE) system, SSA will send Form G-845 for manual verification.

RM 00203.720 Verifying Immigration Documents:

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203720

The 14 day status expiration limit for assigning an SSN and/or issuing a card applies even if an individual submitted his or her application before being within the 14 day period and entered the 14 day period while waiting for his or her status to be verified.

If the SSA office does send the G-845, suggest that you go back to the SSA office no more that once week with your documents to (1) ask them to check SAVE again (2) ask if they sent a G-845 (3) if yes, did it come back (4) after 30 days ask if they have followed up on the G-845 by calling or sending another mark “second request.”

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203735

RM 00203.735 Requesting Online (Primary) Verification By SAVE

You can try calling the SSA Regional Office if you have waited at least 30 days and your local SSA office doesn't seem to be concerned about following up on the G-845

http://www.ssa.gov/otherssasites/

Refer them to:

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203740

RM 00203.740 Requesting Additional (Manual) Verification By DHS

Step 6

DHS should respond to SSA within 15 federal work days after receiving the Form G-845. If DHS does not respond within 15 federal work days from the receipt of the G-845 from SSA, follow-up with the DHS, USCIS Immigration Status office. (Allow 15 days plus five additional federal work days of mail time for the G-845 to be received at and returned from DHS. Follow local practice to follow-up with DHS.

Some SSA offices have an arrangement with the DHS, USCIS office to telephone for the follow-up contact; other SSA offices send a copy of the original G-845 annotated “second request.”) If the DHS response is still not received within 15 federal work days after the follow-up contact (if the follow-up is by mail allow five additional federal work days of mail time for the G-845 to be received at and returned from DHS), make a second follow-up contact. If the DHS response is not received within 15 federal workdays (again, if the follow-up is by mail, allow five additional federal work days of mail time for the G-845 to be received at and returned from DHS), after two follow-ups, contact the Regional Office (RO). Also report to the RO any trend that shows a serious deviation by DHS from the above time frames. The RO will consult with central office.

All cards are mailed from Social Security Headquarters in Baltimore, Maryland to the postal address provided on the Form SS-5.

You may find additional SSN and employment information on the Internal Revenue Service Website at:

http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/intern...=129227,00.html

[mychelle 1]

^i ASSUMED that she saw his passport and saw K1 on it so we didn't inquire anymore and just thought ...ok...guess it has changed now. later on i thought i should have at least asked one more time if she knew he's on K1.

it was at the long beach office...there was a short wait...about 15 minutes or so. the first thing we asked is if he is in the SAVE system...which he was so it would have just been a simple...take application...wham bam...wait for card. argh. anyways, we were hoping to go to DMV and get his license (even though it will expire in January...) this week. i'll let you know what will happen this thursday.

[I'm Gone 60]

^i ASSUMED that she saw his passport and saw K1 on it so we didn't inquire anymore and just thought ...ok...guess it has changed now. later on i thought i should have at least asked one more time if she knew he's on K1.

it was at the long beach office...there was a short wait...about 15 minutes or so. the first thing we asked is if he is in the SAVE system...which he was so it would have just been a simple...take application...wham bam...wait for card. argh. anyways, we were hoping to go to DMV and get his license (even though it will expire in January...) this week. i'll let you know what will happen this thursday.

Hopefully, by the next time you go back they will know what's a K-1 visa and accept the application.

[I'm Gone 60]

^i ASSUMED that she saw his passport and saw K1 on it so we didn't inquire anymore and just thought ...ok...guess it has changed now. later on i thought i should have at least asked one more time if she knew he's on K1.

it was at the long beach office...there was a short wait...about 15 minutes or so. the first thing we asked is if he is in the SAVE system...which he was so it would have just been a simple...take application...wham bam...wait for card. argh. anyways, we were hoping to go to DMV and get his license (even though it will expire in January...) this week. i'll let you know what will happen this thursday.

Which Office?

4957 PARAMOUNT BLVD

LAKEWOOD CA 90712

2005 LONG BEACH BLVD

LONG BEACH CA 90806

22600 CRENSHAW BLVD

TORRANCE CA 90505

7200 GREENLEAF

WHITTIER CA 90602

All 4 come up for Long Beach CA