need DNA test done in Philippines

[Mmg 0]

Do any one have any Dr friends that can help my friend get a DNA test for the NSO Certificating of Birth? and the Dr. can do it fast he is only going to be in the philippines for the birth of his first child and needs that paper work to take back to the states so he can make sure his family is take care of by the army. any help will do, salamat. Kuya & ate!!!!!!!!

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Google DNA Testing Philippines. You need to make sure the test will be certified by Philippines government for paternity testing.

[actob99 156]

Your friend needs to call the US Embassy or get the facts there. My friend just had his interview for his daughter and he has to take a DNA test. The test will be mailed to him, from the U.S., he can do the test himself or go to ST.Lukes(maybe more options) and then send the kit back to the U.S.. In his case, their are not any places in the Phils that the U.S. will let take a test and send the U.S. the results. Your friends case may be different because he is in the Military... Best to go through the embassy rather than get second hand info on here. Good luck to your friend.

[Penguin_ie 5,994]

*** Moving from K1 to Philippines regional forum for country specific answers ****

[cerebus407 16]

Just be aware that if you don't do the test through Embassy protocols, the results will not be accepted as definitive evidence of paternity. If you are planning to take the test anyway, just request to take one when you register the child via CRBA. This will delay everything by a few months but will ensure that the DNA test will be usable for all purposes.

[Justud 42]

Is this required for all report if birth abroad?

[cerebus407 16]

the Embassy does not require a DNA test for a CRBA, ever. They will recommend DNA in cases where there is insufficient evidence of filiation between the child and the alleged US citizen parent. Married couples are presumed to have filiated children unless there is a red flag. Unmarried couples must show that they were in a mutually exclusive relationship at the time of conception and that the parents had access to each other at the time of conception. If a couple is unable to prove this relationship, cannot show they were in the same country at probably time of conception, or if the couple wishes to do DNA (ie AmCit father is unsure he really is the dad, for example) then a DNA test can be recommended.

In cases where couples were planning to do DNA anyway, I would recommend they go through the Embassy just in case the ACS folks ended up recommending it anyway. In cases where the couple are planning to do DNA, that is usually a sign that at least one half of that couple probably doesn't believe the child is theirs. So if the parents question it, why wouldn't the Embassy? Doing the DNA through the Embassy just kills two birds with one stone.

[Tahoma 2,292]

U.S. Embassy - Link to CRBA information.

U.S. Embassy - Link to DNA test information.

[actob99 156]

the Embassy does not require a DNA test for a CRBA, ever. They will recommend DNA in cases where there is insufficient evidence of filiation between the child and the alleged US citizen parent. Married couples are presumed to have filiated children unless there is a red flag. Unmarried couples must show that they were in a mutually exclusive relationship at the time of conception and that the parents had access to each other at the time of conception. If a couple is unable to prove this relationship, cannot show they were in the same country at probably time of conception, or if the couple wishes to do DNA (ie AmCit father is unsure he really is the dad, for example) then a DNA test can be recommended.

In cases where couples were planning to do DNA anyway, I would recommend they go through the Embassy just in case the ACS folks ended up recommending it anyway. In cases where the couple are planning to do DNA, that is usually a sign that at least one half of that couple probably doesn't believe the child is theirs. So if the parents question it, why wouldn't the Embassy? Doing the DNA through the Embassy just kills two birds with one stone.

.. If I'm not mistaken, just going by what both of my friends doing this recently said, it is up to the CO officer to determine if they want a DNA test or not. And as we know, what they say goes.

[sparkygirl 6]

Do any one have any Dr friends that can help my friend get a DNA test for the NSO Certificating of Birth? and the Dr. can do it fast he is only going to be in the philippines for the birth of his first child and needs that paper work to take back to the states so he can make sure his family is take care of by the army. any help will do, salamat. Kuya & ate!!!!!!!!

DNA test for NSO birth certificate?

Never heard of NSO asking for a DNA test.

Paperwork to submit to the army

Once he registers his child at the local civil registrar and attached his signature there in, he will be given a Local copy of the child's birth certificate. This is what my husband submitted to the army, he didn't wait for the NSO copy of the birth certificate anymore, and the army accepted it.

[Justud 42]

I signed all paperwork from the hospital birth to birth certificate and was never asked to do dna testing. I have not done CRBA yet as im waiting on my next visit to get this done. Thanks for the info.

[cerebus407 16]

.. If I'm not mistaken, just going by what both of my friends doing this recently said, it is up to the CO officer to determine if they want a DNA test or not. And as we know, what they say goes.

My advice was more aimed at the fact that they are planning to do a DNA test anyway. Given that, might as well go through Embassy protocols so that the results can be counted in the CRBA. The Consular officer decides whether they believe filiation exists or not. They may recommend DNA if they are not convinced and doubt that additional documentary evidence would sway them (such as the parents being in different countries based on probable time of conception). The decision to take the test is voluntary in the sense that you don't have to do it. Those who don't take the test are unlikely to receive CRBA's though.

I may not be a Gold member, but I do know what I am talking about. Your two friends experiences do not invalidate anything I said.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

My advice was more aimed at the fact that they are planning to do a DNA test anyway. Given that, might as well go through Embassy protocols so that the results can be counted in the CRBA. The Consular officer decides whether they believe filiation exists or not. They may recommend DNA if they are not convinced and doubt that additional documentary evidence would sway them (such as the parents being in different countries based on probable time of conception). The decision to take the test is voluntary in the sense that you don't have to do it. Those who don't take the test are unlikely to receive CRBA's though.

I may not be a Gold member, but I do know what I am talking about. Your two friends experiences do not invalidate anything I said.

Some of it is the cost involved, say $100-$125 for a private test, more to prove legal paternity, and even more to satisfy the chain of custody required for immigration purposes. If you check out Tahoma's link and do it in the manner required for CRBA, you may still have to pay extra to find out the results of the DNA test for your own purposes.

It looks like the test is not required for now, and would be an issue for the CRBA later. If the father or mother wants the paternity test for their own purposes, they may want to get the less expensive test for now.

Edited August 12, 2012 by The Patriot

[sparkygirl 6]

No DNA test is required for NSO registration of birth.

DNA test for the purpose of CRBA and US passport should be done with the advice of the US embassy through the American consul during the interview. The consul will provide you a list of certified dna facilities in the US. You will call one of the facilities and set up a case with them and then pay the fee (from 600 USD onwards). The dna collection kit is sent to the US embassy for dna sample collection for both child and USC parent if USC parent is in the Philippines but if not, the dna facility will set up a location that is close to the residence of the USC in the states for dna sample collection. The schedule for the dna collection for the child will be set up by the embassy in coordination with ST lukes. The collection is done in the embassy with the help of a st lukes medical personnel and in front of an embassy representative. A fee of 1500 pesos has to be paid to st lukes atleast two hours before the schedule of collection. The samples are now sent back to the states for analysis. The result will be sent to the embassy sometimes via email, some facilities will also send a result to the USC without a fee.

NOTE:

The embassy will not recognize any dna testing done without the advice of the american consul.

St. Lukes does not conduct DNA testing FOR CRBA/US Passport.

You are more likely to be asked to do DNA test if the child was born out of wedlock.

DNA test is not compulsory BUTTTTTTT that's the only fool proof way to prove filiation if your child's CRBA application is denied so it is in essence the only thing and only way to be granted CRBA if the consul finds your documents/evidence insufficient.

Edited August 12, 2012 by sparkygirl

[actob99 156]

No DNA test is required for NSO registration of birth.

DNA test for the purpose of CRBA and US passport should be done with the advice of the US embassy through the American consul during the interview. The consul will provide you a list of certified dna facilities in the US. You will call one of the facilities and set up a case with them and then pay the fee (from 600 USD onwards). The dna collection kit is sent to the US embassy for dna sample collection for both child and USC parent if USC parent is in the Philippines but if not, the dna facility will set up a location that is close to the residence of the USC in the states for dna sample collection. The schedule for the dna collection for the child will be set up by the embassy in coordination with ST lukes. The collection is done in the embassy with the help of a st lukes medical personnel and in front of an embassy representative. A fee of 1500 pesos has to be paid to st lukes atleast two hours before the schedule of collection. The samples are now sent back to the states for analysis. The result will be sent to the embassy sometimes via email, some facilities will also send a result to the USC without a fee.

NOTE:

The embassy will not recognize any dna testing done without the advice of the american consul.

St. Lukes does not conduct DNA testing FOR CRBA/US Passport.

You are more likely to be asked to do DNA test if the child was born out of wedlock.

DNA test is not compulsory BUTTTTTTT that's the only fool proof way to prove filiation if your child's CRBA application is denied so it is in essence the only thing and only way to be granted CRBA if the consul finds your documents/evidence insufficient.

Very well explained and that is exactly what I have heard.