How does this affect us?

[NikkiB 10]

Why are so many blind to see the immigration system in this country is screwed up? What do other countries do for a USC trying to immigrate there? Can a USC ever go to the philippines and become a citizen? NO. Can anyone immigrate to Australia without having a job there? NOPE. What about the prostitutes from Brazil? They happened to just be in a situation involving secret service. Dumb luck they were the ones. And they can immigrate to the US just for a story. The protestor in China. Jailed there, but gets to come to the US within a month. Why do they get moved to the front of the line?

You have at least a better view that the children get benefits (but it costs the people who do things LEGALLY, time... one thing you can not get back. And I mean that as processing time that we have to wait. The actual time spent someone working on a case is the same, but adding more orders makes the overall processing time longer. It's not a hard concept to grasp) Some just think that the parents get rights to stay too because you "can't" break up families. You feel we don't give compassion, but what you don't realize it's actually being shoveled out already. We can't solve all of the world's problems.

[NikkiB 10]

One thing has nothing to do with the other.

Yes, I think it does...This is immigration, One thing def affect the other.

Have a good day!

of course it will,

are you kidding me!

ALL BACKGROUND CHECKS ARE DONE BY THE FBI. no one else can or will do this job,

I dont see or think that USCIS will hire a lot of new people (or contract a new third party company) for the data entry process they do because of the budget they have set.

so obviously people who are waiting for a response from uscis will have to wait a bit more. specially in big states.

c'est la vie...

Your thinking is as good as mine!

[NikkiB 10]

You are definitely entitled to your opinion but I would suggest to look through the lenses of the illegal immigrant before judging them so harshly. Educate your self regarding what they have been facing because of their status and show some compassion. We all need a little compassion here and there.

I think America has shown a lot of compassion. Can illegal immigrants go to the UK or France and do this? Definitely Not!

Their immigration system is tough and def stronger than the US. We have dished out a lot of compassion. I am not against legalizing those who are here already, like the children. its no fault of theirs but they get it so easily and for $500 too!. I have paid...way more than that. I agree a penalty also should be paid.

[Harsh_77 718]

You are definitely entitled to your opinion but I would suggest to look through the lenses of the illegal immigrant before judging them so harshly. Educate your self regarding what they have been facing because of their status and show some compassion. We all need a little compassion here and there.

I m not against granting them the status, I am against the fees that is charged.

Being illegal violating all the rules and regulation one gets to get away with $500..... if I do everything legally I have to pay several thousand dollars.

How does that make sense?

Lot of them make lot more money than you think...... it would had been fair they would be required to pay the same fees any CR1 or K1 applicant is required plus a penalty for using the govt funds until now.

I totally agree with you. You're wasting your time, he won't listen to you.

You belive in system where everything is doled out by govt, sorry I do not believe in that system.

I believe in a system which is fair to everyone.

[JohnR! 5,495]

At work, and I came across this link;

http://news.yahoo.co...-221839009.html

How does that affect us? I mean with the back logs thats going on now. Will this mean that the wait will be longer. I dont start removing conditions till sometime next year..but its just something that I have been thinking about since I saw it on yahoo news.

What are your thoughts?

We can speculate but we can't tell if or how this will affect anything. There are no set deadlines for any immigration cases and if you look at the various timelines publishd in these fori you will realize that dates not always jive as they are fluid and dependent on each individual case. Moreover, your case is that of AOS, hence unrelated to the link you posted.

Just sit tight and relax. There is nothing you can do to expedite your case.

[Xanax 349]

Just for those who continue to say Obama did this for votes, the people with the work permit won't be able to vote :s

Edit: also the person who said the young illegals have to he 16- it's they have to have of been brought here by that age buy they can be up to 30 to to get the work permit now.

Back on topic:

I think that all these extra applications will slow down the process for everyone else- yes! Especially those in California and the Vermont area.

As unfortunate as it is for those of us who have to wait longer, I think this is a really good thing Obama is doing.

Edited August 8, 2012 by Xanax

[rocks 494]

You belive in system where everything is doled out by govt, sorry I do not believe in that system.

I believe in a system which is fair to everyone.

Don't tell me what I do and don't think. You know nothing about me. What gives you the authority to state my thoughts for me? Do you think you're above me and you know everything?

[Hypnos 6,577]

To those who castigate illegal immigrants I say: try living it.

Some people were brought to this country as a child and had no say in it. Some made questionable decisions that seemed like a good idea at the time. Others still just came here in search of a better life for themselves and their children.

Life is not as black and white as the Republican party perched on their ivory tower would have you believe.

Living in fear that this day could be your last amongst your family is no way for anyone to live. I'm not one to quote the bible, but since the Right seems to be in love with it I am fairly certain it says to examine the plank in your own eye before trying to remove the speck in your brother's. Perhaps the entire US population (sans native Americans, of course) should self-deport back to Europe? I'm fairly sure none of them had papers when they arrived here. The bible is big on punishing children for their parents' sins, after all.

At the end of the day it's about treating people as human beings, with compassion and dignity. Did some of them break the law by coming here? Certainly. Does this mean that none of them are worth helping, that we should just spit on them? No it does not.

Edited August 9, 2012 by Hypnos

[rocks 494]

To those who castigate illegal immigrants I say: try living it.

Some people were brought to this country as a child and had no say in it. Some made questionable decisions that seemed like a good idea at the time. Others still just came here in search of a better life for themselves and their children.

Life is not as black and white as the Republican party perched on their ivory tower would have you believe.

Living in fear that this day could be your last amongst your family is no way for anyone to live. I'm not one to quote the bible, but since the Right seems to be in love with it I am fairly certain it says to examine the plank in your own eye before trying to remove the speck in your brother's. Perhaps the entire US population (sans native Americans, of course) should self-deport back to Europe? I'm fairly sure none of them had papers when they arrived here. The bible is big on punishing children for their parents' sins, after all.

At the end of the day it's about treating people as human beings, with compassion and dignity. Did some of them break the law by coming here? Certainly. Does this mean that none of them are worth helping, that we should just spit on them? No it does not.

Exactly. Being illegal inside a country is not a pleasant experience. Children who were brought here by their parents illegally should not be punished for mistakes they didn't make. It is hard to believe how judgmental people can be sometimes.

[TJ 4EVER 40]

I could not have said it better. Compassion...we are talking about human lives. Yes it is not fair that we had to pay much higher fees to get our spouses here to the U.S. But on the other hand we do not walk in the shoes of those who have to live in this country as an illegal immigrant. We do not know what they have faced but instead we tend to lump everyone in one category assuming that everyone must be punished because everyone has done wrong. If you judge be prepared to be judged. Compassion...geesh...is that such a hard concept?

To those who castigate illegal immigrants I say: try living it.

Some people were brought to this country as a child and had no say in it. Some made questionable decisions that seemed like a good idea at the time. Others still just came here in search of a better life for themselves and their children.

Life is not as black and white as the Republican party perched on their ivory tower would have you believe.

Living in fear that this day could be your last amongst your family is no way for anyone to live. I'm not one to quote the bible, but since the Right seems to be in love with it I am fairly certain it says to examine the plank in your own eye before trying to remove the speck in your brother's. Perhaps the entire US population (sans native Americans, of course) should self-deport back to Europe? I'm fairly sure none of them had papers when they arrived here. The bible is big on punishing children for their parents' sins, after all.

At the end of the day it's about treating people as human beings, with compassion and dignity. Did some of them break the law by coming here? Certainly. Does this mean that none of them are worth helping, that we should just spit on them? No it does not.

Thank you so much for voicing this...my God these are human beings we are talking about.

Exactly. Being illegal inside a country is not a pleasant experience. Children who were brought here by their parents illegally should not be punished for mistakes they didn't make. It is hard to believe how judgmental people can be sometimes.

[Darnell 8,478]

This is good news for those who will be given the opportunity to become legal in this country. I am not sure why you believe this will effect you? Please explain how you think this will negatively effect removing your conditions or your spouses conditions?

It's the same adjudicators, alas.

So if 500 more adjudicators are not hired, for example, the wait time in the queue for ALL types slows to a crawl, still using FIFO inventory techniques.

Each Adjudicator is tasked by the director of each service center, to work on a certain type of petition, till the director says otherwise. This is well documented here at VJ, btw. Let me know if you can't find Gary's interview with a director at VSC.

So, it's not just ROC types - it's all types that will be affected.

Edited August 9, 2012 by Darnell

[Hypnos 6,577]

I personally would be willing to wait a little longer if it meant that people living on the edges of society could begin to get a foothold into a normal life, in the same way that I'd be willing to pay a little extra in taxes to help the disadvantaged and less fortunate (hell, less lucky in some parts).

I know that many people would not be willing to do that, however.

[t & f 7]

Pursuing a relationship with someone in another country is a CHOICE that YOU make. You also have have the choice to find love closer to home too. Which is very different from a child who was moved to this country by their parents. It was NOT their choice. It was the decision of their parents. So how can the costs be the same? That $500 has to be something that most can afford not just for a few.

[JohnR! 5,495]

It's the same adjudicators, alas.

So if 500 more adjudicators are not hired, for example, the wait time in the queue for ALL types slows to a crawl, still using FIFO inventory techniques.

Each Adjudicator is tasked by the director of each service center, to work on a certain type of petition, till the director says otherwise. This is well documented here at VJ, btw. Let me know if you can't find Gary's interview with a director at VSC.

So, it's not just ROC types - it's all types that will be affected.

In other words, there is no way of knowing if or how the waiting times will be affected for sure. They could allocate extra adjudicators, improve on productivity or do a million different things, all of which we can postulate, preceded by 'if' , as you just did.

To be sure, it's always easier and far more crowd pleasing to believe the worst. Isn't speculation a fantastic and exciting exercise in futility?

[Darnell 8,478]

In other words, there is no way of knowing if or how the waiting times will be affected for sure. They could allocate extra adjudicators, improve on productivity or do a million different things, all of which we can postulate, preceded by 'if' , as you just did.

To be sure, it's always easier and far more crowd pleasing to believe the worst. Isn't speculation a fantastic and exciting exercise in futility?

some other words for ya

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/381333-getting-a-reprieve-young-illegal-immigrants/page__view__findpost__p__5587389