1 in 5 cases suspected fraud end up being that way

[Heracles 417]

There seems to be an increasing number of people involved in marriage fraud.. Which pisses me off as this only delays the legitimate cases as well as forces the government to make the process tougher for everyone else..

I wonder how many people here are involved in a sham marriage??

Officials Crackdown on green-card marriages

***I am editing the topic title as it says 1/5 cases investigated -- not 1/5 in total -- are found to be fraudulant***

Edited October 21, 2006 by Captain Ewok

[Mirorgate 0]

oye... 21% of all fraud cases investigated are marriage fraud.

where is the converse numbers of international marriages/visas issued to # being found fraud? I doubt that that the number will be close to even 10%

[Alanlvsjudy 0]

oye... 21% of all fraud cases investigated are marriage fraud.

where is the converse numbers of international marriages/visas issued to # being found fraud? I doubt that that the number will be close to even 10%

I actually doubt many VJ'ers (if any) are involved in a fraudulent marriages, we are here mostly for companionship and support during a stressful time, I would assume if someone is involved for fraudulent reasons his motives would differ significantly, so he would likely not be here, other than to possibly peruse the legal stuff.

(sorry Mirorgate I meant to quote the original post)

Edited October 21, 2006 by Alanlvsjudy

[Captain Ewok 1,891]

***I am editing the topic title as it says 1/5 cases investigated -- not 1/5 in total -- are found to be fraudulant***

[one...two...tree 2,762]

***I am editing the topic title as it says 1/5 cases investigated -- not 1/5 in total -- are found to be fraudulant***

Thank you, Captain!

[Michaela_Hassan 1]

oye... 21% of all fraud cases investigated are marriage fraud.

where is the converse numbers of international marriages/visas issued to # being found fraud? I doubt that that the number will be close to even 10%

I actually doubt many VJ'ers (if any) are involved in a fraudulent marriages, we are here mostly for companionship and support during a stressful time, I would assume if someone is involved for fraudulent reasons his motives would differ significantly, so he would likely not be here, other than to possibly peruse the legal stuff.

(sorry Mirorgate I meant to quote the original post)

My thoughts exactly!

[peejay 327]

It is shocking, but it doesn't surprise me.

Do you ever wonder why it is so difficult to get a USA tourist visa for some country's citizens to visit here? Even with restrictions there are still way too many visa overstays.

In Houston I just read in the newspaper that 10% (400,000) of our population is illegal aliens.

Sad, but true that marriage can be just another way to break into the USA.

[john_and_marlene 162]

oye... 21% of all fraud cases investigated are marriage fraud.

where is the converse numbers of international marriages/visas issued to # being found fraud? I doubt that that the number will be close to even 10%

I actually doubt many VJ'ers (if any) are involved in a fraudulent marriages, we are here mostly for companionship and support during a stressful time, I would assume if someone is involved for fraudulent reasons his motives would differ significantly, so he would likely not be here, other than to possibly peruse the legal stuff.

(sorry Mirorgate I meant to quote the original post)

Only one side has to be a fraudster. There are members of VJ whose SO is frauding them. We see them coming back all the time to tell their stories.

[Alanlvsjudy 0]

oye... 21% of all fraud cases investigated are marriage fraud.

where is the converse numbers of international marriages/visas issued to # being found fraud? I doubt that that the number will be close to even 10%

I actually doubt many VJ'ers (if any) are involved in a fraudulent marriages, we are here mostly for companionship and support during a stressful time, I would assume if someone is involved for fraudulent reasons his motives would differ significantly, so he would likely not be here, other than to possibly peruse the legal stuff.

(sorry Mirorgate I meant to quote the original post)

Only one side has to be a fraudster. There are members of VJ whose SO is frauding them. We see them coming back all the time to tell their stories.

Ahh, valid point..

[Reba 2]

yep, there's been a few thru here over the years whove come back to say that as soon as their spouse is here in the US they're off and running. Some wait as long as getting the green card, others don't even bother. They get a K visa of some sort, and then high tail it.

Those types really really bug me, and I'd like to scoop their eyes out with a rusty spoon

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Those types really really bug me, and I'd like to scoop their eyes out with a rusty spoon

ewwwwww....

That is why I think IMBRA was a good law to pass. It puts scrutiny on these international dating services, both on the USC members as well as the foreign spouses. Once a site has a bad reputation, it will be an automatic red flag with immigration and those USC's that are smart will know which ones not to use if they don't want their petitions to be denied or stuck in administrative review.

[Mirorgate 0]

Those types really really bug me, and I'd like to scoop their eyes out with a rusty spoon

"But why a spoon Brother?"

"Cause it will hirt more.... you twit!"

hehehe

That is why I think IMBRA was a good law to pass. It puts scrutiny on these international dating services, both on the USC members as well as the foreign spouses. Once a site has a bad reputation, it will be an automatic red flag with immigration and those USC's that are smart will know which ones not to use if they don't want their petitions to be denied or stuck in administrative review.

IMBRA I thought dealt mostly with the USC part, or is there more than what was mentioned before it passed? (I'll admit I didnt read to far into it since it wouldnt effect me before it was passed) and doesnt really effect me now either. I know it is illegal to own and operate an internet marriage agency in the philipines, yet google foreign bride, and you see that there are many, maybe not operated there, but specifically geared towards them. how can a law for american citizens here have jurisdiction over there for non citizens?

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Those types really really bug me, and I'd like to scoop their eyes out with a rusty spoon

"But why a spoon Brother?"

"Cause it will hirt more.... you twit!"

hehehe

That is why I think IMBRA was a good law to pass. It puts scrutiny on these international dating services, both on the USC members as well as the foreign spouses. Once a site has a bad reputation, it will be an automatic red flag with immigration and those USC's that are smart will know which ones not to use if they don't want their petitions to be denied or stuck in administrative review.

IMBRA I thought dealt mostly with the USC part, or is there more than what was mentioned before it passed? (I'll admit I didnt read to far into it since it wouldnt effect me before it was passed) and doesnt really effect me now either. I know it is illegal to own and operate an internet marriage agency in the philipines, yet google foreign bride, and you see that there are many, maybe not operated there, but specifically geared towards them. how can a law for american citizens here have jurisdiction over there for non citizens?

With the new questions on the form added, the USC is required to name the specific agency used if they did use one. Immigration can then look into that agency's records (eventually having their own record) of cases where there was marriage fraud and then flag future petitions. They can require further review of the petition (asking for more evidence, etc). The foreign spouse could be more stringently scrutinized during the interview process (such as how long she/he was a member of the dating agency and how many USC's were they corresponding with). The agencies in turn will begin to be more selective about who can join as they don't want to risk being flagged as being a high risk for fraud by immigration. Because many of the agencies are international, they cannot be regulated by our laws, so with this it's putting pressure on them in terms of their business practices by saying to them their reputation will affect who gets approved for a visa or not.

Edited October 21, 2006 by Steven_and_Jinky