DNA in Embassy?

[Cinderella08 1]

hi,

Is there anyone here have an experience about the interview of ur children in the embassy and ask for DNA? is there any embassy have on the spot DNA testing? What happen during the interview and ask ur children to do some sort of DNA? My Child is having an interview in Aug 16, and im afraid if they will ask for DNA.. they are not my biological children but im their parents in the birthcertificates.

[Harpa Timsah 13,258]

Have you led the embassy to believe they are your biological children?

[Cinderella08 1]

Have you led the embassy to believe they are your biological children?

yes, thats because all the documents telling that they are my biological children

[John and Ann 10]

Did you already take them for their medical exam?? Did they pass it? Had you already adopted them legally in the PH??

Just curious?

[Kathryn41 3,205]

Are you the adoptive parent? Have you been their 'parent' from the time of birth?

[Cinderella08 1]

Are you the adoptive parent? Have you been their 'parent' from the time of birth?

they are done in medical, and they pass it already... i didnt adopted them legally since they are not registered in the local registry that time of birth.. im the one who registered them and i put my name as their parents.. with the permission of their biological parents.

[Harpa Timsah 13,258]

they are done in medical, and they pass it already... i didnt adopted them legally since they are not registered in the local registry that time of birth.. im the one who registered them and i put my name as their parents.. with the permission of their biological parents.

When and why did you do this?

[NigeriaorBust 4,087]

You are on a very risky path. If at ANY time during their immigration journey it surfaces that they are not your children both you and they could lose everything based on commiting fraud. If you are the "father" they may ask for DNA. If they do they will not get a visa and you will be in hot water for presenting them as your children.

[Matt&Maricel 0]

I am in a situation where my fiancee has been asked for additional evidence of relationship prior to conception.

We're considering DNA testing, as well.

[velrich 50]

You are on a very risky path. If at ANY time during their immigration journey it surfaces that they are not your children both you and they could lose everything based on commiting fraud. If you are the "father" they may ask for DNA. If they do they will not get a visa and you will be in hot water for presenting them as your children.

DITTO.

This was a bad move.

[LIFE'SJOURNEY 970]

This is considered to be fraud.

Now, if the said poster had used the single noun of child in her question, it could have been perceived that this action was a onetime instance, but the plural children was used, so the said poster was/ is quite aware of the fraudulent they have performed toward the Philippines, and now they are trying to projected this same fraud toward the USA.

Again, this is a TOS violation against this discussion board .

[Kathryn41 3,205]

I think what needs to be considered here before anyone starts saying that there was an intent to commit fraud is that we don't know the circumstances around the time of the birth of this child/children. It is common in a number of third world countries for extended family members or close friends to take over the role of parent for children where the original biological parents either cannot care for them or for some other reason do not want to care for them. Since the OPs name is on the birth certificate and both the biological parents agreed for the OP to take on the role of parent, then this indicates to me more of a culturally based decision between the individuals involved, well before there was any indication that the OP may be coming to the US. As any adoptive parent knows, there are often occasions where the parent forgets that the child is not of their own flesh and blood, especially if they have had them from birth, and even more so, if the arrangement is one that is cultural sanctioned and accepted in that culture. For all intents and purposes, these children are his/her children. They are just not his/her biological children.

The problem is that USCIS does put significance on the biological parentage of a child in order to prevent deliberate fraud. This does not sound to me like deliberate fraud - attempting to get someone who is not eligible to the US - rather inadvertent fraud, where a culturally accepted relationship in a different culture is now at odds with the accepted American standard. The OP does need to let USCIS know that the children are not biologically his/hers (not sure of the gender of the OP) but that he/she is and has been their responsible parent since their birth and that their parents willingly turned the children over to his/her custody.

Hopefully, USCIS will treat this family unit as the family unit that it is. If DNA is requested, the OP would best be prepared to tell the truth about how his/her name is on their birth certificates and explain the circumstances that led to this situation.

[LIFE'SJOURNEY 970]

Kathryn, you'll got to stop thinking that third world countries allow their citizens to committ these kinds of illegaly activities. Yes, in developing countries family members do take on and support others family members, but no country allows for the falsification of legal documents.

Please note, stop thinking in the term of 3rd world, all or most of these countries are developing countries with strict enforceable guidelines or registering the birth of a child. When you can point out that these developing countries are acceptance of such behavior, then you have an argument.

Most of these countries have strict birth registration policies guidelines. Google it. http://nso.citizenservices.com.ph/registration-of-live-birth

Pleae stop using the term third world, they are developing countries.

[HeatDeath 430]

This is at least the 3rd post I've read in the last 2 years about a PI citizen having done some significant alterations to birth certificates for family/social reasons, and then running into trouble (or at least anticipating it) when dealing with USCIS and/or the US DoS. We're a fairly small sample here at VisaJourney, so this sort of thing must be, if not common, at least far from unheard of in PI culture. And I've never heard of similar cases in other countries.

Given that, I wonder if the US visa section there, who must be aware of this phenomenon, take extra steps to check biological relations, or if they let it slide to some extent?

[Harpa Timsah 13,258]

This is at least the 3rd post I've read in the last 2 years about a PI citizen having done some significant alterations to birth certificates for family/social reasons, and then running into trouble (or at least anticipating it) when dealing with USCIS and/or the US DoS. We're a fairly small sample here at VisaJourney, so this sort of thing must be, if not common, at least far from unheard of in PI culture. And I've never heard of similar cases in other countries.

Given that, I wonder if the US visa section there, who must be aware of this phenomenon, take extra steps to check biological relations, or if they let it slide to some extent?

I have heard they check DNA extremely frequently in PI. I think they know about it.