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Hi guys,

My husband and I are about to file our I-130 this week the plan is that I would like to try and go over to visit at the end of September(I returned to the UK in April after my last visit)

I am so confused as to whether this is legal or something we should do? We got only 3 days together as man and wife and want to see each other so badly,but dont wat to jeopardise our CR1.

My main question is,if we do at least try is it a bad idea to argue your case with the POE officer? Say he says I shouldnt have tried to come over can I say actually its not illegal? And explain that my history shows that I have always done as planned,no overstays etc...or would this just annoy the officer and make him deny me entry?

Ive had some awful experiences with RDU POE,I want to go with a plan of action should I be given a hard time.

Im not currently working so my ties over here are mainly my rental agreement,plus I have my 13 year old son to get back to in time for christmas!!!!

Good or bad idea folks?

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Can he not visit you?

I wouldn't argue with the POE officers mainly because it can become heated quite quickly and before you know it you've said something you regret.

By the time they've decided to refuse entry, you're unlikely to change their minds by telling them things they already know.

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Hi guys,

My husband and I are about to file our I-130 this week the plan is that I would like to try and go over to visit at the end of September(I returned to the UK in April after my last visit)

I am so confused as to whether this is legal or something we should do? We got only 3 days together as man and wife and want to see each other so badly,but dont wat to jeopardise our CR1.

My main question is,if we do at least try is it a bad idea to argue your case with the POE officer? Say he says I shouldnt have tried to come over can I say actually its not illegal? And explain that my history shows that I have always done as planned,no overstays etc...or would this just annoy the officer and make him deny me entry?

Ive had some awful experiences with RDU POE,I want to go with a plan of action should I be given a hard time.

Im not currently working so my ties over here are mainly my rental agreement,plus I have my 13 year old son to get back to in time for christmas!!!!

Good or bad idea folks?

Thankyou!

This is a Federal employee and if you threaten him/her, even verbally in the heat of the momment, you will find yourself in a heap of trouble and that would affect your CR-1. Just remember that they are god in this case and if they deny you entry then you cannot enter. I would not worry too much if you do not have a history of over-stay or recent visits to the US with a week or two back in the UK. As long as it looks like you are still living in the UK, you should have no problems. If you get denied then he will have to come and visit you.

Good luck,

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Hi guys,

My husband and I are about to file our I-130 this week the plan is that I would like to try and go over to visit at the end of September(I returned to the UK in April after my last visit)

I am so confused as to whether this is legal or something we should do? We got only 3 days together as man and wife and want to see each other so badly,but dont wat to jeopardise our CR1.

My main question is,if we do at least try is it a bad idea to argue your case with the POE officer? Say he says I shouldnt have tried to come over can I say actually its not illegal? And explain that my history shows that I have always done as planned,no overstays etc...or would this just annoy the officer and make him deny me entry?

Ive had some awful experiences with RDU POE,I want to go with a plan of action should I be given a hard time.

Im not currently working so my ties over here are mainly my rental agreement,plus I have my 13 year old son to get back to in time for christmas!!!!

Good or bad idea folks?

Thankyou!

Why do you expect to have to argue?

Do everything you can to make sure you are not denied. Bring your proof, make sure you are within the allowed time inside the US each year. Have dates ready to show your last entry and exit dates. You will bring your NOA1 from your I-130 to show you are trying to do things the legal way. If another visit puts you over the allowed time, don't go, or shorten it to ensure you are within the legal times. If you are denied entry then leave gracefully, don't argue.

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To argue this isn't illegal doesn't mean anything. No one even the POE is stating you are doing anything illegal.

Just remember now you have strings ties to the US. You really need to show that yes you have a son you need to get back home to so they can see your ties to ur country. Because without a job that's all you have.

That POE is ur friend be nice to them. U sure don't want them putting something in ur file that will come to haunt u.

But honestly u are from the UK it should be just fine. Just smile and be nice.;)

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Oh heck Ive made it sound like Im going to arrive at POE all guns blazing, Im really not, I HATE confrontation but theres a particular officer that seems to have it in for me now, I just want to be able to stand up for myself and be able to say confidently "actually I havent done anything wrong by coming over to visit my husband" but if it means I'll just wind him or any other officer up I'll keep my mouth shut.

My husband has his own business,so its much easier for me to visit the States as he has the work commitments. We like everyone else here would just like to be able to spend a little time togther and not have to endure up to a year before we see each other again.If it turns out we have no choice then so be it.

The having the past dates of travel and returning home is a great idea thankyou.

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Oh heck Ive made it sound like Im going to arrive at POE all guns blazing, Im really not, I HATE confrontation but theres a particular officer that seems to have it in for me now, I just want to be able to stand up for myself and be able to say confidently "actually I havent done anything wrong by coming over to visit my husband" but if it means I'll just wind him or any other officer up I'll keep my mouth shut.

My husband has his own business,so its much easier for me to visit the States as he has the work commitments. We like everyone else here would just like to be able to spend a little time togther and not have to endure up to a year before we see each other again.If it turns out we have no choice then so be it.

The having the past dates of travel and returning home is a great idea thankyou.

Why not go to a different POE? Get a flight that connects through Newark or one of the larger airports. Then when you connect to the one you normally go to you don't go through immigration again. If one 'has it in for you' that's what I'd do for sure.

I agree with another poster...CBP are your friends :) I have always had good experiences despite my nervousness when I visited during out K1.

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I like the different POE idea, be nice, usually if you're reasonable they will be also.

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Hi guys,

My husband and I are about to file our I-130 this week the plan is that I would like to try and go over to visit at the end of September(I returned to the UK in April after my last visit)

I am so confused as to whether this is legal or something we should do? We got only 3 days together as man and wife and want to see each other so badly,but dont wat to jeopardise our CR1.

My main question is,if we do at least try is it a bad idea to argue your case with the POE officer? Say he says I shouldnt have tried to come over can I say actually its not illegal? And explain that my history shows that I have always done as planned,no overstays etc...or would this just annoy the officer and make him deny me entry?

Ive had some awful experiences with RDU POE,I want to go with a plan of action should I be given a hard time.

Im not currently working so my ties over here are mainly my rental agreement,plus I have my 13 year old son to get back to in time for christmas!!!!

Good or bad idea folks?

Thankyou!

Are you crazy? :bonk:

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It's not illegal, and from the UK it's usually hassle free to visit even when married to a USC.

I travelled about six times to the US between filing for the CR1 and getting my interview.

I always had the following with me

Return ticket

Letter from employer saying when they expected me back at work

Letter from landlady saying I had an ongoing commitment and lease

Bank and bills documents to show my continuing presence in the UK

NOA1 once we had it

History of travel to and from US showing no overstays etc over the previous 2 years (About 12 previous trips)

I always handed over my return ticket info with passport and the visa waiver green form at immigration. I had all the other evidence in a pouch ready to produce and in six different trips. I was never asked for it.

I was usually asked about my return travel plans, what I did for a job, that I was definitely not going to work during my vacation, who I was staying with (I answered "my husband", they then usually asked what his job was. And then told me to have a nice time and waved me through. Once the man didn't ask me any questions at all just told me I had a very pretty necklace on and told me to have a nice time (That was Newark)

It's not guaranteed that your experience will be completely hassle free but if you do get pulled into secondary checks then you can present your case for why you are returning and show that you are in the middle of doing the process legally and won't do anything to spoil that. Be sweet, polite and tell the truth.

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