"Getting a Reprieve: Young Illegal Immigrants

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I have but one option.....

[rocks 494]

Of course there is. There's also a difference between siblings moving out of the home but remaining close to home and siblings moving out of the home and far away. There are all kinds of differences. But that's not a discussion that has any real bearing on the question of whether or not young people that were brought here as children should be deported. I support them being given a pathway to lawful residency provided they meet certain criteria. Nobody wins if these young people are kicked back to a country many of them know nothing about. But to try and hinge the justification on this question of whether or not it would be fair to drag them out of their home leaving their US born siblings behind seems rather silly to me. It's not about the US born siblings. It's about these young people that are in a bad fix that they didn't put themselves in.

I totally agree with you. It was Sousuke who wanted the parents to return "home". I merely brought up the fact that there were underage citizen children living here in the family unit, and that wouldn't be possible to do that without removing the whole family or sending the citizen children into care. That is all.

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

I totally agree with you. It was Sousuke who wanted the parents to return "home". I merely brought up the fact that there were underage citizen children living here in the family unit, and that wouldn't be possible to do that without removing the whole family or sending the citizen children into care. That is all.

Of course its possible. It happens frequently when a parent is deported. The children generally face three scenarios:

1. They live with relatives

2. The go home with the parents (they are not deported).

3. They are handed over to foster care.

[rocks 494]

Of course its possible. It happens frequently when a parent is deported. The children generally face three scenarios:

1. They live with relatives

2. The go home with the parents (they are not deported).

3. They are handed over to foster care.

All of which are horrible options.

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

All of which are horrible options.

With the exception of number 3, I disagree. Number 3 is the smallest group and I'm not entirely sure of what circumstances cause it. If I were to take a shot in the dark, its might be a loss of custody due to criminal actions.

[rocks 494]

With the exception of number 3, I disagree. Number 3 is the smallest group and I'm not entirely sure of what circumstances cause it. If I were to take a shot in the dark, its might be a loss of custody due to criminal actions.

Separating a child from its parents is horrible, regardless of the circumstances. So is making a child leave their country of birth to live in their parent's "home country". Imagine if that happened to you when you were a child.

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

Separating a child from its parents is horrible, regardless of the circumstances. So is making a child leave their country of birth to live in their parent's "home country". Imagine if that happened to you when you were a child.

Its unfortunate, but what are you going to do? Open the border? Children are separated from irresponsible parents through the law no matter where they may have come from. Its simply unfortunate.

Edited August 3, 2012 by Sousuke

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

So is making a child leave their country of birth to live in their parent's "home country". Imagine if that happened to you when you were a child.

I have been and continue to consider career opportunities outside of the US. When the right opportunity comes up, the family will move. Including my US born daughter. There's absolutely nothing horrible about it.

[natty bumppo 297]

Separating a child from its parents is horrible, regardless of the circumstances. So is making a child leave their country of birth to live in their parent's "home country". Imagine if that happened to you when you were a child.

live in the parents home country where the parents actually have a support group of friends and other family members ... yea that can be stressful.

parents leave the country and live abroad more than you think ... and the parents actually go willingly. in some instances it's called being an expat. i know quite a few people in my company and others in my profession who have uprooted their family and moved to another country ... and this includes people with 1-12 yr olds, or pregnant spouses, and/or soon became pregnant spouses after they left the US. guess these parents should be drawn and quartered for moving them eh ...

[rocks 494]

live in the parents home country where the parents actually have a support group of friends and other family members ... yea that can be stressful.

parents leave the country and live abroad more than you think ... and the parents actually go willingly. in some instances it's called being an expat. i know quite a few people in my company and others in my profession who have uprooted their family and moved to another country ... and this includes people with 1-12 yr olds, or pregnant spouses, and/or soon became pregnant spouses after they left the US. guess these parents should be drawn and quartered for moving them eh ...

A country that they haven't lived in for 17 years? Yeah, I'm sure the "support group of friends" (whatever that is) is really strong.

I have been and continue to consider career opportunities outside of the US. When the right opportunity comes up, the family will move. Including my US born daughter. There's absolutely nothing horrible about it.

I'm talking about being deported... Moving by choice is different, obviously.

[Karee 4,190]

A country that they haven't lived in for 17 years? Yeah, I'm sure the "support group of friends" (whatever that is) is really strong.

I'm talking about being deported... Moving by choice is different, obviously.

Once again, you're still failing to address the issue. U.S. citizens break the law all the time. Should the child of a bank robber or child molester get special treatment? Their parents put them in the spot they are in. They should take up the bad situation they are in with mom and dad. I think they call it social responsibility .

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

A country that they haven't lived in for 17 years? Yeah, I'm sure the "support group of friends" (whatever that is) is really strong.

I noticed you picked the higher end of the spectrum to make your point. Thats why I previously said age matters. The older you are the more likely you'll remain in the US without the parents, or alternatively live near the border.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

I'm talking about being deported... Moving by choice is different, obviously.

You were talking about uprooting children. They are being uprooted one way or the other and to them, it doesn't make the first damn difference why.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

A country that they haven't lived in for 17 years? Yeah, I'm sure the "support group of friends" (whatever that is) is really strong.

Why not? 17 years - that's about how long I've been gone from Germany. And yet, my family and friends are all still there. And they are still my family and friends whether I live there or not.

You don't know what a support network is? Now I feel bad for you.

[rocks 494]

Why not? 17 years - that's about how long I've been gone from Germany. And yet, my family and friends are all still there. And they are still my family and friends whether I live there or not.

You don't know what a support network is? Now I feel bad for you.

Were you deported? Leaving somewhere by choice is not the same as your whole family being removed from a country. What a bizzare comparison. Why do you keep comparing moving by choice to Sousuke's suggestion of removing the whole family? I've made it clear that's what I am replying to yet you keep on making irrelevant comments.

There's also no need to condescend. I can speak English, I know what a support network is. That wasn't what they said though, it was badly worded.