"Getting a Reprieve: Young Illegal Immigrants

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

I'm responding to this. You must have missed this part.

Where are you responding to that?

[rocks 494]

Where are you responding to that?

In all of the posts where I have talked about the parents having to return home? You were the one to suggested it... Keep up.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

I'm responding to this. You must have missed this part.

You should have made that clear - from the looks of it, I would have sworn you were responding to my post. See that? ↓

I'm not assuming - they are from Guatemala where one parent must be a citizen to gain citizenship there.

Not necessarily, you are assuming. The point is, they were born here and are American citizens. They have lived here all their life, why should they leave? Are you saying American citizens have no rights to live in their own country? Again, this sounds like the Theresa May fascist plan.

That still doesn't make a lot of sense to me. The older ones have to stick around until their younger siblings are 18? Why? My dad left home when he was 18. I guess he shouldn't have because his younger sister - 12 at the time - was now separated from him? How about my dad's older brothers and sisters? Most of them left both my dad and his younger sister behind when they went out on his own at age 18? In fact, my father's oldest brother had left the parental home before his youngest sister was even born.

There's a difference between leaving home at 18, and your siblings being deported and possibly never being able to see them again due to a lifetime ban.

Edited August 3, 2012 by Mr. Big Dog

[natty bumppo 297]

I don't get to see my parents once a week. They're five thousand miles away. I see them once or twice a year for a couple weeks at a time. There are people out there who have done nothing wrong at all that get to see their parents even less than that. What's the point of discussing this angle when talking about what to do or not to do with illegal migrants?

yup.

[rocks 494]

You should have made that clear - from the looks of it, I would have sworn you were responding to my post. See that? ↓

There's a difference between leaving home at 18, and your siblings being deported and possibly never being able to see them again due to a lifetime ban.

OK sorry. However, I do think there is a difference between siblings being deported and your siblings moving out of home.

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

In all of the posts where I have talked about the parents having to return home? You were the one to suggested it... Keep up.

Yes and?

are we circling back to your comment that US citizens don't have a right to live here? Which no one has stated in this thread?

[natty bumppo 297]

We are talking about children... Last time I checked, you weren't a child.

Little do you know.... (I'm still a child at heart)

I see your comment went back the Jail discussion and children. Got it.

sous ... do your parents know you're no longer their child?

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

OK sorry. However, I do think there is a difference between siblings being deported and your siblings moving out of home.

who'd deporting the sibling?

sous ... do your parents know you're no longer their child?

Haha I see what you did there! In that context, the noun 'child' loses all reference to age.

Edited August 3, 2012 by Sousuke

[natty bumppo 297]

Haha I see what you did there! In that context, the noun 'child' loses all reference to age.

isn't that part of the illegal forgiveness game? a child used to be <18 ... then <21 ... now <27 (i think).

at what point does it end? or does it take on the context in my post?

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

OK sorry. However, I do think there is a difference between siblings being deported and your siblings moving out of home.

Of course there is. There's also a difference between siblings moving out of the home but remaining close to home and siblings moving out of the home and far away. There are all kinds of differences. But that's not a discussion that has any real bearing on the question of whether or not young people that were brought here as children should be deported. I support them being given a pathway to lawful residency provided they meet certain criteria. Nobody wins if these young people are kicked back to a country many of them know nothing about. But to try and hinge the justification on this question of whether or not it would be fair to drag them out of their home leaving their US born siblings behind seems rather silly to me. It's not about the US born siblings. It's about these young people that are in a bad fix that they didn't put themselves in.

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

isn't that part of the illegal forgiveness game? a child used to be <18 ... then <21 ... now <27 (i think).

at what point does it end? or does it take on the context in my post?

Well I believe the dream act used 18 as the defining year and then it added something like a 10 year window where people could still apply. If you had two 25 year olds for instance and one entered at 12 and the other entered at 19, I believe only the first would be eligible, but I'd need to go and check all of the age requirements.

Of course you'd have to somehow prove all of this through...medical records or school records?

Edited August 3, 2012 by Sousuke

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

Well I believe the dream act used 18 as the defining year and then it added something like a 10 year window where people could still apply. If you had two 25 year olds for instance and one entered at 12 and the other entered at 19, I believe only the first would be eligible, but I'd need to go and check all of the age requirements.

Of course you'd have to somehow prove all of this through...medical records or school records?

Correction - 16 not 18 for entry.

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Correction - 16 not 18 for entry.

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[Usui Takumi 1,562]

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