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Beats me....

I think that the issue is when people support their comments by highjacking the Christian faith and oftentimes that exposes their hypocrisy with the christian cafeteria approach.

you said they were profiteering... the dude is a christian, he does not support gay marriage. whats the issue, other than you do support gay marriage?

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I only speak for myself. A relationship with God is a personal one. My convictions are my own based upon my own understanding of the Scriptures.

Then perhaps you should post accordingly, rather than coming across as if your word is scripture.

I know you didn't ask but it was your arrogance that had me peg you for a Baptist, you folks are always tripping over your tongues.

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idk why you keep saying that. disney cut the partnership because they didn't want to upset the lbgt community. chick-fil-a pulled the remaining toys due to saftey concerns of childrens fingers getting hurt & replaced them w/ an ice cream cone. those b@stards!

No. That is not what happened. The Jim Henson Foundation pulled the toys. As an attempt to cover up, a few days after the toys were pulled they claimed it was for safety issues, even though the toys had been safety tested.

Now kids are being made fat by Chick-Fil-A because a person made a stupid statement, lied about the toys being withdrawn and then tried to cover it up. None of these actions are the actions of good Christian people, these are the actions of an embarrassed corporation.

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I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that everyone here reads decent enough English to understand what it says about Homosexuality in the Holy Bible.

That is the Old Testament. Talk to a Rabbi if you want. It has nothing to do with the New Covenant in Christ.

Here, try reading this and what follows. It explains where you are going wrong.

Why do Christians not obey the Old Testaments commands to kill homosexuals and disobedient children?

by Matt Slick

Critics of the Bible often cite Old Testament instances of slavery, violence against homosexuals, wiping out nations, etc., as evidence of a morally inadequate set of rules. They will also often ask why present-day Christians don't follow these "barbaric" teachings today. They complain that Christians are inconsistent, and say that if we really follow the Bible then why don't we advocate such things as killing both homosexuals (Lev. 20:13) and disobedient children (Deut. 21:18-21).

The reason we don't is because the Old Covenantal system, that involved such harsh punishments, has been done away with. We are under a new covenant. Jesus said in Luke 22:20, "This cup which is poured out for you is the new covenant in My blood."

This new covenant was prophecied in the Old Testament in Jer. 31:31, “Behold, days are coming,” declares the Lord, “when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah." It is referenced in 1 Cor. 11:25, 2 Cor. 3:6, Heb. 8:8, 9:15; and 12:24.

Of particular importance to our topic is Heb. 8:13 which says, "When He said, 'A new covenant,' He has made the first obsolete. But whatever is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to disappear." The Old Covenant with its harsh judicial judgments is no longer in effect because we are under a New Covenant.

Part of the reason the Old Testament covenantal system was so harsh is because first, the Old Testament law demonstrates the severity of righteousness and the requirement of perfection before a holy God. Galatians 3:24 says that the law is what points us to Christ. It does this by showing us that we are not able to keep the law and that the only way of obtaining righteousness before God is through the sacrifice of Jesus, who was God in flesh (John 1:1,14; Col. 2:9).

Second, the Old Testament times were very difficult and there were many nations that warred against Israel. Also, the devil and his demonic horde was constantly working to destroy Israel in order to invalidate the prophecies of the coming Messiah, to therefore prevent the Messiah from being born and delivering his people. Therefore, God instituted laws, as difficult as they were, that were consistent with the culture of the times, that ensured the survival of the Jewish nation, that helped to maintain social structure, and also reflected the harshness of the law.

The New Testament covenantal system says that we are to "be at peace with one another," (Mark 9:50) and "with all men," (Rom. 12:18). Rom. 14:19 says, "pursue the things which make for peace and the building up of one another." After all, "God has called us to peace," (1 Cor. 7:15).

However, this does not mean that we are to approve of such sins as homosexuality, adultery, lying, and stealing. We are to not participate in the sins of the world. Instead, we are to avoid them. We are not to be violent to anyone since the old theonomic, covenantal system has been done away with (Heb. 8:13). Instead, we are to be kind to them (2 Tim. 2:24-25) and show them love (1 Cor. 16:14; 2 Cor. 5:14). But the moral condemnation of immorality still stands -- as is clearly taught in 1 Cor. 6:9-10 and Rom. 1:26-28.

So, the reason Christians are not obligated to stone homosexuals, disobedient children, and adulterers, is because we're no longer underneath the Old Testament covenantal system. It has been fulfilled and done away with (Heb. 8:13).

http://carm.org/why-do-christians-not-obey-old-testaments-commands-to-kill-homosexuals

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I only speak for myself. A relationship with God is a personal one. My convictions are my own based upon my own understanding of the Scriptures.

The Scriptures in the Holy Bible are very clear in regards to Homosexuality.

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"I want to take this opportunity to mention how thankful I am for an Obama re-election. The choice was clear. We cannot live in a country that treats homosexuals and women as second class citizens. Homosexuals deserve all of the rights and benefits of marriage that heterosexuals receive. Women deserve to be treated with respect and their salaries should not depend on their gender, but their quality of work. I am also thankful that the great, progressive state of California once again voted for the correct President. America is moving forward, and the direction is a positive one."

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Then perhaps you should post accordingly, rather than coming across as if your word is scripture.

I know you didn't ask but it was your arrogance that had me peg you for a Baptist, you folks are always tripping over your tongues.

I wasn't aware that I was coming across as anything but someone that has read the Bible. My opinions are my own Take them for what you will.

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No. That is not what happened. The Jim Henson Foundation pulled the toys. As an attempt to cover up, a few days after the toys were pulled they claimed it was for safety issues, even though the toys had been safety tested.

Now kids are being made fat by Chick-Fil-A because a person made a stupid statement, lied about the toys being withdrawn and then tried to cover it up. None of these actions are the actions of good Christian people, these are the actions of an embarrassed corporation.

disney is making kids fat then. they cut the partnership. cfa had safety concerns w/ the toys...i'm going to give the evil christians some more money. see you in 1 hour.

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The Scriptures in the Holy Bible are very clear in regards to Homosexuality.

And so was Shakespeare... The lady doth protests too much methinks...

What does the Holy Bible say about homophobia? Is it also an abomination?

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The Scriptures in the Holy Bible are very clear in regards to Homosexuality.

Perhaps we should heed all the Old Testament has to say, you think?

Deut. 18:20-22 (NIV) "A prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded him to say, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, must be put to death. You may say to yourselves, 'How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the Lord?' If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the Lord does not take place or come true, that is a message the Lord has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously..."
 

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