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[mybackpages 0]

Why do we think the state has the power to determine who lives and who dies anyway?

I dont think is the State...

I believe it's a jury and a judge who applies the penalty... am I wrong?

who determines the qualifications for death penalty eligible crimes? who decides it is an appropriate punushment in te first place? Who sets the rules for jurys? The state. And when the jury and judge take action, it is on behalf of the state.

But there has to be some punishment, and someone has to set the terms of this punishments!

Who if not the State would be entittled to that?

The state is entitled to determine punishment, but the taking of a life as punishment is crossing a line especially when there is so much evidence that the death penalty is not fairly and equzally applied across the board.

[mawilson 2,133]

Anyway, the way some ppl cannot understand the death penalty, I cannot understand other deaths like abortion. How women let themselves go into believing it is ok to get rid of a life growing inside of them, I will never understand.

I can understand it. If something was growing inside of me, I'd get rid of it too.

[rclouse 0]

I can understand it. If something was growing inside of me, I'd get rid of it too.

FTW!

[mybackpages 0]

I'd rather be opposed to both the death penalty and abortion.

Now that's a consistent stand that I can respect even if I will disagree with you a little bit.

[Mags 112]

I think for families who have suffered a rape+murder of a child or any relative are not satisfied in a weird twisted way if the killer gets the death sentence, but it's more of a relief to know he won't be able to do it to anyone else ever again. They won't have to worry about his existence in this world anymore.

I'd rather the killer spent a life time locked up with NO priviledges and made to do hard, physical labour every day for the rest of his natural.

There are pyramids to build.

Well like I said, I am not 100% on either side of the argument. But for someone who's family member was killed(not me! Just generally), knowing that person is still out there and that they could escape or be released too early would cause them stress for life.

If there truly was a hard physical labor punishment as an option, I'd support it. But you still can't be sure about escapees or those who fool the system.

Yes, there will be many who get away with cheating the system...but that happens already so they are out there right NOW. That will happen regardless of the punishment.

Escapees...well yes. It does happen. But isn't it easier to deal with an escapee (as a down side) rather than pardon someone who has been executed wrongly?

Anyway, the way some ppl cannot understand the death penalty, I cannot understand other deaths like abortion. How women let themselves go into believing it is ok to get rid of a life growing inside of them, I will never understand.

I personally only agree with abortion if there is a medical problem that would affect the quality of life of the child. Abortion as contraception.....

So, in a way I disagree with both abortion and the death penalty just like Stina said in her later post.

Edited October 20, 2006 by mags

[rob&ana 0]

I guess it's true...

There is a double standard regarding abortions and regarding death penalties. Like mybackpages said, the laws are not equally applied across the board. Because depending on the mounstrosity of the crime people definitely is more in favor or not on the death penalty. And regarding the condition in which an abortion is committed, people tend to excuse or not the act.

Sometimes when I see children that are not tendered to appropriately, I think, why didnt she just had an abortion, why bring a child to this world to suffer these conditions. But then I realize, the problem should've been prevented.

Coming from a country where there is a lot of poverty, and where in poor communities, women crowd themselves with children from different fathers, and then watching how these women cant provide for these children (in some cases 7 or 8 children) and the fathers are no where to be seen, I've thought about it.

But then I've though, it's an education problem. We have to teach them that they dont need to give birth from every man they bring to their lives, that there are ways to prevent pregnancy, and the State should be playing a big role there.

But this is not a perfect world... and hence the imperfect situations in it.

[isleta521 5]

In Singapore you get a piece of paper when you enter. Paraphrasing it basicly says "Welcome to Singapore, The penalty for drug trafficking is death". I dont believe in executing drug trafficers in general but then again I do not think the drug problem is that bad over there. Just my guess with nothing more to back my statement up.

[rob&ana 0]

In Singapore you get a piece of paper when you enter. Paraphrasing it basicly says "Welcome to Singapore, The penalty for drug trafficking is death". I dont believe in executing drug trafficers in general but then again I do not think the drug problem is that bad over there. Just my guess with nothing more to back my statement up.

Dont they execute the child molesters too?

Or where is it that they die by execution??

I can remember that old rocker that was in danger of execution, but cant remember his name or the country!!!

[one...two...tree 2,762]

I think for families who have suffered a rape+murder of a child or any relative are not satisfied in a weird twisted way if the killer gets the death sentence, but it's more of a relief to know he won't be able to do it to anyone else ever again. They won't have to worry about his existence in this world anymore.

I have mixed feelings about the death penalty but I do believe in justice. I do not believe bringing ppl to justice makes you as bad as those who have committed the crimes. The law and government in these cases are there to deal out repercussions to those who decide to commit these murders. The people personally affected do not usually go out and hunt down the person who murdered their family---it is dealt with by the government. It is not a personal issue but a societal issue in that case. I do not think it is barbaric to give justice to those who deserve justice.

I can respect that. Well said. I don't agree with capital punishment, but your argument is valid.

[babybunny 2]

I think for families who have suffered a rape+murder of a child or any relative are not satisfied in a weird twisted way if the killer gets the death sentence, but it's more of a relief to know he won't be able to do it to anyone else ever again. They won't have to worry about his existence in this world anymore.

I have mixed feelings about the death penalty but I do believe in justice. I do not believe bringing ppl to justice makes you as bad as those who have committed the crimes. The law and government in these cases are there to deal out repercussions to those who decide to commit these murders. The people personally affected do not usually go out and hunt down the person who murdered their family---it is dealt with by the government. It is not a personal issue but a societal issue in that case. I do not think it is barbaric to give justice to those who deserve justice.

if my attacker was KILLED I would have been 100% satisfied with their death. I would not give a chittt what the hell his family thought! I dont have mixed feelings about the death penalty.

[rob&ana 0]

I think for families who have suffered a rape+murder of a child or any relative are not satisfied in a weird twisted way if the killer gets the death sentence, but it's more of a relief to know he won't be able to do it to anyone else ever again. They won't have to worry about his existence in this world anymore.

I have mixed feelings about the death penalty but I do believe in justice. I do not believe bringing ppl to justice makes you as bad as those who have committed the crimes. The law and government in these cases are there to deal out repercussions to those who decide to commit these murders. The people personally affected do not usually go out and hunt down the person who murdered their family---it is dealt with by the government. It is not a personal issue but a societal issue in that case. I do not think it is barbaric to give justice to those who deserve justice.

if my attacker was KILLED I would have been 100% satisfied with their death. I would not give a chittt what the hell his family thought! I dont have mixed feelings about the death penalty.

I dont think they are referring to the attacker's family... I think it's about the victim's family...

[chri'stina 190]

I think for families who have suffered a rape+murder of a child or any relative are not satisfied in a weird twisted way if the killer gets the death sentence, but it's more of a relief to know he won't be able to do it to anyone else ever again. They won't have to worry about his existence in this world anymore.

I have mixed feelings about the death penalty but I do believe in justice. I do not believe bringing ppl to justice makes you as bad as those who have committed the crimes. The law and government in these cases are there to deal out repercussions to those who decide to commit these murders. The people personally affected do not usually go out and hunt down the person who murdered their family---it is dealt with by the government. It is not a personal issue but a societal issue in that case. I do not think it is barbaric to give justice to those who deserve justice.

if my attacker was KILLED I would have been 100% satisfied with their death. I would not give a chittt what the hell his family thought! I dont have mixed feelings about the death penalty.

As ana already answered, I was referring to the victim's family. Not the attacker's family.

[Carol&Marc 0]

steve said,

Why? Is there some sort of perverted satisfaction in being barbaric to barbarians? If someone spits in your face, would you feel good about yourself to do it back? In that case, you are letting others dictate your behavior.

If someone spat on me, hmmmmm! Right cross then a left hook! or no no that wouldnt be right! how

about running away crying!

Steve what would you do if someone spat on Jinky?

Edited October 20, 2006 by Carol&Marc

[mybackpages 0]

if my attacker was KILLED I would have been 100% satisfied with their death. I would not give a chittt what the hell his family thought! I dont have mixed feelings about the death penalty.

Sometimes the victims family is opposed to the death penalty, but the victim's family doesn;t get to choose what is the appropriate punishment if they are for or against the death penalty. There is a logic behind this.

[Mags 112]

if my attacker was KILLED I would have been 100% satisfied with their death. I would not give a chittt what the hell his family thought! I dont have mixed feelings about the death penalty.

Sometimes the victims family is opposed to the death penalty, but the victim's family doesn;t get to choose what is the appropriate punishment if they are for or against the death penalty. There is a logic behind this.

In some countries I think you can choose actually. Not sure what ones though. I think they can ask to have the death penalty deferred to life instead. This a shaky memory of something once read somewhere...so sorry I can't recall much more.

Edited October 20, 2006 by mags