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The answer is so obvious.

-natural law prevents it as a basis of family formation.

-World history and thousands of years of successful western history have demonstrated which model produces the best results for a sane stable society.

There are plenty of third world, stuck in the stone age countries, that only allow marriage between a man and a woman, or think it's primary purpose is to birth children. I'd rather live in the westernized world that's moved beyond that thinking.

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So if a marriage cannot form a family, it is not recognized?

Plenty of countries allow it and they're doing just fine.

- Societies are not formed on "exceptions" which comply with traditions to maintain their those foundations.

- Hitler was running Germany "just fine" to. The results of social change take decades for the seed to bear fruit. As it is one might suggest if you made a list of cultures which have embraced the Homosexual model, very few are not in a population death spiral (not due to Gays but due to their over all disfunction on social order).

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So to sum it up, you want to deny equal rights to homosexuals because you think it's good for society.

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There are plenty of third world, stuck in the stone age countries, that only allow marriage between a man and a woman, or think it's primary purpose is to birth children. I'd rather live in the westernized world that's moved beyond that thinking.

Certainly normal natural pairing of couples is not the sole determination of the appeal of a country but name me some of those countries you admire so and I will show you why in a few decades why will be extinct.

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- Societies are not formed on "exceptions" which comply with traditions to maintain their those foundations.

- Hitler was running Germany "just fine" to. The results of social change take decades for the seed to bear fruit. As it is one might suggest if you made a list of cultures which have embraced the Homosexual model, very few are not in a population death spiral (not due to Gays but due to their over all disfunction on social order).

I'd love to see that list.

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- Societies are not formed on "exceptions" which comply with traditions to maintain their those foundations.

- Hitler was running Germany "just fine" to. The results of social change take decades for the seed to bear fruit. As it is one might suggest if you made a list of cultures which have embraced the Homosexual model, very few are not in a population death spiral (not due to Gays but due to their over all disfunction on social order).

Prove it.

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So to sum it up, you want to deny equal rights to homosexuals because you think it's good for society.

Sodomy in my view has no more standing as a individual "right" than polygamy. or group sex or any other expression.

Why do some forms of the sex-act get the "Rights" blessing and others don't?

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Sodomy in my view has no more standing as a individual "right" than polygamy. or group sex or any other expression.

Why do some forms of the sex-act get the "Rights" blessing and others don't?

Marriage is a little more than a sex act, no?

If two men want to legally marry, spend the rest of their lives together, receive the same benefits that a man and woman does ... what's it to you? What part of that will possible CRUMBLE SOCIETY AS WE KNOW IT?

You sound crazy.

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Prove it.

Prove what... name the countries you admire so and I will.

In fact the only way many of these countries are even able to function is because the harvest immigrants from parts of the world which reject the concepts you claim make a country better.

Marriage is a little more than a sex act, no?

If two men want to legally marry, spend the rest of their lives together, receive the same benefits that a man and woman does ... what's it to you? What part of that will possible CRUMBLE SOCIETY AS WE KNOW IT?

You sound crazy.

Using your logic..

If my neighbor beats his wife..... "Whats it to me"?

Why do you limit marriage to two people?

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Prove what... name the countries you admire so and I will.

In fact the only way many of these countries are even able to function is because the harvest immigrants from parts of the world which reject the concepts you claim make a country better.

Countries that allow same sex marriage:

Argentina

Belgium

Canada

Denmark

Iceland

Netherlands

Norway

Portugal

South Africa

Spain

Sweden

Please, tell me why they'll all be extinct. I can't wait to read it.

Using your logic..

If my neighbor beats his wife..... "Whats it to me"?

Why do you limit marriage to two people?

So to you, gay marriage is the same thing as child molestation, bestiality and now domestic abuse. Got it.

If three people want to get married and spend their lives together, I couldn't care less, either. Live and let live. If people are consenting adults, their choices are theirs to make.

You seem to be confused at the 'consenting adults' part. Don't know how else to put it for you.

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Sodomy in my view has no more standing as a individual "right" than polygamy. or group sex or any other expression.

Why do some forms of the sex-act get the "Rights" blessing and others don't?

I don't see what sex acts people enjoy has to do with denying gay people the right to marry.

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Prove what... name the countries you admire so and I will.

In fact the only way many of these countries are even able to function is because the harvest immigrants from parts of the world which reject the concepts you claim make a country better.

Using your logic..

If my neighbor beats his wife..... "Whats it to me"?

Why do you limit marriage to two people?

I don't. I think gay people should be allowed to practice polygamy in those places where it's legal for straight people.

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Canada
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Well, I'll say it again. I've never heard a compelling argument as to why same sex marriage should be against the law.

I still haven't.

I haven't seen any evidence that forward thinking nations crumble because of homosexuals. And I have things to do today, so I'll leave the rest of you to fight this out.

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Countries that allow same sex marriage:

Argentina

Belgium

Canada

Denmark

Iceland

Netherlands

Norway

Portugal

South Africa

Spain

Sweden

Please, tell me why they'll all be extinct. I can't wait to read it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_territories_by_fertility_rate

How many countries on your list are even making enough children to keep the place going?

Note replacement level is like 2.1 children per female.

Even with mass immigration they are in severe population decline some are in a death spiral which experts say they can not recover. (when a child is supporting 2 parents and 4 grand parents they are not likely to have many kids)

Maybe you do better with pictures.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Countriesbyfertilityrate.svg

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