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PLease tell me any basis in Marriage law which would not be discriminatory to someone?

THE ONLY DIFFERENCE between me and you is I admit MArriage should be discriminatory...... by it's very purpose and function it must be or... WHY BOTHER?

Why do you get to decide what the purpose and function of my marriage is?

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Maybe we, as a society, place too much importance on marriage. That's a different subject,in my opinion.

But as long as we still have such a thing as marriage, I don't see how we can say that only straight people are entitled to do it.

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Russia
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Why do you get to decide what the purpose and function of my marriage is?

MAybe you think I am older than the facts bear out?

This function and definition of marriage was around with minor variation long before you and I or this country was ever thought of.

IF "I" along could decide we would not need all this discussion. I would look as see what institutions historically have worked to elevate nations and which ones left their people on the woodland floor.

You want to experiment without providing one example of a long term model of such social order.

Very reckless.

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Maybe we, as a society, place too much importance on marriage. That's a different subject,in my opinion.

But as long as we still have such a thing as marriage, I don't see how we can say that only straight people are entitled to do it.

Isn't it a value judgment?

At one time the consensus culture was that interracial marriage was a no-no.

That changed slowly and eventually a critical mass of pro-interracial marriage people existed and the laws changed. It was disruptive but it only happened because the cultural change necessary to make it happen had already occurred to a sufficient extent.

The same is true for gay marriage today. There is a cultural shift underway and Danno is stuck on the old side of this shift. One day, critical mass will be achieved in this country and gay marriage will become just part of the marriage landscape the way interracial marriage is today.

One wonders what the next cultural shift will be.

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Isn't it a value judgment?

At one time the consensus culture was that interracial marriage was a no-no.

That changed slowly and eventually a critical mass of pro-interracial marriage people existed and the laws changed. It was disruptive but it only happened because the cultural change necessary to make it happen had already occurred to a sufficient extent.

The same is true for gay marriage today. There is a cultural shift underway and Danno is stuck on the old side of this shift. One day, critical mass will be achieved in this country and gay marriage will become just part of the marriage landscape the way interracial marriage is today.

One wonders what the next cultural shift will be.

I can't wait for that day, to be honest. You'd think people would find better, more important things to worry about.

Nations progress, people. They change with the times. It's 2012 and not everyone is comfortable living in the "olden days" anymore ... embrace it, or learn to deal with it. :)

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:lol: Hilarious that people are rallying around a fast food chain. Not surprising, but hilarious.

I never even hear about this story anymore other than on VJ.

Please to sign up for RSS News Feeds on your favorite GLBT web portal, and you can 'hear' more.

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MAybe you think I am older than the facts bear out?

This function and definition of marriage was around with minor variation long before you and I or this country was ever thought of.

IF "I" along could decide we would not need all this discussion. I would look as see what institutions historically have worked to elevate nations and which ones left their people on the woodland floor.

You want to experiment without providing one example of a long term model of such social order.

Very reckless.

I'll be honest. I'm having trouble following what you're saying.

But I don't really care what the "function and definition" of marriage was in 1800. We've come a long way since then, thank goodness. I wouldn't want to go backwards.

We generally agree in this country that discrimination based on sexual orientation is wrong. Why should marriage be any different?

I'll say again, I haven't heard one compelling reason why gay people should not be allowed to get married.

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I'll say again, I haven't heard one compelling reason why gay people should not be allowed to get married.

*insert some random, BS comment about the Bible here*

That's about it.

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I can't wait for that day, to be honest. You'd think people would find better, more important things to worry about.

Nations progress, people. They change with the times. It's 2012 and not everyone is comfortable living in the "olden days" anymore ... embrace it, or learn to deal with it. :)

I don't know about you but I embrace it every April 15 and every time I pay my property tax..... a huge amount goes to support "non traditional" families.

How many single mothers actually pay into the IRS at the end of the year?

Other than tattoos being the child of a single parent is the greatest predictor of who goes to jail.

When it comes to AIDS research and treatment take a guess how much money has been sucked out of my pockets and out of the budgets of other health issues?

You want to experiment with other models.... got news for you, we would not be the first to go down that road, we would be the first to have a happy ending.

Societies can tolerate things out on the margins... when you up hold these things as "equal to" ..... your doomed as your foundations give way.

As you kick away the foundations on which we stand......be prepared to learn why they were put there.

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Other than tattoos being the child of a single parent is the greatest predictor of who goes to jail.

I have no idea what tangent you're going off on right now.

What do single parents have to do with gay marriage?

Societies can tolerate things out on the margins... when you up hold these things as "equal to" ..... your doomed as your foundations give way.

There are plenty of countries that allow gay marriage and aren't crumbling to pieces because of it. Shocking.

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Canada
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I don't know about you but I embrace it every April 15 and every time I pay my property tax..... a huge amount goes to support "non traditional" families.

How many single mothers actually pay into the IRS at the end of the year?

Other than tattoos being the child of a single parent is the greatest predictor of who goes to jail.

When it comes to AIDS research and treatment take a guess how much money has been sucked out of my pockets and out of the budgets of other health issues?

You want to experiment with other models.... got news for you, we would not be the first to go down that road, we would be the first to have a happy ending.

Societies can tolerate things out on the margins... when you up hold these things as "equal to" ..... your doomed as your foundations give way.

As you kick away the foundations on which we stand......be prepared to learn why they were put there.

I never "hang out" in the politics section, so forgive me if yours are well known here and I'm not familiar with them.

Are you suggesting that single mothers shouldn't be allowed to exist for the good of society?

And do you think AIDS is a "gay" disease?

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But ... I don't want to hear more. And I don't have a "GLBT web portal" anyway!

If you'd like to invest in such, let me know ;)

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I have no idea what tangent you're going off on right now.

What do single parents have to do with gay marriage?

There are plenty of countries that allow gay marriage and aren't crumbling to pieces because of it. Shocking.

They are the ones rolling their eyes and giggling at us for being too conservative.

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People who have no interest in having kids and making a family (for what ever reason) (in a saner time) have always gotten married to honor marriage. and of course to live respectably.

For and older couple to shack-up would be an act of degrading proper social living arraignment.

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The same argument can be used for same-sex couples.

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