Why Obama's College Records Matter

[lostinblue 1,989]

July 17, 2012

Why Obama's College Records Matter

By Monte Kuligowski

In context of the "mounting pressure" for Mitt Romney to provide more tax and employment records, a reporter recently asked White House Press Secretary Jay Carney whether President Obama would set an example in transparency and release some of his records that critics have asked for.

That question was fingernails on the chalkboard to Carney. "Is that from Donald Trump?" Carey sneered, and laughed -- this time conspicuously alone.

This time it was Carney's own boss who had recently opened the door by demanding that Romney be an "open book" on personal finances.

Carney responded with the audacious claim that Obama is an "open book" and has a record of "unprecedented transparency." And the sky is green, and the grass is blue. Carney also suggested that the question wasn't specific.

When the reporter got specific and asked if Obama would release his college records, Carney replied: "Right, this is the Donald Trump question. It is preposterous. This is from the guy who insisted he didn't believe the president was born in the United States."

Asking for college records is preposterous?

Writing for the TheBlaze.com, Jason Howerton suggests:

Carney was obviously trying to lump those who are interested to see what types of college courses Obama took in college into the same category as 'birthers.' However, many who want to see the president's college transcripts say wanting to see the president's transcripts has nothing to do with his citizenship. Rather they argue it could help provide insight into the types of courses Obama sought out while in college, which some believe promoted radical ideologies.

Yes, many want to see Obama's college records for grades and courses (as with G.W. Bush and others). But in Obama's case, the primary reason to see his college applications is to learn whether the president applied for college in the U.S. as a foreign student.

Why should the public want to confirm that Obama did not register as a foreigner while not having the same concern for other candidates? Read on.

Most of the basic records of Barack Obama's past -- vital, hospital, medical, education, passport, draft registration, et al. -- are guarded as securely as the gold at Fort Knox. Notably, two documents -- elementary school and Selective Service registrations -- were obtained by independent citizens. And Breitbart.com independently obtained an interesting biographical brochure produced in 1991 by Obama's literary publicist.

The Associated Press (AP) was able to obtain a copy of Obama's elementary school registration from the Fransiskus Assisi School in Jakarta, Indonesia in 2007.

And Stephen Coffman, a retired Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent, obtained a copy of Obama's Selective Service registration form via a FOIA request just days prior to the 2008 election.

From the 2012 Breitbart discovery we learned that Mr. Obama presented himself in 1991 as "born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii." From the AP discovery we learned that Barack Obama was registered for school in Jakarta as a citizen of Indonesia named Barry Soetoro. And from the Selective Service registration form we learned that the same form had been forged.

Barack Obama lived in Islamic Indonesia as Barry Soetoro with his mother and stepfather, Lolo Soetoro, and attended school in Jakarta from ages 6 to 10. It's beyond amazing that the general public is not aware of that fact. Last Thanksgiving I was with my in-laws and was surprised to learn that they had never heard that Obama lived in Indonesia as Barry Soetoro. And they are not uneducated people.

The "mainstream" media do not want to touch those facts.

The big question is whether little Barry was adopted by his stepfather, who was a citizen of Indonesia. There is reason to believe that he was and that in order to have been enrolled in public school in Indonesia, Barry had to be a citizen. Aaron Klein of WND.com notes that "[a]fter attending the Assisi Primary School, Obama later was enrolled at SDN Menteng 1, an Indonesian public school."

That Obama might have been a citizen of Indonesia and later presented himself as a foreign student in the U.S. is no "birther" conspiracy theory. It's the gravamen of the college records question.

Let's stop right here and stipulate for the sake of argument that Barack Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii.

But even with the stipulation, we nevertheless have a major problem with Obama's records and staunch secrecy.

Of the few records that we have seen relating to Obama's past all are problematic and they point to a potential citizenship problem for Barack Hussein Obama II aka Barry Soetoro.

Mr. Obama's Arizona nemesis, Sheriff Joe Arpaio, is readily dismissed by the establishment press as a man with an ax to grind -- but his control-test findings have not been disproven.

Once again, the general public remains in the dark because the national one-voice media will not touch the story.

Sherriff Joe's law enforcement "posse" confirmed what a multitude of nonpartisan computer graphic experts have already known. The image Mr. Obama "released" on April 27, 2011 is a computer-generated forgery. Irrespective of Mr. Obama's Hawaii birth, for some reason Obama did not upload a certified copy of his birth certificate to the internet; neither is he allowing Hawaii to send certified paper copies to interested state election officials.

Since Obama was born in Hawaii, the question is: why the forgery? And why the continued secrecy?

Something is not right. I have speculated that Obama's secrecy over the birth certificate may have been a calculated diversion from the important constitutional requirement for presidential candidates to have been born with a natural, sole allegiance to the United States.

That could be partially correct. Additionally, Obama might be hiding an amendment to his birth certificate, reflecting his adoption by Lolo Soetoro.

Others have suggested that the reason for the forgery could be over a petty issue, such as his mother having signed the certificate with her maiden name. In other words, but for the secrecy and forgery, the birth certificate may be completely irrelevant.

Nevertheless, if Obama has a citizenship problem because of Indonesia, the rest of the oddities and secrecies begin to make sense.

Sheriff Joe's team found probable cause to conclude that Obama also forged his Selective Service registration form. The mismatched date stamp "80" instead of "1980" is evidence not only of forgery, but of a crude forgery.

Then there is the question of why is Obama using a Social Security number issued on application from Connecticut, a state in which he never lived.

If that's not a news story, what is? Romney's tax records?

In light of the few biographical documents we have seen so far, coupled with the bizarre secrecy of Obama, it might be a good idea for "pressure to mount" for Obama to produce his college records.

And while we're at it, what passport did Obama use for his college break to Islamic Pakistan in 1981?

Since Obama is an "open book," producing informative records shouldn't be a problem for him.

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/07/why_obamas_college_records_matter.html#ixzz21b8XgYAM

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

You birthers don't disappoint. Get more tin foil, man!

[JohnR! 5,495]

I think the lesson we need to learn is that we need a better vetting process for presidential candidates.

What best way to lead by example, then to insist Mitt Romney make his tax returns available to the American public?

[kytwell 179]

I think the lesson we need to learn is that we need a better vetting process for presidential candidates.

What best way to lead by example, then to insist Mitt Romney make his tax returns available to the American public?

2010's are available here.

2011 you will have by October 15.

[JohnR! 5,495]

2010's are available here.

2011 you will have by October 15.

The interest is on his earlier returns. IMHO he should release those so that he could dissipate once and for all the controversy about his involvement with Bain.

Edited July 25, 2012 by Gegel

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

I think the lesson we need to learn is that we need a better vetting process for presidential candidates.

What best way to lead by example, then to insist Mitt Romney make his tax returns available to the American public?

Funny thing is that the birthers think that the President's school records are on the same level as the financial disclosure. They're not. Simple as that.

Reading this birther article, it's so full of garbage it's not even funny. People don't know that Obama spent a few years of his childhood in Indonesia? Really? Any piece that discusses the President's upbringing clearly states that. **, look him up on wiki and it's right there. But then these birthers are so dumb they probably don't know what wiki is.

[JohnR! 5,495]

Funny thing is that the birthers think that the President's school records are on the same level as the financial disclosure. They're not. Simple as that.

Reading this birther article, it's so full of garbage it's not even funny. People don't know that Obama spent a few years of his childhood in Indonesia? Really? Any piece that discusses the President's upbringing clearly states that. **, look him up on wiki and it's right there. But then these birthers are so dumb they probably don't know what wiki is.

It is just downright hypocritical, to be more precise. But then again, you can't expect reason from birthers.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

2010's are available here.

2011 you will have by October 15.

What about 2009, 2008, 2007, etc.? Candidates for President have released several years worth of tax returns and have done so for decades now. It's a long standing tradition that none other than Mitt's own father started over four decades ago.

[SMOKE 1,426]

The interest is on his earlier returns. IMHO he should release those so that he could dissipate once and for all the controversy about his involvement with Bain.

they're only interest is from the left wing loons. the none obama minions of the world don't care what romney does or did with HIS money. we care what obama is doing with OUR money.

[JohnR! 5,495]

they're only interest is from the left wing loons. the none obama minions of the world don't care what romney does or did with HIS money. we care what obama is doing with OUR money.

I agree with you but fact remains that Romney was one of the loons who played into the birther cult, so he is reaping what he sowed. I wish he could release the tax returns he was asked so that he could put an end to this once and for all, similarly to the POUTS making his birth certificate available to the public despite the obvious lunacy associated with the birther cult.

[kytwell 179]

What about 2009, 2008, 2007, etc.? Candidates for President have released several years worth of tax returns and have done so for decades now. It's a long standing tradition that none other than Mitt's own father started over four decades ago.

Carter released only one, Reagan released only one and McCain two. IMHO if Romney released 30 years worth of returns, I don't believe it will make one bit of difference in who you or anyone else is voting for.

In addition Romney has been angling for the Presidency for nearly a decade. Do you think if there was issues they wouldn't have arisen by now, namely the IRS.

Edited July 25, 2012 by kytwell

[JohnR! 5,495]

Carter released only one, Reagan released only one and McCain two. IMHO if Romney released 30 years worth of returns, I don't believe it will make one bit of difference in who you or anyone else is voting for.

I beg to differ. There are many to whom it would make a big difference if Romney were to release his tax returns. In fact, I think it would be a magnificent coup if he did that. Remember that he is running on his business acumen, and keeping the tax returns secret does not bode well, as neither does filing for extensions. If he cant even manage his tax returns, how do you expect him to manage our country?

[kytwell 179]

If he cant even manage his tax returns, how do you expect him to manage our country?

There's nothing illegal or odd about filing an extension. 10 million others do it. And 2011 will be released by October 15, but the retort was "we" want years before that. Which is it? So even if you get all of those returns prior to 2010, the extension in 2011 still bodes bad then?

[JohnR! 5,495]

There's nothing illegal or odd about filing an extension. 10 million others do it. And 2011 will be released by October 15, but the retort was "we" want years before that. Which is it? So even if you get all of those returns prior to 2010, the extension in 2011 still bodes bad then?

I think one thing compounds the other. His secrecy about his previous tax returns and filing an extension on the very year he is running for president.

His planning seems bad and that I believe does not bode well. Knowing full well, that candidates for the presidential ticket go under intense scrutiny, his orders to his team of CPA should have been to have all taxes filed by the deadline, to ensure a spotless record before the American public.

IMHO it is just a matter of commonsense, more than anything else.

[rocks 494]

I think one thing compounds the other. His secrecy about his previous tax returns and filing an extension on the very year he is running for president.

His planning seems bad and that I believe does not bode well. Knowing full well, that candidates for the presidential ticket go under intense scrutiny, his orders to his team of CPA should have been to have all taxes filed by the deadline, to ensure a spotless record before the American public.

IMHO it is just a matter of commonsense, more than anything else.

He released 23 years of tax returns to McCain. Why can't we see those? He is hiding something.