Another case of Gun Control -Backfiring.

[Danno 1,228]

The best way to describe that situation would have been suicide IMO.

It very well may have been, I guess we have progressed past the days of "women and children get the life boats". We only take risk for those most closest to us.

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

It very well may have been, I guess we have progressed past the days of "women and children get the life boats". We only take risk for those most closest to us.

As much as I joke about suicide, I think banzai charges are a waste of resources.

[Harsh_77 718]

The gunman wouldn't have given a few thoughts, he was intent on killing people. You constantly bring up cases that bare no relevance on anything to back up your argument. Do I need to repeat this for you? It was dark, there was gas in the room so that people couldn't see. "he was dressed in black, outfitted in a gas mask, ballistic helmet, vest and leggings, black tactical gloves and protectors on his throat and groin. He was armed with an assault-style rifle, a shotgun and Glock handgun."

No concealed weapon would have helped. This is a stupid argument.

Rocks - you bring some wackiest idea and try promote your socialist idea all the time, does that mean you are correct every time? Don't think so.

Having the laws like Aurora where no one other than police can discharge a weapon other than gun range are stupid and just discouraging ppl.

Some in corridor could had shot back at the gunman there are still open areas like legs and hands that could be shot at.

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

Some in corridor could had shot back at the gunman there are still open areas like legs and hands that could be shot at.

I think the guy was a walking tank, with leggings, gloves, and a throat guard.

[Harsh_77 718]

I'm saying nobody knows if it would have helped or not. Like I said, either the shooter gets shot or more innocent victims get shot. Some survivors stated they couldn't even see the shooter. That's a pretty scary situation for the carrier of the concealed weapon, no?

It may have helped. It may not have. Nobody knows for sure, yet the pro-concealed carry people seem to think it's a fact that lives would have been saved.

It's all speculation.

Exactly its all speculation coz the anti gun lobby keeps on promoting that guns should be taken away from citizen and only government should own the guns.

Same way every pro gun owner tries to prove their case the more guns in citizens hands can be helpful as well.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

Some in corridor could had shot back at the gunman there are still open areas like legs and hands that could be shot at.

Oh, so you were there?

[Danno 1,228]

I think the guy was a walking tank, with leggings, gloves, and a throat guard.

-Covering fire seldom hits a target, the purpose is it allows others to maneuver.... in this case toward an exit.

-Shooting from one isle to the other is not very far, and a headshot is well within the possibility of even an average shooter. Even if the shots missed completely it causes the perp to go from calmly walking and shooting people to now taking cover or being distracted which allows others to exit.

Granted there is no good way to hinder if not stop the madman but it is hard to imagine a more readily available means than fire power.

In fact, the very first person called and sought after is the police for no other reason than they have guns too.

[Ban Hammer 13,340]

I think the guy was a walking tank, with leggings, gloves, and a throat guard.

sounds like a similar situation in cali about what, 10 years ago, with a bank robbery?

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

-Covering fire seldom hits a target, the purpose is it allows others to maneuver.... in this case toward an exit.

-Shooting from one isle to the other is not very far, and a headshot is well within the possibility of even an average shooter. Even if the shots missed completely it causes the perp to go from calmly walking and shooting people to now taking cover or being distracted which allows others to exit.

Granted there is no good way to hinder if not stop the madman but it is hard to imagine a more readily available means than fire power.

In fact, the very first person called and sought after is the police for no other reason than they have guns too.

Thats great. You provide cover fire for about 3 seconds, then your dead, and he's back to his attack (btw...you need not just a head shot but a face shot)

Edited July 23, 2012 by Sousuke

[Karee 4,190]

sounds like a similar situation in cali about what, 10 years ago, with a bank robbery?

Yep. Bank of America.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Hollywood_shootout

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

By the way, if you want to talk hypotheticals... this would have never occurred in California like it did in CO due to state law.

[Danno 1,228]

By the way, if you want to talk hypotheticals... this would have never occurred in California like it did in CO due to state law.

What law are you referring to? And what would stop you from doing the same thing next month in LA?

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

What law are you referring to? And what would stop you from doing the same thing next month in LA?

Building codes. Those doors he used for access would have had an alarm tied to them.

[rocks 494]

Rocks - you bring some wackiest idea and try promote your socialist idea all the time, does that mean you are correct every time? Don't think so.

Keep your personal insults to yourself. Do not call me a socialist or "wacky". Grow up and talk like an adult.

If you are unable to converse without insulting people, don't bother trying to give your opinion.

[Danno 1,228]

Building codes. Those doors he used for access would have had an alarm tied to them.

Are you serious?

Like that was the only plan one could devise to pull off something like that.

Box cutters brought down the towers my friend.... box cutters.