I wonder if there a list of accepted and denied visas/interview

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I am wondering if there a chart for accepted and denied visas/interview. We do have a option it a time line to put approved/denied application. I was hoping it can be reflected some where...

[Anh map 2,098]

What are you hoping to learn from this information if you find it? Don't forget, VJ members are only a small sample of those seeking family based visas.

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Even with small amount of information the percentage wise it will be same.

As example Let say I would like to apply to K1 or CR1 but when you look at statistics you might consider apply for visa with highest success rate. Also knowing your chances also nice. Like apply for tourist visa you can see in what countries it might be more successful.

All the data already here why not show it or let me rephrase why collect something that you do not use?

[VanessaTony 3,567]

Even with small amount of information the percentage wise it will be same.

As example Let say I would like to apply to K1 or CR1 but when you look at statistics you might consider apply for visa with highest success rate. Also knowing your chances also nice. Like apply for tourist visa you can see in what countries it might be more successful.

All the data already here why not show it or let me rephrase why collect something that you do not use?

It's for timeline reasons, not for data reasons.

Also, just because someone is denied doesn't mean a particular visa is less successful. They could have filed the paperwork incorrectly and their relationship could be fake. Just because someone is approved doesn't mean it's more successful. It also depends on a particular country. it might be interest to see it in terms of country statistics, but it shouldn't affect your decision for what to apply for and what not to apply for. A valid relationship will be able to overcome any difficulty or denial with time. People should investigate the visa options and determine what is better for you and your situation.

[GlobeHopperMama 95]

The reasons for immigrant visa denial are not generally arbitrary. Using approved/denied statistics alone to decide which visa to pursue isn't probably going to be too helpful. In general, the visa will be approved as long as all conditions are met and the intending immigrant has no inadmissibilities. For a list of the inadmissibilities that lead to denial for an IMMIGRANT visa, see this link:

http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/ineligibilities/ineligibilities_1364.html#visa

If any of those areas presents a problem, the visa will be denied, or sometimes a 221(g) will be invoked and the applicant will be given a refusal document explaining that evidence or a document is insufficient and that they must supply the necessary evidence to continue with the visa process.

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Make your visa choice based on what works for your life. All family based petitions carry the burden to prove that it is a legitimate relationship. Also, the "standards" are different in some embassies compared to others. Statistics won't help you with that.

[Rebecca Jo 1,962]

What are you hoping to learn from this information if you find it? Don't forget, VJ members are only a small sample of those seeking family based visas.

Gee, we could apply that logic to all the statistics on VJ, couldn't we?

Make your visa choice based on what works for your life. All family based petitions carry the burden to prove that it is a legitimate relationship. Also, the "standards" are different in some embassies compared to others. Statistics won't help you with that.

Why wouldn't it?

You don't think a higher negative number would help rookies realize there is a higher hurdle to jump for successful case processing?

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If you people did not understand what i mean then I'll try say this: If you go to a doctor and doctor gonna give your few options to treat your problem. If doctor will not tell you the success rate what you gonna do?

So in this situation statistics might help by not jumping in a lake. Let's say you go with CR1 and there is low success rate. Careful person will research more on CR1 and collect more information and proof. Like open joint bank account, rental and other stuff. It might sound silly but you will try get beyond and get even more evidence like get more pictures use CC instead of cash...etc

All statistics here is just food for thoughts and not bullet proof answers. Do not be like most "American" people who do not wanna change and scared of changes. As Example: Selling equipment with standard and metric bolts to Europe.

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[GlobeHopperMama 95]

I think what maybe isn't getting clearly communicated here is that the "success rate" of a particular visa route is entirely dependent on the individual, it's not really the unstandardized discretion of an adjudicator (MOST of the time). Using general statistics won't help because you don't know exactly why each of those people failed. You can't blame CR1s as a whole for being unsucessful, for example, when the reasons for denial vary from fraud and misrep or crimes in the person's past, to medical ineligibility, to insufficient financial sponsorship, to people just being really clueless about how to file, to people straight out lying to immigration, to perhaps those occasional situations where the applicants can't satisfy the interviewer that they are legitimately married. However, if you can't convince an adjudicator that you're legitimately married, then it's unlikely you can convince them that you're legitimately in a relationship for K1 either. All you can do is file the visa that matches your circumstances, gather all the proof, evidence, and documentation that is asked of you, and go from there. I've seen some statistics out there in the past, related to inadmissibility numbers for particular visas, but I can't find them right now, they're pretty old, and unless the beneficiary has a potential inadmissibilitiy, I don't think that would be helpful to you. In general, immigrant visa denial rates are incredibly low compared to the approval rates, and almost always tied to some big problem that the applicant should have known about before filing.

The analogy you just made actually sounds like what I would consider the process of talking to lawyers. You can talk to a trustworthy immigration lawyer ("doctor" in your analogy), lay out your case and whatever circumstances are making you think you may not be approved, and have them give you their perspective on what pitfalls or benefits might lie ahead with CR1 vs. K1, if you consider CR1 and K1 as medical procedure options to be decided upon. Then if you want another opinion, you can go to another lawyer and seek their opinion of what your "chances" are (which I usually only hear lawyers refer to in the context of people who are already inadmissible and need waivers or have complicating factors in their cases).

Not all lawyers are created equal, though. Do your research, and look into lawyers experienced with family-based filing in the particular consulate where you would be filing. Laura Fernandez and Lizz Cannon (linked in my signature) are both great lawyers with great experience at a lot of consulates who offer free consultations. Laurel Scott is one of the best in the industry, and although her consults are not free, she really has the most vast experience of almost any family-based immigration lawyer out there. I consider them very trustworthy people, and can personally vouch for them, but you can find a lot of others using the AILA website and other such resources.

Edited July 23, 2012 by GlobeHopperMama