The Rats are Bailing on Obama

[Obama 2012 1,714]

It took longer than 4 years and 1 President to get into this mess, so I'm wondering what exactly a new President (and apparently, it can be ANYONE other than Obama) will do.

There you go again, plain ignorance.

It actually took about 20-24 years and 3 1/2 Presidents to get us into this 'mess.'

It started with Reagan and certain appointees, Bush Sr helped it a long a little bit, and actually the final nail in the coffin happened during the last 2 years of the Clinton presidency.

The only thing that Bush Jr. is guilty of is sending spending through the roof, and not vetoing a single piece of legislation until the Dems took over in January of 2007. The makings of the "mess" we are in started long before then.

The demolition of the financial/insurance sector and the groundwork fro the booming of the derivatives market which eventually led to the crash of the housing market all happened prior to Bush taking office. You can't blame Clinton directly himself for the mess, but you sure as hell can his administration, especially with the likes of Robert Rubin and Larry Summers.

You wan to BLAME anyone for what's going on and why the economy collapsed, blame Reagan for appointing Alan Greenspan as the chairman of the Fed in the 80's. It all started right there.

Edited July 19, 2012 by Obama 2012

[JohnR! 5,495]

so where is the fiasco? the man has released all he is required to. the liberals can insinuate wrong doing all they want. there is nothing there.

eta: more smileys

I guess we will never know, considering the has failed to humor We The People, by showing his past tax returns....

[Dan J 277]

and Guantanamo still isn't closed.

Which was not due to a lack of will, congress didn't want to provide or accept any alternatives.

[JohnR! 5,495]

There you go again, plain ignorance.

It actually took about 20-24 years and 3 1/2 Presidents to get us into this 'mess.'

It started with Reagan and certain appointees, Bush Sr helped it a long a little bit, and actually the final nail in the coffin happened during the last 2 years of the Clinton presidency.

The only thing that Bush Jr. is guilty of is sending spending through the roof, and not vetoing a single piece of legislation until the Dems took over in January of 2007. The makings of the "mess" we are in started long before then.

The demolition of the financial/insurance sector and the groundwork fro the booming of the derivatives market which eventually led to the crash of the housing market all happened prior to Bush taking office. You can't blame Clinton directly himself for the mess, but you sure as hell can his administration, especially with the likes of Robert Rubin and Larry Summers.

You wan to BLAME anyone for what's going on and why the economy collapsed, blame Reagan for appointing Alan Greenspan as the chairman of the Fed in the 80's. It all started right there.

I would go one step further and really place the responsibility on those who put these presidents and politicians in power. It is time We The People start pretending the government and us aren't the same people....

Edited July 19, 2012 by Gegel

[JohnSmith2007 353]

I guess we will never know, considering the has failed to humor We The People, by showing his past tax returns....

Why should he give up any more than is required? Even if everything is above board and legal Obama will still use his success against him. Remember that Obama is running against success and for class hatred. It would only give his opposition more ammunition. I hope he doesn't give up one more page of tax returns.

Edited July 19, 2012 by JohnSmith2007

[SMOKE 1,426]

I guess we will never know, considering the has failed to humor We The People, by showing his past tax returns....

'We The People' haven't asked to see anything. the liberal media & obama's henchmen have.

'We The People' don't care what romney does with his money. we care what obama does with ours.

[Obama 2012 1,714]

I would go one step further and really place the responsibility on those who put these presidents and politicians in power. It is time We The People start pretending the government and us aren't the same people....

We're not the same. The American people haven't picked a President since JFK, and even before then it's arguable who we did and did not vote in.

There is an establishment in this country that the American people cannot touch. It's money, it's power, and it's something that the American sheeple will never overcome without even a slight revolution.

[JohnR! 5,495]

I hope he doesn't give up one more page of tax returns.

I don't think he will anyway. Transparency seems not to be one of his suits.

We're not the same.

Therein lies the rub. So long as we keep pretending they are them and we are us, we ain't going nowhere.

[JohnSmith2007 353]

I don't think he will anyway. Transparency seems not to be one of his suits.

Transparency, yeah Obama has been real transparent. I guess some people only want that when it is to their own benefit.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Transparency seems not to be one of his suits.

Now, who wants to see a naked geriatric running in a cellophane suit?

[JohnR! 5,495]

Transparency, yeah Obama has been real transparent. I guess some people only want that when it is to their own benefit.

You just made my point. Romney is no different than Obama.

Bummer! I would have expected the GOP to come up with someone better in four years...

[JohnSmith2007 353]

You just made my point. Romney is no different than Obama.

Bummer! I would have expected the GOP to come up with someone better in four years...

Oh he is very different from Obama. He just isn't into self destructive behavior to satisfy the oppositions request for more ammunition to be beaten up with.

[Ban Hammer 13,724]

Which was not due to a lack of will, congress didn't want to provide or accept any alternatives.

a lack of will on who's part?

[JohnR! 5,495]

Oh he is very different from Obama. He just isn't into self destructive behavior to satisfy the oppositions request for more ammunition to be beaten up with.

Which may indicate the missing tax returns may contain something which might speak against him....

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Oh he is very different from Obama. He just isn't into self destructive behavior to satisfy the oppositions request for more ammunition to be beaten up with.

He is not that different, which is why the Conservatives got behind him, because he might be electable. It's a shame, really. Principles don't count for anything, when you have to try to be everything to everybody, well, at least enough to get elected. Romney really is Obama without the extra baggage.