Right Wingers Selectively Edit Obama’s Speech To Claim He Hates Small Businesses

[mawilson 2,133]

But you didn't. You did it here, in the USA.

As I would have in the UK, France, Russia, Japan or wherever else I might have ended up.

The USA had very little to do with it. I brought my ambition with me, I didn't find it here.

[JohnR! 5,495]

As I would have in the UK, France, Russia, Japan or wherever else I might have ended up.

The USA had very little to do with it. I brought my ambition with me, I didn't find it here.

And yet, for some reason I don't think you 'ended up' here, so much as you came willingly and for a reason. Nobody goes through the immigration process in this country for nothing. There is always a reason to chase the rainbow.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Yes, I would have. Maybe not in a failed state like Somalia, but in any normal country - even China, Thailand, Greece or Russia - I would have.

So you agree that it takes a functioning state and public infrastructure - neither of which you create on your own - to translate hard work into wealth.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Oh noes! The Right Wingers said something about Obama!

[mawilson 2,133]

So you agree that it takes a functioning state and public infrastructure - neither of which you create on your own - to translate hard work into wealth.

So? All countries (save for a few cherry picked up hell holes) have infrastructure.

In far as the infrastructure goes, America has some of the worst in the developed world.

Roads with potholes so deep they can break axles and destroy tires. Bridges that

make me nervous when I walk under them or drive over them. There are potential

catastrophes everywhere you look.

And don't even get me started on education. A horrible public school system that is

puking out generations of ignoramuses onto society.

Yay for government.

If anything, businesses in America thrive IN SPITE of all that, not BECAUSE OF it.

[mawilson 2,133]

And yet, for some reason I don't think you 'ended up' here, so much as you came willingly and for a reason. Nobody goes through the immigration process in this country for nothing. There is always a reason to chase the rainbow.

Oh please. As if my life was so horrible in the UK that I had to "chase rainbows" across the pond.

It was an adventure to be sure, and an exciting one at that, but hardly my raison d'être.

And yes, I still think the US is a better place for business than the UK. But not for long, if Obama has his way.

[james&olya 1,121]

Government has no money of its own to spend.

Ah, but it does. It prints it!

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

If anything, businesses in America thrive IN SPITE of all that, not BECAUSE OF it.

Businesses in America were thriving when we did a good job in education - the US ranked pretty high at some point - and infrastructure - again, the US wasn't always in such disrepair. Then someone came around and said, ** all that - we need no stinkin' roads and bridges and schools. We need tax cuts and we need to starve that fcuking beast. It all went downhill from there.

[james&olya 1,121]

As I would have in the UK, France, Russia, Japan or wherever else I might have ended up.

The USA had very little to do with it. I brought my ambition with me, I didn't find it here.

And we are SO lucky you are here! Seriously!

[mawilson 2,133]

And we are SO lucky you are here! Seriously!

You better be. My education didn't cost you a dime and my tax dollars are paying for your food stamps.

I'm the best kind of immigrant any country could ever wish for.

[mawilson 2,133]

Businesses in America were thriving when we did a good job in education - the US ranked pretty high at some point - and infrastructure - again, the US wasn't always in such disrepair. Then someone came around and said, ** all that - we need no stinkin' roads and bridges and schools. We need tax cuts and we need to starve that fcuking beast. It all went downhill from there.

You do realize businesses existed thousands of years ago - before there was anything we'd consider "infrastructure" by today's standards?

In your home country, the Schloss Johannisberg winery was founded in 1100 and has been making wine for over 900 years.

The Faversham Oyster Fishery in England was founded in 1147.

Businesses exist in spite of governments and taxes and other hindrances. Always have, always will.

[mawilson 2,133]

Ah, but it does. It prints it!

Printing is stealing. When the government prints money, it devalues my savings, thus stealing from me.

[james&olya 1,121]

You better be. My education didn't cost you a dime and my tax dollars are paying for your food stamps.

I'm the best kind of immigrant any country could ever wish for.

[JohnR! 5,495]

Oh please. As if my life was so horrible in the UK that I had to "chase rainbows" across the pond.

It was an adventure to be sure, and an exciting one at that, but hardly my raison d'être.

And yes, I still think the US is a better place for business than the UK. But not for long, if Obama has his way.

It was just an observation, not a judgment call.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Government has no money of its own to spend. It spends our tax dollars.

This talk of government as if it is some kind of entirely separate, single entity, from the people it represents is a fallacy. We have a representational democracy. We have a Constitution that gives Congress the power to tax. We vote for members of Congress.

You can gripe all you want about what kind of expenditures Congress taxes us for, but to suggest they've taken our money or using our money without any real authority to do so, is anti-American. There are lot of things that our tax money goes to that I disagree with, but I'll never get the idea in my head that I've somehow been robbed or bamboozled because Congress is exercising its constitutional authority to levy taxes.

Edited July 17, 2012 by Mister Fancypants