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“There are religious groups that own radio stations, but they don’t also own cattle ranches. There are religious groups that own retreats, but they don’t also own insurance companies.”

~Ryan Cragun, a sociology professor at the University of Tampa

There is so much to dislike here. You’ve got a church that operates itself completely like a business. They market their business to others and sell you the benefits of their services. You have a required payment of at least 10% of your income to be a member and the church uses that estimated $8 billion in tithing each year to buy more businesses. The church is able to avoid paying all federal taxes and most state and local taxes on most of those businesses under protection of church tax laws. And to top all of that off … it’s estimated that they are using about .7% of all of their untold billions on “charity”. Seriously.

Well – at least we know that Mitt is just being a good Mormon every time he tries to avoid paying taxes with his offshore tax havens and lack of transparency on his earnings (source). Maybe this guy should run the church; he sounds tailor made.

Literally – only in America would a church like this be created. Every Mormon I’ve ever met was a genuinely awesome, decent and caring person. I can not differentiate between the insanity of the Mormon religion with that of the “religion” of Scientology. At what point can we just start calling it a cult?

Blockbuster article by Bloomberg HERE:

As a religious organization, the LDS Church enjoys several tax advantages. Like other churches, it is often exempt from paying taxes on the real estate properties it leases out, even to commercial entities, says tax lawyer David Miller, who is not Mormon. The church also doesn’t pay taxes on donated funds and holdings. Mitt Romney and others at Bain Capital, the private equity firm he co-founded in 1984, gave the Mormon Church millions’ worth of stock holdings obtained through Bain deals, according to Reuters. Between 1997 and 2009, these included $2 million in Burger King (
) and $1 million in Domino’s Pizza (
) shares. Under U.S. law, churches can legally turn around and sell donated stock without paying capital-gains taxes, a clear advantage for both donor and receiver.

According to U.S. law, religions have no obligation to open their books to the public, and the LDS Church officially stopped reporting any finances in the early 1960s. In 1997 an investigation by
Time
used cross-religious comparisons and internal information to estimate the church’s total value at $30 billion. The magazine also produced an estimate that $5 billion worth of tithing flows into the church annually, and that it owned at least $6 billion in stocks and bonds. The Mormon Church at the time said the estimates were grossly exaggerated, but a recent investigation by Reuters in collaboration with sociology professor Cragun
estimates that the LDS Church is likely worth $40 billion today and collects up to $8 billion in tithing each year
.

Even though the Mormon church has stopped providing transparency around it’s financial holdings and balance sheets … Bloomberg reports that the Mormon church owns at least the following businesses and many more:

  • $2 billion megamall in Salt Lake City
  • A Newspaper
  • 11 radio stations
  • A TV station
  • A publishing and distribution company
  • A digital media company
  • A hospitality business
  • An insurance business with assets worth $3.3 billion
  • 1 million acres in the continental U.S.
  • Properties in Britain, Canada, Australia, Mexico, Argentina, and Brazil worth untold hundreds of millions
  • 7,000 acres on Oahu
  • Malls
  • Parking lots
  • Office parks
  • Residential buildings
  • A 42-acre tropical theme park
  • A business college
  • 11,000 acre hunting preserve

And with ALL of this money … not only does it not have to be shared publicly despite it’s tax shelter status … even regular Mormons have no idea where this money is going. But it doesn’t seem to be going to charity work – according to Bloomberg:

A study co-written by Cragun and recently published in
Free Inquiry
estimates that the Mormon Church donates only about 0.7 percent of its annual income to charity
; the United Methodist Church gives about 29 percent.

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And only one person OWNS all of these unknown billions in businesses and corporations. Only one person is the sole shareholder with complete control of ALL these businesses. That person is the head of the Mormon Church - Thomas S. Monson. Mormons consider him to be a living prophet; myself – I consider him to be a living profit.

Andrew Sullivan chimes in HERE:

If you were to construct a religion as a business, it would be hard to beat the LDS Church. From its mandatory tithing for access to sacred Temples to its spiritual blessing on business and wealth accumulation and its tax-friendly admixture of for-profit and not-for-profit enterprises, it is the Prosperity Gospel with better accountants. And that makes it the quintessential religion for America – giving the New World a place in the Gospels, bringing the Garden of Eden to Missouri, and providing a divine blessing for American free enterprise. All it needs is a president of the United States to broaden its appeal in a fusion of faith and country. It’s been trying since Joseph Smith ran for the highest office in the land – not a typical path for a “spiritual” leader. Now, as the unofficial religion of American capitalism in its least regulated and most rapacious form, it has its chance.

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Mormons consider him to be a living prophet; myself – I consider him to be a living profit.

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IN my opinion, the less taxes paid the less funding for Liberal mischief.

It's always telling how Libs obsess more about what people "don't" pay in to the system... than what others "DO" take out of the system.

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IN my opinion, the less taxes paid the less funding for Liberal mischief.

It's always telling how Libs obsess more about what people "don't" pay in to the system... than what others "DO" take out of the system.

Rather like GE. The only difference being that Geoffrey Immelt is one of the 1% and one of the President's advisers.

Don't interrupt me when I'm talking to myself

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Rather like GE. The only difference being that Geoffrey Immelt is one of the 1% and one of the President's advisers.

There are numerous 1%r's that support the President -- the ones that can't seem to part with some of their money, unless everyone does the same thing at the same time at the behest of the government. However, the rest of the 1%r's seem to find worthy philanthropic endeavors, without the help of the stingy left, or the government.

Leftist Charities Snub Conservative Causes

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Rather like GE. The only difference being that Geoffrey Immelt is one of the 1% and one of the President's advisers.

GE is much the same as the Mormon church, just without religion.

I'll bet, however, that the Mormons have kept more jobs in the US.

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IN my opinion, the less taxes paid the less funding for Liberal mischief.

It's always telling how Libs obsess more about what people "don't" pay in to the system... than what others "DO" take out of the system.

The cost of subsidizing religious institutions with tax free income, no property taxes, and whatever other benefits they get totals $70 to $80 billion. About 1/2% of US GDP or 2X the entire GDP of Costa Rica in tax subsidies.

Food stamps at a cost of ~$80 billion is so terrible, literally feeding more than 46 million Americans.

Danno, think of the US as a giant church that helps the poor, disabled, and elderly about 50 million times greater than all churches put together ;)

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The cost of subsidizing religious institutions with tax free income, no property taxes, and whatever other benefits they get totals $70 to $80 billion. About 1/2% of US GDP or 2X the entire GDP of Costa Rica in tax subsidies.

Food stamps at a cost of ~$80 billion is so terrible, literally feeding more than 46 million Americans.

Danno, think of the US as a giant church that helps the poor, disabled, and elderly about 50 million times greater than all churches put together ;)

You're going to confuse him with all these facts. :whistle:

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IN my opinion, the less taxes paid the less funding for Liberal mischief.

It's always telling how Libs obsess more about what people "don't" pay in to the system... than what others "DO" take out of the system.

It sucks that in a democracy that your taxes will go to things you don't agree with. Maybe you would like to see an Iranian style government instituted here in the US?

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well, lets see how much monies the collection of Mormon-lead PACs pay into the Mitt Romney campaign ;)

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well, lets see how much monies the collection of Mormon-lead PACs pay into the Mitt Romney campaign ;)

Real conversation with my Mormon relatives:

Them: "Who do you like in this election."

Me: "It doesn't matter. There is no real difference between the two. Better the devil you know."

Them: "Well, Romney is a business man."

I don't have that many Mormon relatives, so I hesitate to generalize about Mormons beyond the ones I know.

Catholics are another story. I know lots of those. That seems to reflect the country, going about 50/50. Most Catholics I know plan on sitting out this election. My parish has completely gone communist and they all vote, so for enthusiasm, I give the edge to Obama.

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Tax breaks perhaps

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