Sandusky Sex Abuse Investigation Faults Paterno and Others at Penn State

[X Factor 1,112]

Punishing the guilty is one necessary step but I think we have seen this same urge to conceal this type of behavior time and time again in every institution.

Let's say a renowned Professor at Yale had knowledge of a criminal act as despicable as this one. It was reported to him by one of his assistants. He waits a few days before telling the Dean of Yale that one of the professors in the school was seen raping a young boy in the restroom. The Dean decides to keep the information sealed up to that group.

They allow the professor to keep an ongoing charity for children on Yale's grounds.

14 years later they're exposed. The famous law professor dies. The Dean of Yale is removed (along with many of the top officials). A committee above Yale sees that the school (department) will be punished. They take away the student's scholarships, along with events attended by the students and fans that grosses the school millions of dollars a year.

Does this bring any real justice for the victims, if the culprits aren't even the ones being punished -- instead just millions of fans and students?

[Danno 1,228]

Let's say a renowned Professor at Yale had knowledge of a criminal act as despicable as this one. It was reported to him by one of his assistants. He waits a few days before telling the Dean of Yale that one of the professors in the school was seen raping a young boy in the restroom. The Dean decides to keep the information sealed up to that group.

They allow the professor to keep an ongoing charity for children on Yale's grounds.

14 years later they're exposed. The famous law professor dies. The Dean of Yale is removed (along with many of the top officials). A committee above Yale sees that the school (department) will be punished. They take away the student's scholarships, along with events attended by the students and fans that grosses the school millions of dollars a year.

Does this bring any real justice for the victims, if the culprits aren't even the ones being punished -- instead just millions of fans and students?

I hear what you are saying but you are under the assumption that justice can be served without harming innocent people.

Most people in prison have a child not collecting child support and a father not around.

No one is held captive at that school, are they not free to enroll somewhere else?

[kytwell 179]

NCAA President Mark Emmert made the announcement Monday morning that the program would be hit a four-year postseason ban and a $60 million fine.

In addition, the school will be forced to cut 10 scholarships for this season and 20 scholarships for the following four years.

The school will be forced to vacate all wins from 1998-2011, a total of 112 victories.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/bigten/story/2012-07-23/ncaa-penn-state-punishment-sanctions/56427630/1

[Ban Hammer 13,590]

No one is held captive at that school, are they not free to enroll somewhere else?

i'm not sure you understand the power someone like sandusky held over his victims, and if the victim was under a scholarship, they'd be throwing away that scholarship and their shot at playing professionally.

[rocks 494]

US college sport authorities have fined Penn State University $60m (£39m) in the wake of child sex abuse perpetrated by a long-serving football coach.

The university - a famous US football school - will be banned from competing for honours for four years, and lose all wins from 1998-2011.

The National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) said the punishments were "corrective and punitive".

Penn State fined $60m over Jerry Sandusky sex abuse

[kytwell 179]

NCAA President Mark Emmert made the announcement Monday morning that the program would be hit a four-year postseason ban and a $60 million fine.

In addition, the school will be forced to cut 10 scholarships for this season and 20 scholarships for the following four years.

The school will be forced to vacate all wins from 1998-2011, a total of 112 victories.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/bigten/story/2012-07-23/ncaa-penn-state-punishment-sanctions/56427630/1

So with all the wins vacated from 98 on, that means that Mike McQueary was the last Penn State QB to earn a W for Joe Pa in 1997...

Next up I hope they investigate my Governor and see where he failed to act.

[rocks 494]

So with all the wins vacated from 98 on, that means that Mike McQueary was the last Penn State QB to earn a W for Joe Pa in 1997...

Next up I hope they investigate my Governor and see where he failed to act.

I want to know what happened to Ray Gricar.

[kytwell 179]

I want to know what happened to Ray Gricar.

That would be nice to know too.

My terrible Governor though was the AG before becoming Governor.

[rocks 494]

That would be nice to know too.

My terrible Governor though was the AG before becoming Governor.

His story has been puzzling me (and I'm sure many others) since I first found out about this case. There is something very suspicious about his disappearance and the missing hard drive.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

NCAA President Mark Emmert made the announcement Monday morning that the program would be hit a four-year postseason ban and a $60 million fine.

In addition, the school will be forced to cut 10 scholarships for this season and 20 scholarships for the following four years.

The school will be forced to vacate all wins from 1998-2011, a total of 112 victories.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/bigten/story/2012-07-23/ncaa-penn-state-punishment-sanctions/56427630/1

See that's exactly what I was getting at. I could understand if the $60 million went to victims of sexual abuse or something like that, but why screw those kids? The NCAA is a joke. Vacate wins and hose the kids who are playing ball for PSU atm? WTH do those kids have to do with some perv raping kids and coaches and school admins covering for him? Now these kids have be punished for what those criminals did years back. What a bummer.

Edited July 23, 2012 by Bad_Daddy

[kytwell 179]

See that's exactly what I was getting at. I could understand if the $60 million went to victims of sexual abuse or something like that, but why screw those kids? The NCAA is a joke. Vacate wins and hose the kids who are playing ball for PSU atm? WTH do those kids have to do with some perv raping kids and coaches and school admins covering for him? Now these kids have be punished for what those criminals did years back. What a bummer.

Agree on the kids and NCAA.

[rocks 494]

Agree on the kids and NCAA.

The people to blame are the college not the NCAA.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

The people to blame are the college not the NCAA.

You totally missed the point.

[rocks 494]

You totally missed the point.

I read what you said. You're mad with the NCAA because they're punishing the students. You should be mad with the people who let this happen, which resulted in the punishment of these students.

[kytwell 179]

The people to blame are the college not the NCAA.

One morally bankrupt organization punishing another...