The Rest of the Story....on California

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No wonder businesses and people are relocating to Texas.

Been there, done that. Ran back as quick as I could.

[rocks 494]

California has more folks on food stamps than any other state,

According to this article, California is not in the top 10 states for food stamps.

10 - South Carolina

09 - Maine

08 - West Virginia

07 - Kentucky

06 - Louisiana

05 - Michigan

04 - New Mexico

03 - Tennessee

02 - Oregon

01 - Mississippi

Most of them are republican states.

Edited July 12, 2012 by rocks

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

Been there, done that. Ran back as quick as I could.

A 2009 quote from Danno in your sig and you just joined this board less than two months ago. BTW Gowon hows your Visa Journey working out for ya?

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According to this article, California is not in the top 10 states for food stamps.

10 - South Carolina

09 - Maine

08 - West Virginia

07 - Kentucky

06 - Louisiana

05 - Michigan

04 - New Mexico

03 - Tennessee

02 - Oregon

01 - Mississippi

Most of them are republican states.

Over 3 million people on food stamps in CA. That's more than the total population of almost half of the states on the above list.

[Dan J 277]

Over 3 million people on food stamps in CA. That's more than the total population of almost half of the states on the above list.

In this case absolute numbers are misleading.

[rocks 494]

Over 3 million people on food stamps in CA. That's more than the total population of almost half of the states on the above list.

That doesn't mean anything, there are more people in CA. You need to use percentages to make your "fact" relevant. California is not in the top 10 for food stamps, so that point about how many are on it is irrelevant.

[JohnR! 5,495]

California is a one-party state dominated by a virulent Democrat Left enabled by a complicit media where every agency of local, county, and state government is run by and for the public employee unions. The unemployment rate is 12%.

The white paper cited by the OP is a good example of sophistry. The author begins with a premise which is not correct and then build your entire paper on that.

A list of governors of the State of California for the past 69 years is shown below, so if one were to say California is a one party state it would be a big misrepresentation of the truth to say it is democratic leaning.

The GOP logged 47 years and the Democrats 22 years in the Governor's office.

It seems the author is another individual who suffer from SGS - Sour Grape Syndrome, an affliction shared by many here in all matters related to the State of California.

Source: http://www.theus50.c...a/governors.php

Earl Warren - Jan 4, 1943 to Oct 5, 1953 - Republican

Goodwin Jess Knight - Oct 5, 1953 to Jan 5, 1959 - Republican

Edmund Gerald Brown, Sr. - Jan 5, 1959 to Jan 3, 1967 - Democratic

Ronald Reagan - Jan 3, 1967 to Jan 6, 1975 - Republican

Edmund Gerald Brown, Jr. - Jan 6, 1975 to Jan 3, 1983 - Democratic

George Deukmejian - Jan 3, 1983 to Jan 7, 1991 - Republican

Pete Wilson - Jan 7, 1991 to Jan 4, 1999 - Republican

Joseph Graham Davis - Jan 4, 1999 to Nov 17, 2003 - Democratic

Arnold Schwarzenegger - Nov 17, 2003 to Jan 3, 2011 - Republican

Edmund G. Brown, Jr. - Jan 3, 2011 to present - Democratic

Edited July 13, 2012 by Gegel

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

The white paper cited by the OP is a good example of sophistry. The author begins with a premise which is not correct and then build your entire paper on that.

A list of governors of the State of California for the past 69 years is shown below, so if one were to say California is a one party state it would be a big misrepresentation of the truth to say it is democratic leaning.

The GOP logged 47 years and the Democrats 22 years in the Governor's office.

It seems the author is another individual who suffer from SGS - Sour Grape Syndrome, an affliction shared by many here.

Source: http://www.theus50.com/california/governors.php

Earl WarrenJan 4, 1943

Oct 5, 1953RepublicanGoodwin Jess KnightOct 5, 1953

Jan 5, 1959RepublicanEdmund Gerald Brown, Sr.Jan 5, 1959

Jan 3, 1967DemocraticRonald ReaganJan 3, 1967

Jan 6, 1975RepublicanEdmund Gerald Brown, Jr.Jan 6, 1975

Jan 3, 1983DemocraticGeorge DeukmejianJan 3, 1983

Jan 7, 1991RepublicanPete WilsonJan 7, 1991

Jan 4, 1999RepublicanJoseph Graham DavisJan 4, 1999

Nov 17, 2003DemocraticArnold SchwarzeneggerNov 17, 2003

Jan 3, 2011RepublicanEdmund G. Brown, Jr.Jan 3, 2011

IncumbantDemocratic

Gray Davis was no Republican... Where do you come up with this stuff?

Neither was Jerry Brown, or his father Pat.

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[JohnR! 5,495]

Where do you come up with this stuff?

I posted the link to the source of the table: http://www.theus50.c...a/governors.php

Here is an encore..

Earl Warren - Jan 4, 1943 to Oct 5, 1953 - Republican

Goodwin Jess Knight - Oct 5, 1953 to Jan 5, 1959 - Republican

Edmund Gerald Brown, Sr. - Jan 5, 1959 to Jan 3, 1967 - Democratic

Ronald Reagan - Jan 3, 1967 to Jan 6, 1975 - Republican

Edmund Gerald Brown, Jr. - Jan 6, 1975 to Jan 3, 1983 - Democratic

George Deukmejian - Jan 3, 1983 to Jan 7, 1991 - Republican

Pete Wilson - Jan 7, 1991 to Jan 4, 1999 - Republican

Joseph Graham Davis - Jan 4, 1999 to Nov 17, 2003 - Democratic

Arnold Schwarzenegger - Nov 17, 2003 to Jan 3, 2011 - Republican

Edmund G. Brown, Jr. - Jan 3, 2011 to present - Democratic

Edited July 13, 2012 by Gegel

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Statewide constitutional officers

As of January 10, 2011, Democrats hold all eight elected statewide constitutional offices:

U.S. Senate

Both of California's seats in the U.S. Senate have been under Democratic control since 1992:

U.S. House of Representatives

Of the 53 seats California is apportioned in the U.S. House following the 2000 census, 34 are held by the Democrats:

State Senate

Democrats hold a 25-15 edge in the 40-member State Senate at the start of the 2011-2012 session. The Democrats have been the majority party in the Senate continuously since 1956.

State Assembly

Democrats hold a 52-28 majority in the 80-seat California State Assembly, with one vacancy belonging to a seat recently held by the Republican Party. The Democrats have been the majority party in the Assembly continuously since 1996.

Mayoral offices

Some of the state's major cities have Democratic mayors. In 2011, Democrats control the mayor's offices in seven of California's ten largest cities:

• Los Angeles (1): Antonio Villaraigosa
  
• San Jose (3): Chuck Reed
  
• San Francisco (4): Ed Lee
  
• Sacramento (6): Kevin Johnson
  
• Long Beach (7): Bob Foster
  
• Oakland (8): Jean Quan
  
• Santa Ana (9): Miguel A. Pulido[8]
  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Democratic_Party

Are you still blaming the Republicans for California's fiscal problems?

[JohnR! 5,495]

Are you still blaming the Republicans for California's fiscal problems?

I think the OP was blaming the Democrats or at best using the sophism predicated by the white-paper as evidence somehow that one party or the other was solely responsible for it... or worse, trying to imply the POTUS is responsible for the situation in California.

Go figure...Sophistry is self serving.. :rofl:

Edited July 13, 2012 by Gegel

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

I think the OP was blaming the Democrats or at best using the sophism predicated by the white-paper as evidence somehow that one party or the other was solely responsible for it... or worse, trying to imply the POTUS is responsible for the situation in California.

Go figure...Sophistry is self serving.. :rofl:

Can you please quote the part of the OP that blames the president? Democrats have controlled the California Senate sine 1956 and the California Assembly since 1996.

Edited July 13, 2012 by Bad_Daddy

[JohnR! 5,495]

Democrats have controlled the California Senate sine 1956 and the California Assembly since 1996.

That is precisely my point. Dems have controlled the Senate and Assembly, Reps have controlled the Governor's office.

Blaming it on one party or one individual, as the white-paper suggests, would be sophomoric...

If you consider that dreams and visions can only happen in the future, it would be more accurate to say that 'California is Reagan's dream' is one wished to make the weak and irrational point that the POTUS has any bearing on the status of any particular State.

Edited July 13, 2012 by Gegel

[rocks 494]

Can you please quote the part of the OP that blames the president? Democrats have controlled the California Senate sine 1956 and the California Assembly since 1996.

And California isn't in the top 10 states that have people on food stamps! Amazing.

How many of these states have republican governors?

10 - South Carolina ( R )

09 - Maine ( R )

08 - West Virginia ( D )

07 - Kentucky ( D )

06 - Louisiana ( R )

05 - Michigan ( R )

04 - New Mexico ( R )

03 - Tennessee ( R )

02 - Oregon ( D )

01 - Mississippi ( R )

Edited July 13, 2012 by rocks

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

That is precisely my point. Dems have controlled the Senate and Assembly, Reps have controlled the Governor's office.

The state is rigged so that the Governor is only a figurehead. Look how much trouble Moonbeam is having getting anything done, even after they rigged the budget process to lock out the Republicans. They still have to go to the taxpayers to raise the taxes, and that just is not going to happen again. The electorate is getting wise to the ways of Sacramento.

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