2012 re-authorization, Male VAWA, children VAWA

[Ihavequestions 419]

In her phonecalls, she clearly indicated that she's LPR striving to USC. She threatened in regard to any interference with her Citizenship process or Child Support fraud

Do you mean the phone calls from a blocked number that you continue to answer?

Reasonable minds would conclude that not answering calls from blocked numbers would stop you from ever hearing her voice again, don't you think?

Edited July 12, 2012 by Ihavequestions

[AmyWrites 593]

In her phonecalls, she clearly indicated that she's LPR striving to USC. She threatened in regard to any interference with her Citizenship process or Child Support fraud

According to you she's mentally unstable, which means she could potentially just be lying to mess with you, to manipulate you... and again, you've pretty well protected your kids from her, and why do you keep answering the phone?

And don't get all pissy and stuff, these are issues that will come up for you, you know, not on the internet, where things do matter and you can't lie.

Edited July 12, 2012 by AmyWrites

[SingleDad2usc 71]

These suggestions are no-gamers; I happen to be getting plenty of calls where the number is not displayed. Some of them are important, which I wouldn't want to miss.

Going back to when I hear her voice, or a male voice on her behalf - my best policy is to retain composure and play amicable. In earlier calls, she said she'll walk over corpses to avoid going to jail, and she said that I'm the only person who knows what she'd pulled

[aaydrian 479]

From your past and present thread I believe as much as you threaten her with her past, she feels the need to 'threaten' you (most likely with deportation). You already have atleast temp custody of the kids you claim you love, their mother isn't liable for child support or any emotional obligation. You barely (if that much) have a VAWA case to everyone except the delusional so why don't you leave your children's mother alone, find a good woman who will love both your kids and you and move on?

It seems as if what determine if you have an ounce of a chance for VAWA/being able to legally remarry is if she divorced you and how long ago it happened. If that's all you call your ex partner to find out then she has no reason to bring dead bodies in the mix which means your being very nasty (saying mean things/bringing up very irrelevant history or information) to her on the phone .

Edited July 12, 2012 by aaydrian

[Ihavequestions 419]

These suggestions are no-gamers; I happen to be getting plenty of calls where the number is not displayed. Some of them are important, which I wouldn't want to miss.

Have you considered changing your number? Hanging up when it's evident it's either her or someone on her behalf?

[SingleDad2usc 71]

your writing is not very clear - but I think I've understood a few points.

1. of course, when u say "threaten her" - u mean "present a threat to her". I've never threatened.

2. I have FINAL CUSTODY ORDER of 2005. Where did u get "temp" and "kids u claim u love"? I've never claimed.

3. She can't threaten me with deportation, she can only threaten to silence me.

4. Where did u get "she's not liable for Child Support"? A rule of thumb: a non-custodial parent must pay 25% of gross.

5. Where did u get "I call her"? Where did u get I have a candidate to marry - I'd love her phone# lol!

6. Where am I nasty on phone: I specifically pointed out that my only route is to play along...

As to any "chance with VAWA", can someone please address what the guide specifies:

Special VAWA Hardship Factors

1. Nature and extent of physical or psychological consequences of abuse

2. Impact of the loss of access to the U.S. court system regarding protective orders, criminal investigations and prosecutions, child support and custody, etc.

3. Continued need for social, medical, and mental health services for victim and children

From your past and present thread I believe as much as you threaten her with her past, she feels the need to 'threaten' you (most likely with deportation). You already have atleast temp custody of the kids you claim you love, their mother isn't liable for child support or any emotional obligation. You barely (if that much) have a VAWA case to everyone except the delusional so why don't you leave your children's mother alone, find a good woman who will love both your kids and you and move on?

It seems as if what determine if you have an ounce of a chance for VAWA/being able to legally remarry is if she divorced you and how long ago it happened. If that's all you call your ex partner to find out then she has no reason to bring dead bodies in the mix which means your being very nasty to her on the phone.

[SingleDad2usc 71]

Opposed to her, I've never changed anything, ran or hid from anyone. I'm very stable within the community, and everyone treats my children and myself with love and respect I appreciate very much. She can always find my number, even if it changed. Again, I'm an open book. As to "hanging up": I just explained that giving her any suspicion that I don't co-operate would be dangerous. So basically, this is what I was describing as my other choice of status-quo. If I make no waves whatsoever, the outcome will likely be peaceful. But is it the best decision; or hiring attorney for Family Court Order of Protection and for subsequent VAWA is best decision?

Have you considered changing your number? Hanging up when it's evident it's either her or someone on her behalf?

[Ihavequestions 419]

Opposed to her, I've never changed anything, ran or hid from anyone. I'm very stable within the community, and everyone treats my children and myself with love and respect I appreciate very much. She can always find my number, even if it changed. Again, I'm an open book. As to "hanging up": I just explained that giving her any suspicion that I don't co-operate would be dangerous. So basically, this is what I was describing as my other choice of status-quo. If I make no waves whatsoever, the outcome will likely be peaceful. But is it the best decision; or hiring attorney for Family Court Order of Protection and for subsequent VAWA is best decision?

If you're asking me whether manipulating the family court system to set the stage for an unsubstantiated VAWA case is a good idea or not, my answer is no, it's not a good idea.

[aaydrian 479]

your writing is not very clear - but I think I've understood a few points.

1. of course, when u say "threaten her" - u mean "present a threat to her". I've never threatened.

2. I have FINAL CUSTODY ORDER of 2005. Where did u get "temp" and "kids u claim u love"? I've never claimed.

3. She can't threaten me with deportation, she can only threaten to silence me.

4. Where did u get "she's not liable for Child Support"? A rule of thumb: a non-custodial parent must pay 25% of gross.

5. Where did u get "I call her"? Where did u get I have a candidate to marry - I'd love her phone# lol!

6. Where am I nasty on phone: I specifically pointed out that my only route is to play along...

As to any "chance with VAWA", can someone please address what the guide specifies:

Special VAWA Hardship Factors

1. Nature and extent of physical or psychological consequences of abuse

2. Impact of the loss of access to the U.S. court system regarding protective orders, criminal investigations and prosecutions, child support and custody, etc.

3. Continued need for social, medical, and mental health services for victim and children

So if your case is so air tight why are you on immigration DIY website? Why not go to a non profit group/hire a lawyer to represent you huh? Have you done what Sandj recommended?

[SingleDad2usc 71]

There would be no lies in my Court petition. There would be no lies in my VAWA petition

[SingleDad2usc 71]

kindly refer to OP: this is precise reason for the topic. If I didn't strive for education on VAWA, this topic wouldn't exist.

I must state my gratitude to all contributors: I'm learning much more than if I had an appointment for lawyer consultation. Money would be flying, and I might not have heard objective views

So if your case is so air tight why are you on immigration DIY website? Why not go to a non profit group/hire a lawyer to represent you huh? Have you done what Sandj recommended?

[AmyWrites 593]

I'd shoot for VAWA if I were you, otherwise, you could never be sure about possible deportation.

[AF-Wife 181]

3. She can't threaten me with deportation, she can only threaten to silence me.

She can report you to ICE and they, after researching and gathering information will begin removal-proceedings which is deportation.

[SingleDad2usc 71]

It's very interesting that I got one vote shifted here. Do keep challenging me guys, I know I have a lot of work ahead

I'd shoot for VAWA if I were you, otherwise, you could never be sure about possible deportation.

[decocker 7,198]

he can't file for vawa until he determines her current status in the US for the past two years/if he is still married or divorced.

he doesn't seem too concerned about either of these deciding factors. last he knows she was a PR in 2006-2007..

for some reason he's only concerned about fitting into the requirements of a vawa case and not his eligibility to file a vawa case.

hmmmm...