2012 re-authorization, Male VAWA, children VAWA

[Boiler 45,486]

Interesting.

[SingleDad2usc 71]

Citizenship isn't a requirement to be the payee of a disabled child. A business entity can be a payee.

I understand your entity example; surely it must be a well-qualified entity, and domestic. I also didn't mean "citizenship" - I mean any parent authorized to stay, or at least qualifying for SS#. It's weird that same workers, who qualify me on so many levels, tell me "you are not eligible for SS# without DHS authorization"; but eligible to be payee within this household composition. And no alarms triggered in so many years?

The Real ID Act forced each state's DMV personnel to be trained specialists on federally issued stay authorizations. But not SSA disability personnel? I suspect that conceptually there may be some path (or at least non-removal provision) for qualified payees - and that's why there are no alarms similar to DMV's

[Ihavequestions 419]

I understand your entity example; surely it must be a well-qualified entity, and domestic. I also didn't mean "citizenship" - I mean any parent authorized to stay, or at least qualifying for SS#. It's weird that same workers, who qualify me on so many levels, tell me "you are not eligible for SS# without DHS authorization"; but eligible to be payee within this household composition. And no alarms triggered in so many years?

The Real ID Act forced each state's DMV personnel to be trained specialists on federally issued stay authorizations. But not SSA disability personnel? I suspect that conceptually there may be some path (or at least non-removal provision) for qualified payees - and that's why there are no alarms similar to DMV's

As I said, a payee doesn't have to be a human being.

To take this thought one step further, what would prevent a parent living in the US without authorization from disabling their child in order to gain residency.

[Boiler 45,486]

An if the Government worked with some semblance of connectivity why are there so many living in the US sans documentation?

Why do IRS have a system that allows those without work authorisation to pay taxes?

[SingleDad2usc 71]

An if the Government worked with some semblance of connectivity why are there so many living in the US sans documentation?

Why do IRS have a system that allows those without work authorisation to pay taxes?

To pay taxes - YES. But to collect credits - NO

[SingleDad2usc 71]

No child credits, earned income credits or stimulus credits (any other?) - I'll be happy to stand corrected, please

[Boiler 45,486]

Stand corrected.

Well know scam to declare numerous dependent relatives.

[SingleDad2usc 71]

As I said, a payee doesn't have to be a human being.

To take this thought one step further, what would prevent a parent living in the US without authorization from disabling their child in order to gain residency.

Plenty of safeguards to prevent child abuse. ACS acts with no mercy at any sign/report (not sure about isolated communities, but we're not going there).

What doesn't make sense is what follows. Beyond the initial ACS hardball, where ACS's position is "unable or unwilling to care - children will be removed temporary, and then permanently via court". However, once court establishes the contrary (i.e. able and willing), not one official of any branch anywhere in the government will ever consider removing/moving the U.S. children. Same USCIS report that quotes deporting 47,000 parents (and of course not one of 47,000 were SINGLE parents, of good moral character, of medically fragile children), confesses that no data has ever been collected of the follow-up child move - thus the impact on children "hasn't been studied yet".

Another question I keep asking: I understand new VAWA proposals are to advance spousal independence, same-sex rights - but what else? Is anything ever proposed to solidify family? Children don't cast election votes - so there are no proposals to help children keep their parents and their country?

No wait: I'm not talking taking deductions, that's clearly allowed. I'm talking collecting credits. Can illegal alien get paid by the IRS?

No wait: I'm not talking taking deductions, that's clearly allowed. I'm talking collecting credits. Can illegal alien get paid by the IRS?

[SingleDad2usc 71]

Stand corrected.

Well know scam to declare numerous dependent relatives.

I'm not talking allowed deductions. I'm talking collecting credits - can illegal alien get paid by the IRS?

[decocker 7,198]

Same USCIS report that quotes deporting 47,000 parents (and of course not one of 47,000 were SINGLE parents, of good moral character, of medically fragile children)...

how do you know this?

and if you assume you are the only person in your particular predicament - why are you so shocked that there is no previously documented case displaying clear cut path for your legal adjustment?

[SingleDad2usc 71]

how do you know this?

and if you assume you are the only person in your particular predicament - why are you so shocked that there is no previously documented case displaying clear cut path for your legal adjustment?

I'm precisely NOT the only - and that's the reason for this thread. There are an undetermined number of single parent families in similar situation. And the information appears at premium: "get a good lawyer!" And relief appears not-easily coming: is there anything new in 2012 re-authorization to keep families together, or any relief with emphasis on children's future?

[decocker 7,198]

I'm precisely NOT the only - and that's the reason for this thread. There are an undetermined number of single parent families in similar situation. And the information appears at premium: "get a good lawyer!" And relief appears not-easily coming: is there anything new in 2012 re-authorization to keep families together, or any relief with emphasis on children's future?

from what i'm reading it doesn't sound like there has been any broadening of eligibility or assistance - so much as eligibility and assistance has been reigned in..http://www.alternet.org/tags/vawa-reauthorization-2012/

[Boiler 45,486]

My expectation is that they will tighten up the regulations due to the amount of current abuse.

[decocker 7,198]

My expectation is that they will tighten up the regulations due to the amount of current abuse.

current abuse of vawa, not the abusive acts themselves- i agree.

[SingleDad2usc 71]

well the tighter version is stopped by Obama's veto. So until ®victory: it's either the old version or any more liberal version. And again: no single proposal seeking to strengthen families?