Taliban publicly execute woman near Kabul

[mawilson 2,133]

Trying to justify bad behaviour by pointing to other examples of bad behaviour - a classic WoM misdirection technique.

[JohnR! 5,495]

That would divert attention away from Moslem fathers slitting the throats of their daughters in honor killings

I suppose that is what you want

Fortunately, nobody is swallowing that kind of simplistic attempt to cover up (no pun intended)and dodge the subject of the thread

I note that not one of you can name any instance world wide of a father cutting a daughter's throat, where that father was not a Moslem

Child molestation which is your desired side-track is in all societies, all religions, all countries

Daughter throat cutting is restricted to one religion - MOSLEMS - and they don't seem that bothered about it

On the contrary, I think the comparison would help us put things in perspective in percentage terms. We would then be able to compare the percentile of throat slitting Muslim fathers to the child molesting Christian fathers and see how they fare.

However it you prefer to stick to honor killings, then you must note they are not exclusive to Muslim societies. Up to this date, it is a valid defense for husbands who murder their wives, in most Christian nations. A slit throat or a bullet in the head. The reason, the purpose and the outcome is the same.

The difference is that by pretending it only happens in another country may help some sleep better at night pretending these atrocities don't happen in their civilized backyard.

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Trying to justify bad behaviour by pointing to other examples of bad behaviour - a classic WoM misdirection technique.

I could not agree more. However, pointing out bad behavior and ignoring one's own backyard is hypocrisy.

Instead of justifying one by pointing to another, I would much rather indict both.

[Captain Oates 911]

Trying to justify bad behaviour by pointing to other examples of bad behaviour - a classic WoM misdirection technique.

These people lead me to believe that the US should stay in Afghanistan for 500 years until the natives are trained to be modern and stop all this stuff

It will take that long

The British stopped widow burning in India by public hangings

The American should introduce public hangings for daughter throat slitters in Afghanistan

Slow hanging would be good, followed my burial inside a pig carcass for good measure

ok ok no carcass for a first offense

Edited July 10, 2012 by Ashud Cocoa

[Ban Hammer 13,726]

three posts removed and admin action taken.

i suggest further postings cease violating tos. stereotyping religions and badgering other members may cause loss of posting privileges.

Edited July 10, 2012 by charles!

[JohnR! 5,495]

The American should introduce public hangings for daughter throat slitters

Slow hanging would be good, followed my burial inside a pig carcass for good measure

We already do that. If you were to slit your daughter's throat in America you would be charged with homicide and might get the death penalty. However, if you killed your wife because she was cheating on you, you might get acquitted because you were caught up in the heat of the moment.

I wish the same penalty applied in both cases.

[Captain Oates 911]

We already do that. If you were to slit your daughter's throat in America you would be charged with homicide and might get the death penalty. However, if you killed your wife because she was cheating on you, you might get acquitted because you were caught up in the heat of the moment.

I wish the same penalty applied in both cases.

Last time I looked, the USA was several thousand miles from Afghanistan - about the same distance your desired 'fork off' is away from the thread subject

Summary:

Moslems feel they have the right to judge the US population by their standards (eg mini skirts, pole dancers)

The US feels it has the right to judge throat slitters by US standards

Moslem nations WOULD impose their values wordwide by force if they could - but they can't

The US imposes its views a bit following its use of military force - but not enough in my opinion

I think the US should seize the opportunity to stamp this stuff out in the way the Brits stamped it out in India

Yes let's stay until their culture develops to a basically acceptable (to us) level

[JohnR! 5,495]

Last time I looked, the USA was several thousand miles from Afghanistan

Precisely. It would be an exercise in futility to try and impose our legal system on a country which is on the other side of the world.

It might best serve America if we took care of our own problems first before pointing our fingers at others.

For all we know our laws can seem as barbaric to them as v.v.

Edited July 10, 2012 by Gegel

[JohnR! 5,495]

I think the US should seize the opportunity to stamp this stuff out in the way the Brits stamped it out in India

We are stamping out stuff right here at home...

We don't need to repeat Britain's mistake.

[Captain Oates 911]

Precisely. It would be an exercise in futility to try and impose our legal system on a country which is on the other side of the world.

It might best serve America if we took care of our own problems first before pointing our fingers at others.

For all we know our laws can seem as barbaric to them as v.v.

We can only see the world through our eyes and our own values - like they do when they talk about us

It would be preposterous for us to excuse their behavior just because its a long way away

I supposed you would have been against invading Germany to shut down the concentration camps - after all it's just their way ?

Whats it got to do with us ?

[Captain Oates 911]

We are stamping out stuff right here at home...

We don't need to repeat Britain's mistake.

So you think Britain was wrong to stop widow burning in India ??

They made a mistake ? It should be reversed ?

Re-instated ?

surreal

Try and sell that stuff at the UN

[JohnR! 5,495]

We can only see the world through our eyes and our own values - like they do when they talk about us

It would be preposterous for us to excuse their behavior just because its a long way away

For those same reasons you can only understand one culture through the eyes of those who were raised and live in it.

It would be preposterous for us to judge them just because we think we can. Fact is if we do that we must be willing to accept their criticisms of our culture.

It just so happens our roof is also made of glass...

[Captain Oates 911]

For those same reasons you can only understand one culture through the eyes of those who were raised and live in it.

It would be preposterous for us to judge them just because we think we can. Fact is if we do that we must be willing to accept their criticisms of our culture.

It just so happens our roof is also made of glass...

Whats preposterous about judging them ? We judge the Japanese for killing whales. We judge countries that have bear baiting and dog fighting and Jew gassing

We don't have to be willing to accept their judgements at all

Our morality is better than their morality and its going to be our way and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that

You have to decide what you think is right and proceed on that basis

They sure would if they had a decent army - do not be in any doubt about that

[JohnR! 5,495]

So you think Britain was wrong to stop widow burning in India ??

They made a mistake ? It should be reversed ?

Re-instated ?

surreal

Try and sell that stuff at the UN

I think the notion of colony and the exploratory empire which Britain built is something at which most Americans frown. Remember that our psyche is very much that of republic and citizens as opposed to kingdom and subjects. It would be a mistake for America to engage in that sort of government after having enjoyed over two centuries of independence and becoming a superpower on its own. We have not needed to follow some foreign monarchy for centuries and fared quite well.

Of course, by your rationale we should judge Britain by our American standards and facilitate a revolutionary war on the islands in an effort to do away with the medieval notion of monarchs, which is so very antiquated and almost barbaric.

[JohnR! 5,495]

Whats preposterous about judging them ? We judge the Japanese for killing whales. We judge countries that have bear baiting and dog fighting and Jew gassing

We don't have to be willing to accept their judgements at all

Our morality is better than their morality and its going to be our way and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that

You have to decide what you think is right and proceed on that basis

They sure would if they had a decent army - do not be in any doubt about that

But we do decide on what we think is right. You slit your daughter's throat in America and you will go to trial for murder.

In terms of our morality being better than theirs, I agree. We should invade GB and turn it into the 51st state and liberate their people from being subjects to a monarch.

[Karee 4,191]

But we do decide on what we think is right. You slit your daughter's throat in America and you will go to trial for murder.

In terms of our morality being better than theirs, I agree. We should invade GB and turn it into the 51st state and liberate their people from being subjects to a monarch.

Yeah that's the same as murdering a girl. WOW!