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[Captain Oates 911]

Religion is not a factor, except for those who want to make it a factor. That is why I have been pointing out crimes which are typical in Christian societies.

That some commit crimes and claim to do so in the name of god, it does not mean that god actually vetted it. In fact, if you consider that Muslims, Jews and Christians worship the one and same god of Abraham, you would know that it is all a misinterpretation of scripture.

You think there is no correlation between fathers cutting their daughter's throats in honor killings and the Moslem religion ?

I say its 100%

The world excepting you says its 100%

Let's leave it at that

Edited July 10, 2012 by Ashud Cocoa

[JohnR! 5,495]

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You think there is no correlation between father's cutting their daughter's throats in honor killings and the Moslem religion ?

You need to read Leviticus. It condones rape, plunder, homicide and a series of other crimes. At best you are accusing Muslims of plagiarism.

I am sure that from thePOV of someone who lives in a Muslim country, the systematic rape of children by their fathers is directly related to the father's Christian upbringing for only Christianity would excuse something that obscene.

Edited July 10, 2012 by Gegel

[Captain Oates 911]

You need to read Leviticus. It condones rape, plunder, homicide and a series of other crimes. At best you are accusing Muslims of plagiarism.

I am sure that from thePOV of someone who lives in a Muslim country, the systematic rape of children by their fathers is directly related to the father's Christian upbringing for only Christianity would excuse something that obscene.

Tell it to the judge

[JohnR! 5,495]

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Tell it to the judge

Precisely. You can only judge a crime by the legal system in which it was perpetrated, otherwise our child molesters would be sentenced to death.

P.s. the judge agrees with me on this one. An honor killing in Christian culture is called 'a crime of passion' and it is a valid legal defense.

Edited July 10, 2012 by Gegel

[Captain Oates 911]

Precisely. You can only judge a crime by the legal system in which it was perpetrated, otherwise our child molesters would be sentenced to death.

P.s. the judge agrees with me on this one.

That's nonsensical and grasping for legal technicalities

I can judge the crime of a father slitting his daughter's throat and I do

In my judgement its despicable and it's correlated to the Moslem religion 100%

I don't minimize it with student-style nonsensical convoluted gaming arguments

The Moslems need to stamp this out and stop ignoring it and making excuses and drawing false equivalences

Every time I talk about this with Moslems and Moslem sympathizers, I lose all my slight antipathy to US foreign policy and end up wanting an even bigger US military to crush these horrible practices for ever

Moslems are stacking up resentments worldwide by refusing to address this stuff

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

and every man is mammal - and so it's a problem with mammals ?

YOU know the score and you don't fool anyone about Moslem honor killings

When was the last time a christian slit his daughter's throat for infidelity ?

I await your frantic smoke screen, but I know I won't get a straight answer to that simple question

I dare you to answer it directly

The obfuscation is your own. Females are not the ones committing the overwhelming majority of violence against females; it's the males.

You keep trying to distinguish violent crimes against females committed by Muslim males as somehow a different phenomenon than crimes committed by non-Muslim males, but they are elements of the same pattern: attempts by males (all over the world and in all cultures and societies) to control females through brutality and terror.

Jealous husbands murdering their wives:

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=jealous+husband+murder+wife&oq=jealous+husband+murder+wife&gs_l=hp.3..0i22.609.5530.0.5635.33.21.3.8.8.0.197.2166.12j8.20.0...0.0.3M5f4jjwqEQ&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=21c0595ad86507f8&biw=1217&bih=751

Fathers murdering their baby daughters:

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=father+murder+baby+daughter&oq=father+murder+baby+daughter&gs_l=hp.3..33i29l4.18228.18670.2.18886.5.5.0.0.0.2.167.573.2j3.5.0...0.0.CZEsDfiI-as&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=21c0595ad86507f8&biw=1217&bih=751

It seems you're not in the least concerned about all this going on - even though it's happening right here in the U.S., also in Great Britain, and all over the world. But if it's Muslim men who do the killing, well then it's an outrage and religion must be to blame.

[JohnR! 5,495]

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Every time I talk about this with Moslems and Moslem sympathizers, I lose all my slight antipathy to US foreign policy and end up wanting an even bigger US military to crush these horrible practices for ever

The US, similarly to Britain can't even get justice for crimes in their own jurisdiction let alone in other countries... I'd be happy if they started by crushing child molestation and rape inside their own borders..

Edited July 10, 2012 by Gegel

[Captain Oates 911]

The obfuscation is your own. Females are not the ones committing the overwhelming majority of violence against females; it's the males.

You keep trying to distinguish violent crimes against females committed by Muslim males as somehow a different phenomenon than crimes committed by non-Muslim males, but they are elements of the same pattern: attempts by males (all over the world and in all cultures and societies) to control females through brutality and terror.

Jealous husbands murdering their wives:

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=jealous+husband+murder+wife&oq=jealous+husband+murder+wife&gs_l=hp.3..0i22.609.5530.0.5635.33.21.3.8.8.0.197.2166.12j8.20.0...0.0.3M5f4jjwqEQ&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=21c0595ad86507f8&biw=1217&bih=751

Fathers murdering their baby daughters:

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=father+murder+baby+daughter&oq=father+murder+baby+daughter&gs_l=hp.3..33i29l4.18228.18670.2.18886.5.5.0.0.0.2.167.573.2j3.5.0...0.0.CZEsDfiI-as&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=21c0595ad86507f8&biw=1217&bih=751

It seems you're not in the least concerned about all this going on - even though it's happening right here in the U.S., also in Great Britain, and all over the world. But if it's Muslim men who do the killing, well then it's an outrage and religion must be to blame.

You have your own agenda that is nothing to do with this thread

You don't make the slightest effort to answer the question or the thread subject

You get frightened and run to something else because you know Moslems are vulnerable on this subject

Fathers cutting their daughter's throats in an honor killing is a 100% MOSLEM CRIME

...and the whole world knows it and they are fed up of moslems trying to change the subject or cover up

Admit it and engage with the problem if you have any respect for other Moslem women

Your attempted diversions don't fool anyone

Stick to the thread subject

I dare you

Edited July 10, 2012 by Ashud Cocoa

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

You have your own agenda that is nothing to do with this thread

You don't make the slightest effort to answer the question or the thread subject

You get frightened and run to something else because you know Moslems are vulnerable on this subject

Fathers cutting their daughter's throats in an honor killing is a 100% MOSLEM CRIME

...and the whole world knows it and they are fed up of moslems trying to change the subject or cover up

Admit it and engage with the problem if you have any respect for other Moslem women

Your attempted diversions don't fool anyone

Stick to the thread subject

I dare you

Violent crimes against women are horrible and not to be tolerated, no matter which male commits it. Why are you afraid to say it ?

[Captain Oates 911]

Violent crimes against women are horrible and not to be tolerated, no matter which male commits it. Why are you afraid to say it ?

That's a good starting point and I agree with it 100%

Now if part of the Yorkshire culture was to cut daughter's throats, I would condemn it and say its rotten and that part of that culture should be rooted out and stamped on.

You know that daughter throat cutting happens in many Moslem cultures. Why don't you start your campaign for women right there, instead of chasing perverts in Alabama which everyone knows is a diversionary tactic ?

I think you are scared of seeming disloyal to your religious culture - and there is the root of the problem

In fact I think you are terrified of seeming disloyal and it may be a physical fear

I cant see you gaining any credibility in your campaign until you clean up your own religious house

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

That's a good starting point and I agree with it 100%

Now if part of the Yorkshire culture was to cut daughter's throats, I would condemn it and say its rotten and that part of that culture should be rooted out and stamped on.

You know that daughter throat cutting happens in many Moslem cultures. Why don't you start your campaign for women right there, instead of chasing perverts in Alabama which everyone knows is a diversionary tactic ?

I think you are scared of seeming disloyal to your religious culture - and there is the root of the problem

In fact I think you are terrified of seeming disloyal and it may be a physical fear

I cant see you gaining any credibility in your campaign until you clean up your own religious house

Your hypotheses are not facts.

In fact, "daughter throat-cutting" is not a part of "Muslim" culture - this is merely your uninformed theory, and it has been repeatedly shown to be incorrect. So why would I agree with it ? Cutting women's throats is, however, a part of a pattern of brutality and violence against women all over the world, practiced by men - and I've already shown that cutting women's throats is not a specifically "Muslim" phenomenon.

Violent crimes against females are all disgusting and I denounce them all. I am not limiting my criticisms to one specific ethnicity or religion - that's what you're doing.

I think you're the one who's terrified - of admitting the truth that men all over the world have brutalized women in various horrific ways throughout history and it continues even today.

[Captain Oates 911]

Your hypotheses are not facts.

In fact, "daughter throat-cutting" is not a part of "Muslim" culture - this is merely your uninformed theory, and it has been repeatedly shown to be incorrect. So why would I agree with it ? Cutting women's throats is, however, a part of a pattern of brutality and violence against women all over the world, practiced by men - and I've already shown that cutting women's throats is not a specifically "Muslim" phenomenon.

Violent crimes against females are all disgusting and I denounce them all. I am not limiting my criticisms to one specific ethnicity or religion - that's what you're doing.

I think you're the one who's terrified - of admitting the truth that men all over the world have brutalized women in various horrific ways throughout history and it continues even today.

So you say that fathers cutting daughter's throats happens all over the world

Name ONE INSTANCE anywhere in the world, where a father cut a daughter's throat as an honor killing and that father was not a Moslem

Well ?

Remember I come from Bradistan, so you aren't pulling any wool over my eyes....

[JohnR! 5,495]

So you say that fathers cutting daughter's throats happens all over the world

Name ONE INSTANCE anywhere in the world, where a father cut a daughter's throat as an honor killing and that father was not a Moslem

Well ?

Remember I come from Bradistan, so you aren't pulling any wool over my eyes....

How about we compare the number of daughters whose throats have been cut by Muslims versus the number of daughters who were molested repeatedly by their christian fathers?

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

Violent crimes against women are horrible and not to be tolerated, no matter which male commits it. Why are you afraid to say it ?

Unlike a lot of Muslim countries, they punish people here for crimes against women. Your reaching is what your doing. Nobody here was born yesterday.

[Captain Oates 911]

How about we compare the number of daughters whose throats have been cut by Muslims versus the number of daughters who were molested repeatedly by their christian fathers?

That would divert attention away from Moslem fathers slitting the throats of their daughters in honor killings

I suppose that is what you want

Fortunately, nobody is swallowing that kind of simplistic attempt to cover up (no pun intended)and dodge the subject of the thread

I note that not one of you can name any instance world wide of a father cutting a daughter's throat, where that father was not a Moslem

Child molestation which is your desired side-track is in all societies, all religions, all countries

Daughter throat cutting is restricted to one religion - MOSLEMS - and they don't seem that bothered about it