Hand Guns

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

I can't imagine what goes on in the head of a politician who thinks banning a certain caliber of ammo makes people safer.

Its the shotgun element of the revolvers. Most state's do not classify it as a shotgun or give it an exemption. California labels it a shotgun and as a result it doesn't meet the 18" rule.

[slim 1,525]

Its the shotgun element of the revolvers. Most state's do not classify it as a shotgun or give it an exemption. California labels it a shotgun and as a result it doesn't meet the 18" rule.

Those guys have some issues!

[Darnell 8,478]

The UK has the mind set that even if 1% of people are left without healthcare, that is not acceptable

Same with the 1% of people killed with tazers

It's a deep essential difference in the cultural make up of the two countries

The Brits don't sacrifice individuals for the good of the majority. The US does.

the Brits would rather be poorer as a whole than leave one person behind

Its the thinking that gave birth to the NHS

what?

The Brits don't sacrifice individuals for the good of the majority.

OK - your position is invalidated, as you picked 'the negative' of the British 'Expansion' tome since 1529 till 1999 (when the had to turn back HKG)

Not even the apparently enlightened principle of the ‘greatest good for the greatest number’ can excuse indifference to individual suffering. There is no test for progress other than its impact on the individual.

Aneurin Bevan - In Place of Fear (William Heinemann Ltd, London, 1952), p. 167-8.

Come on, put yer money in a PAC here that will get dueling re-instated and lawful.

[Darnell 8,478]

I want safe medicines/safe skies/safe air and clean water and universal healthcare - all of which are provided or ensured by government

I want planning restrictions on my neighbors so they don't open an all night pole dancing club - that's government

Good government is VERY desirable

All this exists, in Singapura.

You could move.

Many (myself included) would welcome such a change in domicile.

[X Factor 1,112]

[justashooter 430]

1.) I like to describe the UK situation because it gives contrast to any discussion on social issues, one of which is guns

2.) I even refuse to shoot at targets of Moslem Women's heads in the way my fellow Americans do

3.) I have to admit that I like to collect authorizations

4.) I guess you could say I have failed to assimilate.

5.) I think it's time to follow the UK in calling in all hand guns (including mine)

6.) People who want to hunt or shoot targets can use shotguns or rifles

7.) There is no doubt that American Inner Cities could be very much improved by this measure

8.) It doesn't run foul of the 2nd amendment as it is only a change of 'type' - after all, machine guns are a 'type' and are already severely restricted

9.) Of course it would require an effort on the part of hand gun owners to do something real and un-selfish for the benefit of their country.

1.) this is America, buddy.

2.) we shoot osama bin has been targets, not muslim woman head targets.

3.) speaks to your character. if you were American you wouldn't need authorizations.

4.) you have failed to assimilate.

5.) almost 250 years ago there was a little demonstration about how Americans felt about "following the UK". it was called The War Of The American Revolution.

6.) the Second Amendment has nothing to do with hunting or target shooting, dudette.

7.) crime is demonstrably high where people generally do not have or carry guns.

8.) you have no understanding of the Second Amendment. I suggest you read the recent decisions, Heller VS DC, and McDonald VS Chicago, in which the Supreme Court ruled on the meaning of the Second Amendment and incorporated it unto the States. Regulation of firearms in common use are specifically protected from restriction under Heller. Maryland is in process of loosing it's restrictive laws right now, as are several other leftist states.

9.) our forefathers have made unselfish gestures for generations to protect The Constitution and all of it's Amendments, including your right to freedom of speach, however ill informed and deluded you are.

as an added note, you people hiding under canadian and english flags who are not canada or UK born should just own up to the fact that you are north african muslims and speak for who you are, rather than trying to misrepresent your orientation.

as far as the "muslim women's heads targets" comment, this is your projection, not reality. you are mistaking a mil-spec type F target, which is standardised under TC 25-8, used by all NATO military training standards, and depicts a general head and shoulders shillouette as would be seen in combat conditions, for that of a veiled face.

http://www.usmolders.com/products/standard_targets.pdf

study the issue and learn what you are talking about before you open your mouth.

[lostinblue 1,989]

1.) this is America, buddy.

2.) we shoot osama bin has been targets, not muslim woman head targets.

3.) speaks to your character. if you were American you wouldn't need authorizations.

4.) you have failed to assimilate.

5.) almost 250 years ago there was a little demonstration about how Americans felt about "following the UK". it was called The War Of The American Revolution.

6.) the Second Amendment has nothing to do with hunting or target shooting, dudette.

7.) crime is demonstrably high where people generally do not have or carry guns.

8.) you have no understanding of the Second Amendment. I suggest you read the recent decisions, Heller VS DC, and McDonald VS Chicago, in which the Supreme Court ruled on the meaning of the Second Amendment and incorporated it unto the States. Regulation of firearms in common use are specifically protected from restriction under Heller. Maryland is in process of loosing it's restrictive laws right now, as are several other leftist states.

9.) our forefathers have made unselfish gestures for generations to protect The Constitution and all of it's Amendments, including your right to freedom of speach, however ill informed and deluded you are.

as an added note, you people hiding under canadian and english flags who are not canada or UK born should just own up to the fact that you are north african muslims and speak for who you are, rather than trying to misrepresent your orientation.

as far as the "muslim women's heads targets" comment, this is your projection, not reality. you are mistaking a mil-spec type F target, which is standardised under TC 25-8, used by all NATO military training standards, and depicts a general head and shoulders shillouette as would be seen in combat conditions, for that of a veiled face.

http://www.usmolders.com/products/standard_targets.pdf

study the issue and learn what you are talking about before you open your mouth.

[lostinblue 1,989]

If we cannot stop illegal immigrants or drugs from coming across our southern boarder, how can we prevent weapons from coming into this country.

[james&olya 1,121]

If we cannot stop illegal immigrants or drugs from coming across our southern boarder, how can we prevent weapons from coming into this country.

weapons coming IN?? Really? I thought the issue on guns going across the border was their flowing out by the hundreds of thousands!

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

weapons coming IN?? Really? I thought the issue on guns going across the border was their flowing out by the hundreds of thousands!

Its kind of like this. The guns coming in have visas, those going out cross the border (the US civilian pop. imports a lot)

[Ban Hammer 13,349]

weapons coming IN?? Really? I thought the issue on guns going across the border was their flowing out by the hundreds of thousands!

it's a good point - the war on drugs isn't working out too hot, so a war on firearms would be about as successful.

[lostinblue 1,989]

weapons coming IN?? Really? I thought the issue on guns going across the border was their flowing out by the hundreds of thousands!

That is Obamas version. Only a liberal would think that if we banned hand guns in this country you would solve the problem of blacks killing blacks. Guns would flow into this country like water.

[X Factor 1,112]

We will have to wait to see if the guns that the 24 year old shooter in Colorado who shot 50 and killed 12 were legal.

[X Factor 1,112]

3 of the 4 weapons the gun man in Colorado used

smith & wesson ar -15 rifle

remington model 870

glock.40 handgun

Edited July 20, 2012 by kennard

[justashooter 430]

no class at all. not a stick of wood among them, or even that much steel.

and a footy? my god.