Hand Guns

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

At least 30 and one VERY high heeled pair of stilletos

Ever seen Single White Female?

It it was a RUB chick who had 30 pairs of shoes, 15 of those pairs would be stiletto heels.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

These discussions always get pulled into an argument that trying to regulate guns is futile because it's too complicated to effectively classify guns. That's a red herring. If gun enthusiasts think such regulations would be convoluted, look at the banking industry or just about anything that has rules and regulations. What the gun enthusiasts mostly believe is that rules and regulations in general are stupid and useless. They believe that limiting access to certain guns or accessories isn't going to have any positive impact on reducing crime, except when the ATF does a gun running operation. If limiting access to guns doesn't impact crime, we should then let Iran mine all the uranium they want. We should let children have open access to guns, and allow guns everywhere and only then will we truly enjoy our beloved 2nd Amendment. Hallelujah and praise Jesus for worship of guns in this country.

Edited July 6, 2012 by Mister Fancypants

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

These discussions always get pulled into an argument that trying to regulate guns is futile because it's too complicated to effectively classify guns. That's a red herring. If gun enthusiasts think such regulations would be convoluted, look at the banking industry or just about anything that has rules and regulations. What the gun enthusiasts mostly believe is that rules and regulations in general are stupid and useless. They believe that limiting access to certain guns or accessories isn't going to have any positive impact on reducing crime, except when the ATF does a gun running operation. If limiting access to guns doesn't impact crime, we should then let Iran mine all the uranium they want. We should let children have open access to guns, and allow guns everywhere and only then will we truly enjoy our beloved 2nd Amendment. Hallelujah and praise Jesus for worship of guns in this country.

So how did those restrictive gun laws in such places as Washington DC and Chicago work out? Post some statistics on that for us please.

Edited July 6, 2012 by Bad_Daddy

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

These discussions always get pulled into an argument that trying to regulate guns is futile because it's too complicated to effectively classify guns. That's a red herring. If gun enthusiasts think such regulations would be convoluted, look at the banking industry or just about anything that has rules and regulations. What the gun enthusiasts mostly believe is that rules and regulations in general are stupid and useless. They believe that limiting access to certain guns or accessories isn't going to have any positive impact on reducing crime, except when the ATF does a gun running operation. If limiting access to guns doesn't impact crime, we should then let Iran mine all the uranium they want. We should let children have open access to guns, and allow guns everywhere and only then will we truly enjoy our beloved 2nd Amendment. Hallelujah and praise Jesus for worship of guns in this country.

I think there are two elements to regulating firearms.

1. Regulate the firearms themselves

2. Regulate the purchase of firearms.

I think No 1 is somewhat futile. In my state they tried banning releasable mags. A gentleman at calguns developed a tool around it. People can work around mechanical limitations such as magazine capacity etc.

But I think No 2. is feasible. I have no problem with a one firearm purchase per month rule, a 10 day waiting period rule, a rule that makes it illegal to transfer a firearm to someone else with a DROS at an FFL. These laws limit the amount of firearms reaching the wrong hands. The way illegal ppl get them is through underground sales. IE someone walks into a store, buys 30 guns, and walks out with plans to resale - its a straw purchaser's dream.

Edited July 6, 2012 by Sousuke

[one...two...tree 2,762]

I think there are two elements to regulating firearms.

1. Regulate the firearms themselves

2. Regulate the purchase of firearms.

I think No 1 is somewhat futile. In my state they tried banning releasable mags. A gentleman at calguns developed a tool around it. People can work around mechanical limitations such as magazine capacity etc.

But I think No 2. is feasible. I have no problem with a one firearm purchase per month rule, a 10 day waiting period rule, a rule that makes it illegal to transfer a firearm to someone else with a DROS at an FFL. These laws limit the amount of firearms reaching the wrong hands. The way illegal ppl get them is through underground sales. IE someone walks into a store, buys 30 guns, and walks out with plans to resale - its a straw purchaser's dream.

Good Points on issue 2. However, limiting access to certain types of firearms, features, or ammo is possible, even if never perfect. I don't think fully auto, high capacity firearms should be openly available to anyone, even if it isn't hard to modify firearm to such specs. It's the rocket launcher argument. Should people be able to carry such a, weapon? Where do we draw the line on personal firepower?

Edited July 6, 2012 by Mister Fancypants

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

Good Points on issue 2. However, limiting access to certain types of firearms, features, or ammo is possible, even if never perfect. I don't think fully auto, high capacity firearms should be openly available to anyone, even if it isn't hard to modify firearm to such specs. It's the rocket launcher argument. Should people be able to carry such a, weapon? Where do we draw the line on personal firepower?

This is the gangbangers choice of weapons. Glock 9mm. Hardly a machine gun.

[Captain Oates 910]

Interesting post. What does this list prove? Other than it's been a while since we last saw the list.

I put forward the list of my firearms to indicate that I am not a European towny who has never shot anything other than a fairground air rifle.

I forgot to add my Glock 26 9mm with the extended mag and competition trigger

Some other readers may not have known that I was a gun enthusiast, so I thought some background might help

You say you have seen me make a similar list in the past, so I am sorry you had to read it again and I hope you can forgive the tedium of reading the two lines on the screen if it gives others a better understanding of the context

[Operator 1,927]

People don't kill people.

People with guns kill people.

So do people with bats, knives, sharpened toothbrush handles and commercial aircraft.

[Captain Oates 910]

So do people with bats, knives, sharpened toothbrush handles and commercial aircraft.

+ military aircraft and rabid raccoons

[natty bumppo 289]

I put forward the list of my firearms to indicate that I am not a European towny who has never shot anything other than a fairground air rifle.

I forgot to add my Glock 26 9mm with the extended mag and competition trigger

Some other readers may not have known that I was a gun enthusiast, so I thought some background might help

You say you have seen me make a similar list in the past, so I am sorry you had to read it again and I hope you can forgive the tedium of reading the two lines on the screen if it gives others a better understanding of the context

actually the list is ... well i think gary did post some comments ...

it's also a useless list without pics ...

[Captain Oates 910]

actually the list is ... well i think gary did post some comments ...

it's also a useless list without pics ...

Surely you don't mean that you don't believe me ? You want me to spend Friday getting all my guns out, photographing them with me behind them (on timer) (with today's newspaper in the background)and then upload them to the internet and then link to them in a post ?

All to convince you that I am a shooter ?

..and then how could I prove to your satisfaction that I had my first 12 bore shotgun at age 13 and my first firearms certificate at 17 ?

My nearest notary is 15 miles away so it seems a lot of work...

Just don't believe me, that's easier.

[웃 910]

And make no mistake - Obama is coming for our guns. This administration will attempt an end-around via the UN small arms treaty. Additionally, guns - especially handguns - will be banned from homes under "preventative care" statutes of the new Obamacare Tax. "It's for your own safety. Forward, comrade."

You've been to one too many tea party rallies.

[kytwell 179]

Surely you don't mean that you don't believe me ? You want me to spend Friday getting all my guns out, photographing them with me behind them (on timer) (with today's newspaper in the background)and then upload them to the internet and then link to them in a post ?

All to convince you that I am a shooter ?

..and then how could I prove to your satisfaction that I had my first 12 bore shotgun at age 13 and my first firearms certificate at 17 ?

My nearest notary is 15 miles away so it seems a lot of work...

Just don't believe me, that's easier.

The pics would be similar in nature to white politicians who forward racist jokes, get caught and then claim they have a black friend and will even do a press conference with a few on stage, within camera range.

[Captain Oates 910]

Dig a little deeper, genius. Check out the DOJ, CDC, etc. Be mindful not to mix in suicides, accidental deaths, deaths by long gun, etc. Straight up murder by handgun is what we're looking for here.

And since you're into the census, perhaps you can tell us why 12% of the population accounts for 50% of murder victims?

Is it still the little metal object?

ETA - are you counting our spanish-speaking "other browns" as caucazoids? Be careful not to do that!

Cork Asians can be a problem too

"Cork Asians" refers to mainly people of Pakistani origin who live in Cork, Ireland - Ireland's second largest city

Edited July 6, 2012 by Ashud Cocoa

[Dave-n-Oksana 49]

Alan I understand what you are saying and that it is based on your personal views and experience, but in honesty restricting handguns will never be the solution. The problem is the mindset of the American culture. When artists and movies glorify the criminal or "Gangsta" lifestyle, there will always be those who will want to emulate that. American's have always associated itself with the Rebel. The person who defies the law and wins and the only way to break this cycle is to take the glory away from these actions.

What is truly needed is harsher punishements for violent crimes, and less codling of inmates in our prison system. Take away the Cable TV, Internet, phone priviledges as rights, and make them priviledges to be earned. Make the inmates work to support and feed themselves and therefor reduce the burdon on the Tax payer who is victimized by these criminals a second time.