Hand Guns

[Captain Oates 910]

I like to describe the UK situation because it gives contrast to any discussion on social issues, one of which is guns

I have had at least a target rifle since I was 17. I have taken advantage of the US conditions and bought lots of toys but all for the purpose of target shooting. I even refuse to shoot at targets of Moslem Women's heads in the way my fellow Americans do

I have to admit that I like to collect authorizations so I do have a Washington concealed license and now I have a Wisconsin one

However, I have never strutted round the streets with a gun or aggressively tailgated someone on the highway in a pick up truck with a gun ready to use

I guess you could say I have failed to assimilate.

I think it's time to follow the UK in calling in all hand guns (including mine)

People who want to hunt or shoot targets can use shotguns or rifles

There is no doubt that American Inner Cities could be very much improved by this measure

It doesn't run foul of the 2nd amendment as it is only a change of 'type' - after all, machine guns are a 'type' and are already severely restricted

Of course it would require an effort on the part of hand gun owners to do something real and un-selfish for the benefit of their country.

[X Factor 1,111]

This is a very emotional and polorizing topic for some. The comments should be interesting.

[rocks 494]

They should also get rid of extended clips and the sale of assault rifles.

[Operator 1,927]

The inner cities could be very much improved if you could remove all of the guns that reside there. Unfortunately its not the law abiding, permit carrying citizens, such as yourself that are the problem. It's doubtful to me that the gang-bangers, thugs and dope slingers are going to heed a call from the government to turn in all hand guns.

[bsd058 296]

Although noble intentioned, I do not think you'll get your way.

The right to carry arms is a right that will not easily be taken away from the American public. It's kind of a way some Americans identify themselves. They want to know that they can defend themselves if someone were to invade their homes or country. I agree with them. It's just too bad that criminals and ill-intentioned people are able to so easily get their hands on a firearm. Until people are mature enough to control their tempers and to not throw deadly tantrums, we will continue to have gun related violence.

I don't have any problem with Americans having hand guns, though. I think Canada should allow law-abiding citizens to carry hand guns on their person. Especially in Western Canada where you might need to defend yourself against animals or others. In Canada, you cannot bring your firearms with you wherever you go. You must be going to a gun range, to the police, or to a hunting ground. It cannot be loaded to defend yourself either. Don't get me wrong. You are allowed to defend yourself with a gun, the law just makes it impossible to be ready to defend yourself legally.

Edited July 5, 2012 by bsd058

[rocks 494]

The right to carry arms is a right that will not easily be taken away from the American public.

It was during Hurricane Katrina.

[Ban Hammer 13,136]

They should also get rid of extended clips and the sale of assault rifles.

so, what is an extended clip?

and what is an assault rifle?

[Captain Oates 910]

Although noble intentioned, I do not think you'll get your way.

The right to carry arms is a right that will not easily be taken away from the American public. It's kind of a way some Americans identify themselves. They want to know that they can defend themselves if someone were to invade their homes or country. I agree with them. It's just too bad that criminals and ill-intentioned people are able to so easily get their hands on a firearm. Until people are mature enough to control their tempers and to not throw deadly tantrums, we will continue to have gun related violence.

I don't have any problem with Americans having hand guns, though. I think Canada should allow law-abiding citizens to carry hand guns on their person. Especially in Western Canada where you might need to defend yourself against animals or others. In Canada, you cannot bring your firearms with you wherever you go. You must be going to a gun range, to the police, or to a hunting ground. It cannot be loaded to defend yourself either. Don't get me wrong. You are allowed to defend yourself with a gun, the law just makes it impossible to be ready to defend yourself legally.

I can't imagine a scenario where an american would prefer to defend the country with a handgun rather than a rifle or shotgun

I can't imagine the USA being physically invaded by a country where a rifle or shotgun or hand gun would be of the slightest use. In fact the country would be white hot glassified sand and the foreign power would wait for the radio activity to die down before coming to drill for oil.

So all this 3 cornered hat stuff is just boys playing with their imagination. Those days have gone

The thread is purely about hand guns, so "home defense" is not affected

This thread is tightly defined and restricted to hand guns - the USA and Canada can get on just fine without them

A mandatory penalty of 10 years in prison (same as UK) plus a high "buy in" price by the government would reduce illegal possession pretty quickly. The crack heads would be stealing their friends guns to hand them in for good money

Edited July 5, 2012 by Ashud Cocoa

[Operator 1,927]

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

so, what is an extended clip?

and what is an assault rifle?

Things that look scary to the general public, or should I say legislators?

The "scary" firearms do not, statistically, get used in crimes.

[rocks 494]

so, what is an extended clip?

and what is an assault rifle?

Do I need to provide pictures?

[Ban Hammer 13,136]

Things that look scary to the general public, or should I say legislators?

The "scary" firearms do not, statistically, get used in crimes.

show me a pic of an "extended clip"

Do I need to provide pictures?

[Captain Oates 910]

Things that look scary to the general public, or should I say legislators?

The "scary" firearms do not, statistically, get used in crimes.

back to handguns... I am carrying out a citizens arrest on anyone straying away from hand guns

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

The thread is purely about hand guns, so "home defense" is not affected

Sure its affected. If you live in a small home, a long gun may be less than ideal.

[Ban Hammer 13,136]

which one is the "assault rifle"