Spanking Linked to Mental Illness, Says Study

[Ban Hammer 13,692]

*** Mod warning: get back on topic, and discuss it civily (as a serious topic, not sarcastic), or thread bans will happen ****

ahem. please comply. last warning to stop the bickering.

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

I don't think a "spanking" (meaning a few swats with the open hand on the bottom of a clothed child, not delivered with anything approaching full adult strength, but with great restraint as appropriate for a 2 or 3-year-old) constitutes "child abuse."

However, I believe that a beating with a belt (including one with metal parts ) certainly is child abuse.

It's far more effective, and makes a lasting impression, to reason with a child on his/her particular maturity level, using restrictions of privileges as punishment when it's needed. Time outs work really, really well on little kids; for older kids - not getting to go out with their friends or use their cell phones or post on Facebook, etc. works really well.

Beating them only teaches them that might = right.

[rocks 494]

I don't think a "spanking" (meaning a few swats with the open hand on the bottom of a clothed child, not delivered with anything approaching full adult strength, but with great restraint as appropriate for a 2 or 3-year-old) constitutes "child abuse."

However, I believe that a beating with a belt (including one with metal parts ) certainly is child abuse.

It's far more effective, and makes a lasting impression, to reason with a child on his/her particular maturity level, using restrictions of privileges as punishment when it's needed. Time outs work really, really well on little kids; for older kids - not getting to go out with their friends or use their cell phones or post on Facebook, etc. works really well.

Beating them only teaches them that might = right.

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

What about switches?

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

What about switches?

LOL no. If you have to use an object to beat your child because it hurts your hand too much - this is a good indication that you've gone too far.

Edited July 4, 2012 by wife_of_mahmoud

[MyLittlePony 340]

I used to get beat with a leather belt. I still get beat by my wife with different objects.

[Adriene H 89]

I used to get beat with a leather belt. I still get beat by my wife with different objects.

It's an acquired taste

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

I used to get beat with a leather belt. I still get beat by my wife with different objects.

What consenting adults do for entertainment is a different issue.

[X Factor 1,112]

It's an acquired taste

Some never acquire that taste

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

What consenting adults do for entertainment is a different issue.

Many fetishes have their basis in childhood experiences, or the lack there of.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

This is P&R. If your not going to let people like Paul air out their opinions on here then P&R should be shut down imo for the fact your only going to get a select group on here posting their opinions.

I got 27 hacks by the teachers with paddles in the 8th grade. That was in the school. At home my step dad used a belt on me and my brothers without hesitation. It was nothing for my mom to grab us by the back of the shirt and beat us in the store in front of everyone there when we got busted for eating fruit that we kyped while she was shopping. The 70's weren't that long ago. Iv'e seen plenty of kids these days that don't get the belt and those kids are little bast@rds from the word go. Your wife is from Ukraine yes? Well ask her how they deal with those kids in the RUB countries. You never see those kids whine and/or cry while making arses of themselves to their parents. It just doesn't happen for the fact those kids know the score along with the consequences. Best behaved kids Iv'e ever seen are in the RUB countries. It's shut your mouth and obey your parents or mom is giving you five across the eyes and it seems to work well for them..

I am with you. I don't understand having a P and R forum then lowering the boom on people for getting in a heated discussion or trading a few barbs.

[Danno 1,228]

Study: Spanked Children May Grow Up to Be Happier, More Successful

Young children spanked by their parents may grow up to be happier and more successful than those who have never been hit, a study has found.

According to the research, children spanked up to the age of 6 were likely as teenagers to perform better at school and were more likely to carry out volunteer work and to want to go to college than their peers who had never been physically disciplined.

But children who continued to be spanked into adolescence showed clear behavioral problems.

Children’s groups and lawmakers in the UK have tried several times to have physical chastisement by parents outlawed, the Times of London reported. They claim it is a form of abuse that causes long-term harm to children and say banning it would send a clear signal that violence is unacceptable.

However, Marjorie Gunnoe, professor of psychology at Calvin College in Grand Rapids, Michigan, said her study showed there was insufficient evidence to deny parents the freedom to choose how they discipline their children.

“The claims made for not spanking children fail to hold up. They are not consistent with the data,” said Gunnoe. “I think of spanking as a dangerous tool, but there are times when there is a job big enough for a dangerous tool. You just don’t use it for all your jobs.”

Research into the effects of spanking was previously hampered by the inability to find enough children who had never been spanked, given its past cultural acceptability.

But Gunnoe’s work drew on a study of 2,600 people, about a quarter of whom had never been physically chastised.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,581882,00.html#ixzz1zjMRxNfv

[Captain Oates 911]

My dad kicked me repeatedly while I was on the on the floor when I used an iron bar to split his new settee that it took him a year to save up for

Never did me any harm

Last time I split a settee anyway

I hasten to add that when I was 9, he told me I had surpassed him educationally and intellectually, he couldn't teach me any more and so I was on my own

The truth is there are many kinds of intelligence, and he is still my hero as far as being able to deal with the world and it's people is concerned

[Penny Lane 8,159]

I get spanked on a regular basis and I'm okay.

But seriously - never got spanked as a child. My brothers did, because they were terrors, so I guess I learned my lessons through their punishments. I don't think spanking is necessary to discpline a child.

Edited July 5, 2012 by Evylin

[Captain Oates 911]

I get spanked on a regular basis and I'm okay.

But seriously - never got spanked as a child. My brothers did, because they were terrors, so I guess I learned my lessons through their punishments.

Conclusion is that spanking is good so long as it happens to other people.

It's quite similar to watching a traffic warden putting a ticket on a Rolls Royce