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Hello Everyone..I just need help in having these all cleared off my head..

I was in the states with the k1 visa that I was previously granted before, thus, got married there..but due to complications on my timing of getting there, with hubby had to be away for several months, we decided that I just be sent back home without even getting the chance to adjust status. To cut the long story short, since k1 is a one-time entry, we had to re-do everything from scratch, this time, with the cr1 or spousal visa route.

We are now in the NVC stage, and have already submitted the documents both for the affidavit of support and Immigration Visa packet..What we sent in as for the "marriage certificate" requirement, is a certified marriage license issued by the county clerk..I called up the NVC about that, and they kept insisting it's not what they need.. I don't understand why they wouldn't accept it, when it's all the county clerk could provide for us as certified copy of. It's top heading is "certified marriage license", at the top part of it, is the information about my husband (fiance then) and me. then the lower part of it, is the marriage information, as to where and when marriage took place and as to who married us,,with a raised seal on it and the signature of the clerk..it's a one-page document..I called up the county clerk about it, and would insist as well, that's all they issue..We were not sent an RFE yet, but I don't know how we're gonna get through this, in case this comes up as an issue..Anyone here, experienced, getting married in the USA, and only got to sent with heading "certified marriage license"? Tell me about ur experience please...I need clarity..And also, as for the AOS, my husband rounded off the tax income for years 2009-2011, is it gonna be fine, or can we expect RFE for that as well? Thank you so much for response!!!

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Hello Everyone..I just need help in having these all cleared off my head..

I was in the states with the k1 visa that I was previously granted before, thus, got married there..but due to complications on my timing of getting there, with hubby had to be away for several months, we decided that I just be sent back home without even getting the chance to adjust status. To cut the long story short, since k1 is a one-time entry, we had to re-do everything from scratch, this time, with the cr1 or spousal visa route.

We are now in the NVC stage, and have already submitted the documents both for the affidavit of support and Immigration Visa packet..What we sent in as for the "marriage certificate" requirement, is a certified marriage license issued by the county clerk..I called up the NVC about that, and they kept insisting it's not what they need.. I don't understand why they wouldn't accept it, when it's all the county clerk could provide for us as certified copy of. It's top heading is "certified marriage license", at the top part of it, is the information about my husband (fiance then) and me. then the lower part of it, is the marriage information, as to where and when marriage took place and as to who married us,,with a raised seal on it and the signature of the clerk..it's a one-page document..I called up the county clerk about it, and would insist as well, that's all they issue..We were not sent an RFE yet, but I don't know how we're gonna get through this, in case this comes up as an issue..Anyone here, experienced, getting married in the USA, and only got to sent with heading "certified marriage license"? Tell me about ur experience please...I need clarity..And also, as for the AOS, my husband rounded off the tax income for years 2009-2011, is it gonna be fine, or can we expect RFE for that as well? Thank you so much for response!!!

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Hello Everyone..I just need help in having these all cleared off my head..

I was in the states with the k1 visa that I was previously granted before, thus, got married there..but due to complications on my timing of getting there, with hubby had to be away for several months, we decided that I just be sent back home without even getting the chance to adjust status. To cut the long story short, since k1 is a one-time entry, we had to re-do everything from scratch, this time, with the cr1 or spousal visa route.

We are now in the NVC stage, and have already submitted the documents both for the affidavit of support and Immigration Visa packet..What we sent in as for the "marriage certificate" requirement, is a certified marriage license issued by the county clerk..I called up the NVC about that, and they kept insisting it's not what they need.. I don't understand why they wouldn't accept it, when it's all the county clerk could provide for us as certified copy of. It's top heading is "certified marriage license", at the top part of it, is the information about my husband (fiance then) and me. then the lower part of it, is the marriage information, as to where and when marriage took place and as to who married us,,with a raised seal on it and the signature of the clerk..it's a one-page document..I called up the county clerk about it, and would insist as well, that's all they issue..We were not sent an RFE yet, but I don't know how we're gonna get through this, in case this comes up as an issue..Anyone here, experienced, getting married in the USA, and only got to sent with heading "certified marriage license"? Tell me about ur experience please...I need clarity..And also, as for the AOS, my husband rounded off the tax income for years 2009-2011, is it gonna be fine, or can we expect RFE for that as well? Thank you so much for response!!!

Did your marriage license have the signatures of the witnesses and the justice of the peace or one who performed your ceremony on that document? If so probably not an issue at all. Also many states keep the marriage license on file and is not stored at the county clerks office (something that we found out). Have you checked your state clerk's website?

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When we got our marriage license, we took that to the minister who married us, he then after the ceremony, he signed a section at the bottom that contains all the details of our actual marriage date, along with our two witnesses, and he returned it to the County. When we went for our certified copy of the marriage certificate, what we got was a high-quality copy of that marriage license with all the signatures and marriage date info on it, centered on the top of the page, with all the legal certifications and raised seal on the bottom from the county. That IS our marriage certificate, and I noticed that "Marriage License" actually is the biggest word on the page, even though the document itself is actually our marriage certificate. I've heard that a marriage certificate from the STATE is actually requested in some contexts, and although we had an approved I-130 with no problem using this certificate, I wonder whether in your case, you might have to get a document from the state that has all the info from your current certificate printed up and typed into some standardized fashion...

I still don't understand, though. Have you actually been issued an RFE for this? Until you get one, I wouldn't start trying to decipher what they want.

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No..It does not have the signature of the witnesses or the one who officiated the marriage..It's a one-page document issued to us by the county clerk/courthouse, after the priest who married us, submitted the marriage license (that have the signatures on it, that you're saying), to the courthouse for recording..And so, all we were issued was this certified copy from the courthouse headed 'state of Indiana "certified marriage license" whitley county', that have the information about me and my husband, and the lower part of it shows the info bout of our marriage when where and who married us..That's all they issue, that's basically the certification already, that we are married

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A marriage license is a document authorizing a couple to marry and marriage certificate is given to the couple after the marriage ceremony. You must provide the MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE not the marriage license.

i do understand what a license is, and we applied for that of course so then we could get married..and after having gotten married,and the priest who married us, registered it to the courthouse, what we were issued was a "certified marriage license", with the information about our marriage this time, at the lower part..

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When we got our marriage license, we took that to the minister who married us, he then after the ceremony, he signed a section at the bottom that contains all the details of our actual marriage date, along with our two witnesses, and he returned it to the County. When we went for our certified copy of the marriage certificate, what we got was a high-quality copy of that marriage license with all the signatures and marriage date info on it, centered on the top of the page, with all the legal certifications and raised seal on the bottom from the county. That IS our marriage certificate, and I noticed that "Marriage License" actually is the biggest word on the page, even though the document itself is actually our marriage certificate. I've heard that a marriage certificate from the STATE is actually requested in some contexts, and although we had an approved I-130 with no problem using this certificate, I wonder whether in your case, you might have to get a document from the state that has all the info from your current certificate printed up and typed into some standardized fashion...

I still don't understand, though. Have you actually been issued an RFE for this? Until you get one, I wouldn't start trying to decipher what they want.

I think that's basically what i am meaning, it's the heading of the certified marriage license..no word certificate at all..but calling up the courthouse, it's just the wording, but that's all they issue..unfortunately, we dont have the signatures on that certification, but just plainly the information about our marriage

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I think that's basically what i am meaning, it's the heading of the certified marriage license..no word certificate at all..but calling up the courthouse, it's just the wording, but that's all they issue..unfortunately, we dont have the signatures on that certification, but just plainly the information about our marriage

I just dealt with a similar issue. My husband and I got married in Canada (where I am from) and when the NVC requested all of the documents required (including our marriage certificate) I sent them the one from the parish we were married in called Solemnization of Marriage. I received an email from the NVC stating that I sent them the wrong marriage certificate and that I needed to send them the one from the Land Registry Office in Toronto. I had no idea there were two different certificates. Anyway, I called Land Registry and paid extra money to get 5-day processing so I could get it to the NVC asap. You may have to contact the government dept. or agency that keeps track of marriages in the USA and request it from them. Best of luck to you!

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Hello Everyone..I just need help in having these all cleared off my head..

I was in the states with the k1 visa that I was previously granted before, thus, got married there..but due to complications on my timing of getting there, with hubby had to be away for several months, we decided that I just be sent back home without even getting the chance to adjust status. To cut the long story short, since k1 is a one-time entry, we had to re-do everything from scratch, this time, with the cr1 or spousal visa route.

We are now in the NVC stage, and have already submitted the documents both for the affidavit of support and Immigration Visa packet..What we sent in as for the "marriage certificate" requirement, is a certified marriage license issued by the county clerk..I called up the NVC about that, and they kept insisting it's not what they need.. I don't understand why they wouldn't accept it, when it's all the county clerk could provide for us as certified copy of. It's top heading is "certified marriage license", at the top part of it, is the information about my husband (fiance then) and me. then the lower part of it, is the marriage information, as to where and when marriage took place and as to who married us,,with a raised seal on it and the signature of the clerk..it's a one-page document..I called up the county clerk about it, and would insist as well, that's all they issue..We were not sent an RFE yet, but I don't know how we're gonna get through this, in case this comes up as an issue..Anyone here, experienced, getting married in the USA, and only got to sent with heading "certified marriage license"? Tell me about ur experience please...I need clarity..And also, as for the AOS, my husband rounded off the tax income for years 2009-2011, is it gonna be fine, or can we expect RFE for that as well? Thank you so much for response!!!

I'm thinking that someone at the NVC isn't understanding what you are telling them. They probably think it is just a copy of the license and are not realizing that it has the marriage return included. If it has the marriage return it acts as proof that you were married. Some states only issue the combined license and marriage return, some states only issue the marriage certificate. I believe it will be accepted when your documents are viewed by some

10/16/2010 - Married
02/16/2011 - I-130 sent
02/18/2011 - I-130 received
02/22/2011 - NOA1
06/06/2011 - NOA2
06/24/2011 - NVC received
06/28/2011 - Received DS-3032 and I-864 bill
06/29/2011 - Emailed DS-3032 and paid I-864 bill
07/06/2011 - Emailed DS-3032 again
07/08/2011 - DS-3032 accepted and IV bill received
07/11/2011 - Paid IV bill
08/06/2011 - DS-230 sent to NVC
08/08/2011 - DS-230 received at NVC
08/10/2011 - I-864 sent to NVC
08/12/2011 - I-864 received at NVC
08/15/2011 - DS-230 entered into system, received false RFE on AVR for I-864
08/18/2011 - SIF & Case Complete
09/01/2011 - Interview date assigned
09/26/2011 - Medical Exam
10/24/2011 - Interview/Visa approved
10/28/2011 - Received Visa

11/11/2011 - POE SLC, UT
12/01/2011 - Welcome Letter and Receipt received from USCIS
12/06/2011 - Green Card received
12/20/2011 - Security Social Card received

09/19/2013 - I-751 sent to California Service Center

09/24/2013 - I-751 delivered to California Service Center

09/28/2013 - NOA received in mail, NOA date 09/24/2013

10/06/2013 - Biometrics Letter received in mail

10/15/2013 - Biometrics Appointment

12/30/2013 - Card production ordered

01/02/2014 - Card mailed

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Hello Everyone..I just need help in having these all cleared off my head..

I was in the states with the k1 visa that I was previously granted before, thus, got married there..but due to complications on my timing of getting there, with hubby had to be away for several months, we decided that I just be sent back home without even getting the chance to adjust status. To cut the long story short, since k1 is a one-time entry, we had to re-do everything from scratch, this time, with the cr1 or spousal visa route.

We are now in the NVC stage, and have already submitted the documents both for the affidavit of support and Immigration Visa packet..What we sent in as for the "marriage certificate" requirement, is a certified marriage license issued by the county clerk..I called up the NVC about that, and they kept insisting it's not what they need.. I don't understand why they wouldn't accept it, when it's all the county clerk could provide for us as certified copy of. It's top heading is "certified marriage license", at the top part of it, is the information about my husband (fiance then) and me. then the lower part of it, is the marriage information, as to where and when marriage took place and as to who married us,,with a raised seal on it and the signature of the clerk..it's a one-page document..I called up the county clerk about it, and would insist as well, that's all they issue..We were not sent an RFE yet, but I don't know how we're gonna get through this, in case this comes up as an issue..Anyone here, experienced, getting married in the USA, and only got to sent with heading "certified marriage license"? Tell me about ur experience please...I need clarity..And also, as for the AOS, my husband rounded off the tax income for years 2009-2011, is it gonna be fine, or can we expect RFE for that as well? Thank you so much for response!!!

I'm thinking that someone at the NVC isn't understanding what you are telling them. They probably think it is just a copy of the license and are not realizing that it has the marriage return included. If it has the marriage return, it acts as proof that you were married. Some states only issue the combined license and marriage return, some states only issue the marriage certificate. I believe it will be accepted when your documents are viewed by someone at the NVC. Try not to worry and keep in mind that I was once told by the NVC that my joint sponsors U.S. birth certificate would not be accepted as their proof of citizenship. They kept insisting that they would only accept a passport. hahaha I knew they were wrong and the birth cert. was accepted. Wishing you all the best! :)

10/16/2010 - Married
02/16/2011 - I-130 sent
02/18/2011 - I-130 received
02/22/2011 - NOA1
06/06/2011 - NOA2
06/24/2011 - NVC received
06/28/2011 - Received DS-3032 and I-864 bill
06/29/2011 - Emailed DS-3032 and paid I-864 bill
07/06/2011 - Emailed DS-3032 again
07/08/2011 - DS-3032 accepted and IV bill received
07/11/2011 - Paid IV bill
08/06/2011 - DS-230 sent to NVC
08/08/2011 - DS-230 received at NVC
08/10/2011 - I-864 sent to NVC
08/12/2011 - I-864 received at NVC
08/15/2011 - DS-230 entered into system, received false RFE on AVR for I-864
08/18/2011 - SIF & Case Complete
09/01/2011 - Interview date assigned
09/26/2011 - Medical Exam
10/24/2011 - Interview/Visa approved
10/28/2011 - Received Visa

11/11/2011 - POE SLC, UT
12/01/2011 - Welcome Letter and Receipt received from USCIS
12/06/2011 - Green Card received
12/20/2011 - Security Social Card received

09/19/2013 - I-751 sent to California Service Center

09/24/2013 - I-751 delivered to California Service Center

09/28/2013 - NOA received in mail, NOA date 09/24/2013

10/06/2013 - Biometrics Letter received in mail

10/15/2013 - Biometrics Appointment

12/30/2013 - Card production ordered

01/02/2014 - Card mailed

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I'm thinking that someone at the NVC isn't understanding what you are telling them. They probably think it is just a copy of the license and are not realizing that it has the marriage return included. If it has the marriage return, it acts as proof that you were married. Some states only issue the combined license and marriage return, some states only issue the marriage certificate. I believe it will be accepted when your documents are viewed by someone at the NVC. Try not to worry and keep in mind that I was once told by the NVC that my joint sponsors U.S. birth certificate would not be accepted as their proof of citizenship. They kept insisting that they would only accept a passport. hahaha I knew they were wrong and the birth cert. was accepted. Wishing you all the best! :)

Thank you so much for your kind words and for the hope it gives me!!!I really appreciate them, in the name of Jesus, I am pleading for this to go through..

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Thank you so much for your kind words and for the hope it gives me!!!I really appreciate them, in the name of Jesus, I am pleading for this to go through..

You're welcome and I will be keeping you in my thoughts and prayers. :)

10/16/2010 - Married
02/16/2011 - I-130 sent
02/18/2011 - I-130 received
02/22/2011 - NOA1
06/06/2011 - NOA2
06/24/2011 - NVC received
06/28/2011 - Received DS-3032 and I-864 bill
06/29/2011 - Emailed DS-3032 and paid I-864 bill
07/06/2011 - Emailed DS-3032 again
07/08/2011 - DS-3032 accepted and IV bill received
07/11/2011 - Paid IV bill
08/06/2011 - DS-230 sent to NVC
08/08/2011 - DS-230 received at NVC
08/10/2011 - I-864 sent to NVC
08/12/2011 - I-864 received at NVC
08/15/2011 - DS-230 entered into system, received false RFE on AVR for I-864
08/18/2011 - SIF & Case Complete
09/01/2011 - Interview date assigned
09/26/2011 - Medical Exam
10/24/2011 - Interview/Visa approved
10/28/2011 - Received Visa

11/11/2011 - POE SLC, UT
12/01/2011 - Welcome Letter and Receipt received from USCIS
12/06/2011 - Green Card received
12/20/2011 - Security Social Card received

09/19/2013 - I-751 sent to California Service Center

09/24/2013 - I-751 delivered to California Service Center

09/28/2013 - NOA received in mail, NOA date 09/24/2013

10/06/2013 - Biometrics Letter received in mail

10/15/2013 - Biometrics Appointment

12/30/2013 - Card production ordered

01/02/2014 - Card mailed

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