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Here is great source of education in the proper use of the English vernacular

You need to be more specific as to which definition of the word 'vernacular' you refer. It seems vernacular is one of those words with several meanings, so we must keep off using its less common or more archaic form, must we not?

Vernacular

a : using a language or dialect native to a region or country rather than a literary, cultured, or foreign language b : of, relating to, or being a nonstandard language or dialect of a place, region, or country c : of, relating to, or being the normal spoken form of a language 2 : applied to a plant or animal in the common native speech as distinguished from the Latin nomenclature of scientific classification <the vernacular name> 3 : of, relating to, or characteristic of a period, place, or group; especially : of, relating to, or being the common building style of a period or place <vernacular architecture>

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You need to be more specific as to which definition of the word 'vernacular' you refer. It seems vernacular is one of those words with several meanings, so we must keep off using its less common or more archaic form, must we not?

Vernacular

a : using a language or dialect native to a region or country rather than a literary, cultured, or foreign language b : of, relating to, or being a nonstandard language or dialect of a place, region, or country c : of, relating to, or being the normal spoken form of a language 2 : applied to a plant or animal in the common native speech as distinguished from the Latin nomenclature of scientific classification <the vernacular name> 3 : of, relating to, or characteristic of a period, place, or group; especially : of, relating to, or being the common building style of a period or place <vernacular architecture>

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I prefer the very old vernacular of all the Anglo Cynne (all the English family) (cynne being 'Kin' like family)

It's a fascinating legacy and the Americans of English ancestry would do well to embrace it rather than divorce their roots and start their history in 1776. My last house was built in 1725 so 1776 isn't very old at all.

Here is some yorkshire vernacular which is little older than me:

"Heill thu nu Eirekr ! vel skaltu her kommin ! ok gakk i haoll hoskr"

Hail to you Eric, be welcome here and come into the hall, gallant king"

The americans of Polish and Germanic history can always research the history of the sausage

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I'm starting to get dizzy watching you chase your tail.

The point is that many resent the fact that gasoline at the pump in America costs far less that in most other places, as though we had any say on the matter or as though we had any special deal on the price of oil or gasoline.

Oil and gas are commodities and their grudge against Americans would be better served by being redirected at their governments who choose to practice excessive taxes on fuel.

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The point is that many resent the fact that gasoline at the pump in America costs far less that in most other places, as though we had any say on the matter or as though we had any special deal on the price of oil or gasoline.

Oil and gas are commodities and their grudge against Americans would be better served by being redirected at their governments who choose to practice excessive taxes on fuel.

Took you 4 pages to finally admit that. Nice.

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The point is that many resent the fact that gasoline at the pump in America costs far less that in most other places, as though we had any say on the matter or as though we had any special deal on the price of oil or gasoline.

Oil and gas are commodities and their grudge against Americans would be better served by being redirected at their governments who choose to practice excessive taxes on fuel.

One man's "excessive tax" is another man's "insufficient tax"

At least the high taxers have more economical cars and spend the tax on the health of their people - rather than being cold to the condition of their fellow citizens

(jeez that was almost back to topic)

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I prefer the very old vernacular of all the Anglo Cynne (all the English family) (cynne being 'Kin' like family)

It's a fascinating legacy and the Americans of English ancestry would do well to embrace it rather than divorce their roots and start their history in 1776. My last house was built in 1725 so 1776 isn't very old at all.

Here is some yorkshire vernacular which is little older than me:

"Heill thu nu Eirekr ! vel skaltu her kommin ! ok gakk i haoll hoskr"

Hail to you Eric, be welcome here and come into the hall, gallant king"

The americans of Polish and Germanic history can always research the history of the sausage

Alas, we all do. Not only we embrace the language but we also made it our own.

Even with Yorkshire, Americans improved and came um with an exceedingly better version for it, aptly named City of New York with its own vernacular, which incidentally became world famous for its frankfurters as well.

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At least the high taxers have more economical cars ...

Not necessarily true. Cheaper in price or smaller in size do not make them more economical.

Besides, if it is a matter of taxation, again, this would be a grudge better addressed and directed at each local government, and not at Americans.

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Alas, we all do. Not only we embrace the language but we also made it our own.

Even with Yorkshire, Americans improved and came um with an exceedingly better version for it, aptly named City of New York with its own vernacular, which incidentally became world famous for its frankfurters as well.

Everyone knows that evolution include some life forms which actually degenerate and go backwards due to overly benign and isolated surrounding conditions

American English can be included in that but at least Bill Gates know that and describes it as American English rather than English. He still wont go with the concept of "American" as a language any more than Jamaican patois such as "I am on the phone - I deh pon de phone" can be mainstream

In Borneo. Prince Phillip is known as "Man belong Quinn" and that is better than some of the stuff I hear on a daily basis

I can't quote examples as my brain rejects any recollection of such horrors as a defence mechanism

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Not necessarily true. Cheaper in price or smaller in size do not make them more economical.

Besides, if it is a matter of taxation, again, this would be a grudge better addressed and directed at each local government, and not at Americans.

Are you suggesting that a V8 6.5 liter pickup is more economical that a 1 liter ford KA ?

Why do we have to keep lurching back into the surreal ?

It must be like this listening to a Sarah Palin speech

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