Appears "PUT NAME of Poster Here" Constitutional Experts Were Wrong

[DEDixon 39]

Fair dinkum!

What I cant understand, is why dont they plug the border first and then think about the next steps. IMHO it makes as much sense as fixing the water damage before the leak is contained and repaired.

Congress keeps saying they want comprehensive immigration reform so turn the whole thing upside down all at once, no piece-mealing (they can't agree enough to do this). But I agree, stop the flood, close the gate, then tackle the rest comprehensively.

Back to populist: Obama had 2 years where he had dems controlling both congresses, but completely ignored immigration reform. Now he wants to appease them with this new policy. Shame!

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

Not precisely - I just read in an article that the stops will begin. They are going to do nothing. Again, I don't know how it will play out, but it isn't as you have written above, I don't think they'll be that passive in AZ.

You might be right, I noticed Brewer doesn't quite seem to realize the ramifications of the ruling (or she's putting on a brave face).

if AZ does try to detain someone and it comes out that the only reason for the detention was immigration related it will go right back into the courts.

[JohnR! 5,495]

Congress keeps saying they want comprehensive immigration reform so turn the whole thing upside down all at once, no piece-mealing (they can't agree enough to do this). But I agree, stop the flood, close the gate, then tackle the rest comprehensively.

Back to populist: Obama had 2 years where he had dems controlling both congresses, but completely ignored immigration reform. Now he wants to appease them with this new policy. Shame!

And yet, he increased the number of CBP agents from the Bush era... It is very intriguing that nobody seemed concerned with the situation of immigration during the eight years 'The Decider' was in the White House.

What I find even more intriguing, if not downright hypocritical, is that those who how criticize President Obama for his exec decision are most of the same who applauded Reagan's full fledged amnesty back in the 80's. And yet, nobody care about the situation of our borders. 4,000 miles on the north, another 2,000 to the south and everyone seems to have missed them.

Edited June 25, 2012 by Gegel

[DEDixon 39]

You might be right, I noticed Brewer doesn't quite seem to realize the ramifications of the ruling (or she's putting on a brave face).

if AZ does try to detain someone and it comes out that the only reason for the detention was immigration related it will go right back into the courts.

I don't know if the justices meant this would be the case for it to return to court, but they did say that more suits were possible as a result of upholding the law.

It is a wait and see thing for me. My post is more about what the experts said and what really happened.

[DEDixon 39]

And yet, he increased the number of CBP agents from the Bush era... It is very intriguing that nobody seemed concerned with the situation of immigration during the eight years 'The Decider' was in the White House.

What I find even more intriguing, if not downright hypocritical, is that those who how criticize President Obama for his exec decision are most of the same who applauded Reagan's full fledged amnesty back in the 80's. And yet, nobody care about the situation of our borders. 4,000 miles on the north, another 2,000 to the south and everyone seems to have missed them.

Bush was in favor of immigration reform, it was the republicans in congress that were not. Bush's stance was more pro-latino than anyone thought possible, but not very many speak of the many Latinos in the Bush family being from Texan more than a few in the Bush family are Latinos (married into the Bush family).

[james&olya 1,121]

I don't know if the justices meant this would be the case for it to return to court, but they did say that more suits were possible as a result of upholding the law.

It is a wait and see thing for me. My post is more about what the experts said and what really happened.

I think that the reason this part was not struck down (yet) was that there is at least the theoretical possibility that Arizona will not try to use this law in a racially discriminatory way. Maybe they actually understand and appreciate how important it is that they not discriminate based on racial appearances. They did very clearly leave it open for future challenges and to possibly be struck down if the law is applied in a way that conflicts with federal civil rights. I think that sheriff Joe is going to have a really tough time keeping his hands clean on this one. It will be interesting to watch!