Dual Citizenship, marriage and baby ^_^

[Bitsu 1]

Hello, just needed information regarding about this situations,

I am a dual citizen (U.S and Philippines). I stayed here in the Philippines to study and still residing here.

1.First question is, I am planning to get married here in the Philippines, which citizenship should I use. Am I going to choose between the two. I don't want to lose my U.S citizenship, but I am not sure what procedure to do for this.

2.Next question is about my baby, I am 4 months pregnant. Will s/he be able to obtain my dual citizenship if I deliver my baby here in the Philippines.

Will it be automatically dual citizen for my baby or I have to file some papers for my baby to become dual.

:D :D

Thank you for taking the time to read and reply to my message!!

God Bless!

[belinda63 3,052]

Don't really know the answer to #1 but to answer #2 we would need to know how long you resided in the US (total years) and how many years after you turned 14.

[Bitsu 1]

Don't really know the answer to #1 but to answer #2 we would need to know how long you resided in the US (total years) and how many years after you turned 14.

Thanks for replying! Total years I resided in the U.S is 7 years, and after I turned 14 (3 years). ~started middle school till high school there.

[Penguin_ie 5,997]

Then you can file CRBA (Consular Report of Birth Abroad) for your baby and she will get a US passport.

[Bitsu 1]

Then you can file CRBA (Consular Report of Birth Abroad) for your baby and she will get a US passport.

I read a couple post about CRBA, it seems like the U.S citizen parent reside in US and I guess that's

where he would process the application. In my situation is it okay if i just file here and send my baby's

application there? I don't think I would go back yet..

[belinda63 3,052]

You would file for it at the local US embassy there.

[Bitsu 1]

You would file for it at the local US embassy there.

Thank you!

[Bitsu 1]

For applying CRBA, do they need the original high school transcript to prove that I am a US citizen?

[Penguin_ie 5,997]

Not necessarily, but you will need to prove that you lived in the USA 5 years, at least 2 of which after age 14. Highschool transcripts are a good way to do that.

[Hank_ 9,174]

For applying CRBA, do they need the original high school transcript to prove that I am a US citizen?

School records don't prove citizenship, they prove you went to school. If you are a U.S. citizen you should have a certificate of citizenship, from the age you mentioned I would guess you became a citizen when your parents did their process.

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=32dffe9dd4aa3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60aRCRD&vgnextchannel=32dffe9dd4aa3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60aRCRD

[Mark and Rassel 9]

Bitsu,

The only difference between your US citizenship (naturalized) and mine (Texan) is that technically I can be the president of the US (unlikely) and you cannot - period. There are no other differences, you are treated, by law, in exactly the same way. So, if you want to be married in New Jersey or Manila, from the US gov'ts perspective it makes no difference. When you get your pre-marital certificate, get it as a US citizen. When you get your 'CENOMAR' you go to the US Embassy in Manila and swear an oath and get a certificate. Do everything, including travel, as a US citizen. There are no laws of the Philippines that I'm aware of that forces you to be married as a Philippine citizen if you are also a US citizen. Don't renounce either, just be married as a US citizen. You still must follow all requirements of Philippine law if you get married in the RP as I did. Did you enter the Philippines as a US citizen? If not, leave and re-enter the country before you start your marriage process and re-enter as a U.S. citizen. I'd certainly get an appointment with the US embassy in Manila and talk to your fellow countrymen about what you are doing and its possible citizenship ramifications. The only rule change that I can think of is that (god forbid), your marriage fails. Then you'd have to renounce your Philippine Citizenship in the US and file for divorce in the US in order to finalize it . . . even that I'm not sure of though . . .

Regards,

Mark!

[Tahoma 2,292]

1.First question is, I am planning to get married here in the Philippines, which citizenship should I use. Am I going to choose between the two. I don't want to lose my U.S citizenship, but I am not sure what procedure to do for this.

^^^ No matter how you decide to get married, you won't lose your U.S. citizenship.

When you get your 'CENOMAR' you go to the US Embassy in Manila and swear an oath and get a certificate.

^^^ I don't understand what you are saying. Why would Bitsu need a CENOMAR? Why would Bitsu then need to go to the Embassy and swear an oath? An oath to what? What certificate are you referring to? Are you referring to the "Affidavit in Lieu of Legal Capacity to Marry?"

Did you enter the Philippines as a US citizen? If not, leave and re-enter the country before you start your marriage process and re-enter as a U.S. citizen.

^^^ Why are you recommending that Bitsu reenter the Philippines on her U.S. passport? What difference would it make?

I'd certainly get an appointment with the US embassy in Manila and talk to your fellow countrymen about what you are doing and its possible citizenship ramifications.

^^^ Unnecessary. Bitsu's citizenship is not going to be affected by getting married in the Philippines.

The only rule change that I can think of is that (god forbid), your marriage fails. Then you'd have to renounce your Philippine Citizenship in the US and file for divorce in the US in order to finalize it . . . even that I'm not sure of though . . .

^^^ Nonsense!

[reginakrys 33]

For applying CRBA, do they need the original high school transcript to prove that I am a US citizen?

You need a certificate of naturalization or a US passport to prove you are a citizen. High school records prove that you've had physical presence in the US, which is another requirement for you to pass on citizenship to your child.

[Bitsu 1]

Bitsu,

The only difference between your US citizenship (naturalized) and mine (Texan) is that technically I can be the president of the US (unlikely) and you cannot - period. There are no other differences, you are treated, by law, in exactly the same way. So, if you want to be married in New Jersey or Manila, from the US gov'ts perspective it makes no difference. When you get your pre-marital certificate, get it as a US citizen. When you get your 'CENOMAR' you go to the US Embassy in Manila and swear an oath and get a certificate. Do everything, including travel, as a US citizen. There are no laws of the Philippines that I'm aware of that forces you to be married as a Philippine citizen if you are also a US citizen. Don't renounce either, just be married as a US citizen. You still must follow all requirements of Philippine law if you get married in the RP as I did. Did you enter the Philippines as a US citizen? If not, leave and re-enter the country before you start your marriage process and re-enter as a U.S. citizen. I'd certainly get an appointment with the US embassy in Manila and talk to your fellow countrymen about what you are doing and its possible citizenship ramifications. The only rule change that I can think of is that (god forbid), your marriage fails. Then you'd have to renounce your Philippine Citizenship in the US and file for divorce in the US in order to finalize it . . . even that I'm not sure of though . . .

Regards,

Mark!

:D Thanks so much for replying!! As for me entering the Philippines, I know before I went here I was already dual citizen in the US. My father file for it before i came back here, but when i travel to go to Philippines I remember i used my U.S passport ( does that mean i enter the Philippines as a US citizen?)

Another question: What would constitute parental advice? The US embassy requires people up to age 24 to have parental advice prior to marrying? Does it mean I have to present an evidence to prove that I received parental advice like a written consent? Thank you.

Edited June 25, 2012 by Bitsu

[Hank_ 9,174]

U.S. "requires" that you travel with your U.S. passport.