Sanford Police Chief Bill Lee fired in wake of Trayvon Martin case.

[PMartin37 161]

Forget about crime on black on black, I gave you an recent example from Arizona where shooter was black guy, he was not even arrested so why zimmerman?

Arizona police chief was not fired.

I just don't understand your logic why this case is so much different and why ppl involved in this case should be punished but other are allowed to go free?

Obviously, just because one person is allowed to go free does not make them innocent. And perhaps that black man should have been arrested. I'm not familiar at all with that case so I can't say. The reason why- because it didn't have nearly the media coverage of the Martin/Zimmerman case. If more cases like these were put in the spotlight, perhaps many changes would be made. I personally think they should be in the spotlight because there clearly are some problems with these stand your ground laws because some people think they translate into taking the law into their own hands or simply just an excuse to murder someone that you have a conflict with.

[rocks 494]

Obviously, just because one person is allowed to go free does not make them innocent. And perhaps that black man should have been arrested. I'm not familiar at all with that case so I can't say. The reason why- because it didn't have nearly the media coverage of the Martin/Zimmerman case. If more cases like these were put in the spotlight, perhaps many changes would be made. I personally think they should be in the spotlight because there clearly are some problems with these stand your ground laws because some people think they translate into taking the law into their own hands or simply just an excuse to murder someone that you have a conflict with.

In this other story there seems to have been some issue involving a vehicle at a Taco Bell drive thru and a mentally disabled pedestrian. He was shot and killed after an argument, it is a sad story for sure. If I remember correctly, the article stated that this happened while his pregnant girlfriend was in the vehicle. I fail to see how this relates to the Martin/Zimmerman case though?

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

I don't know, and I don't really care. Thanks for baiting.

There was no baiting in my post, it was an honest question.

Hispanic people for the most part are easily recognizable due to factors such as dark hair, dark skin, even the shape of their face. It's due to the negroid genes after the invasion and occupation of Spain by the Moors. It was furthered in the Western Hemisphere in such places as Cuba and Puerto Rico with the mix of Africans.

You can see this in Spanish Harlem, or even Spain itself. There are blonde and blue eyed Spaniards but those are few and far between.

Edited June 22, 2012 by Bad_Daddy

[naplesguy 25]

This can be racial too, he was fired by African American city manager fired White police chief.

As per city manager’s own statement he had been thinking about it for while to fire the police chief, is it retaliation?

There was similar case in Arizona on April 30th 2012 a Hispanic guy was shoot by an African American guy outside the Taco Bell and he claimed it was self defense.

The shooter was never arrested nor a case was filed nor did ppl marched for shooter to be arrested.

What my point is just coz ppl came out on the street and African American leaders came out in protest make Zimmerman Guilty nor should the Police Chief did anything different and he did not deserved to be fired.

[CarlosAndSveta 808]

Which is not Hispanic?

The girl in the top picture with the brown hair. She is a mix of Australian Aborigine an Australian Anglo. The two blonde headed girls are from Spain.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

The girl in the top picture with the brown hair. She is a mix of Australian Aborigine an Australian Anglo. The two blonde headed girls are from Spain.

[Teddy B 17,252]

I am beginning to sound like a broken record on this but "Hispanic" is not a race. You can be Hispanic and white, Hispanic and black, etc. Zimmerman is both Hispanic and white, as am I. There is no one Hispanic "look."

/lesson

I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. I said that by all accounts Zimmerman appears more Hispanic than he does white, am I wrong in saying that? He is Hispanic, you said so yourself. I am white, half Italian and half English, but my Italian features are more prominent, should people not refer to me as white even though I am? Is there only one white look, or are there many features that would qualify someone as being white?

There was no racial undertone at all by my referring to Zimmermans features as Hispanic, they are, and he is.

Edited June 22, 2012 by Teddy B

[rocks 494]

I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. I said that by all accounts Zimmerman appears more Hispanic than he does white, am I wrong in saying that? He is Hispanic, you said so yourself. I am white, half Italian and half English, but my Italian features are more prominent, should people not refer to me as white even though I am? Is there only one white look, or are there many features that would qualify someone as being white?

There was no racial undertone at all by my referring to Zimmermans features as Hispanic, they are, and he is.

That wasn't how it came across.

Did you read about the Danziger Bridge Shootings yet?

Edited June 22, 2012 by rocks

[Teddy B 17,252]

That wasn't how it came across.

Did you read about the Danziger Bridge Shootings yet?

Must be that clouded judgement kicking in again.

[rocks 494]

Must be that clouded judgement kicking in again.

Back to the insults already? It's so early! Did you read about the Danziger Bridge Shootings yet? I'm assuming no, you're just going to assert your "black killings" comment as true because it's your opinion, and that's all that matters.

[Harsh_77 718]

No. Read what I said... It's pretty simple. What you said is because of this other case that is nothing to do with this at all, then you didn't think Zimmerman should have been arrested. You should go away and think about how ridiculous that sounds.

You just demonstrated your level oh comprehension

[Harsh_77 718]

Obviously, just because one person is allowed to go free does not make them innocent. And perhaps that black man should have been arrested. I'm not familiar at all with that case so I can't say. The reason why- because it didn't have nearly the media coverage of the Martin/Zimmerman case. If more cases like these were put in the spotlight, perhaps many changes would be made. I personally think they should be in the spotlight because there clearly are some problems with these stand your ground laws because some people think they translate into taking the law into their own hands or simply just an excuse to murder someone that you have a conflict with.

You are right on the dot…. Just coz one case was hyped up by media and that too media botched up the details and now just ppl think person who shot committed crime.

[Harsh_77 718]

In this other story there seems to have been some issue involving a vehicle at a Taco Bell drive thru and a mentally disabled pedestrian. He was shot and killed after an argument, it is a sad story for sure. If I remember correctly, the article stated that this happened while his pregnant girlfriend was in the vehicle. I fail to see how this relates to the Martin/Zimmerman case though?

No cases are exact same... the similarity is the guy who shot also claims stand your ground.

Preg Gf had nothing to do with the case she was just in the car (additional detail included thanks to media)

Zimmerman case, he was attacked by travyor....and Zimmerman shot him back other case a mentally disabled guy flipped a guy and guy shot him.

Which is more heinous crime? Which shooter should be prosecuted?

[JohnR! 5,495]

I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. I said that by all accounts Zimmerman appears more Hispanic than he does white, am I wrong in saying that? He is Hispanic, you said so yourself. I am white, half Italian and half English, but my Italian features are more prominent, should people not refer to me as white even though I am? Is there only one white look, or are there many features that would qualify someone as being white?

There was no racial undertone at all by my referring to Zimmermans features as Hispanic, they are, and he is.

Hispanic is not a race, and that is where many get confused. Hispanic is a cultural trace, not a physical attribute. For that matter, many 'latinos' have never set foot in Central or South America, but that does not prevent us from using all these misnomers.

It is no different than equating incorrectly African-American and black, as though all Africans are black or v.v.

Edited June 22, 2012 by Gegel

[Teddy B 17,252]

Hispanic is not a race, and that is where many get confused. Hispanic is a cultural trace, not a physical attribute. For that matter, many 'latinos' have never set foot in Central or South America, but that does not prevent us from using all these misnomers.

It is no different than equating incorrectly African-American and black, as though all Africans are black or v.v.

I never claimed that the word Hispanic referred to a race, it is a word used to describe a very large group of people, including those of Portuguese decent. I used the word correctly.

Definitions in the United StatesSee also: Ethnic groups in the United States, History of Hispanic and Latino Americans, Race and ethnicity in the United States Census, and Hispanic/Latino naming dispute

The U.S. Office of Management and Budget currently defines "Hispanic or Latino" as "a person of Mexican, Puerto Rican, Cuban, South or Central American, or other Spanish culture or origin, regardless of race".[35] The 2010 Census asked if the person was "Spanish/Hispanic/Latino".

"The terms "Hispanic" or "Latino" refer to persons who trace their origin or descent to Mexico, Puerto Rico, Cuba, Spanish speaking Central and South America countries, and other Spanish cultures. Origin can be considered as the heritage, nationality group, lineage, or country of the person or the person's parents or ancestors before their arrival in the United States. People who identify their origin as Hispanic or Latino may be of any race."[36]

The U.S. Department of Transportation defines Hispanic as, "persons of Mexican, Puerto Rican, Cuban, Dominican, Central or South American, or others Spanish or Portuguese culture or origin, regardless of race."[37] This definition has been adopted by the Small Business Administration as well as by many federal, state, and municipal agencies for the purposes of awarding government contracts to minority owned businesses. The Congressional Hispanic Caucus and the Congressional Hispanic Conference include representatives of Spanish and Portuguese descent. The Hispanic Society of America is dedicated to the study of the arts and cultures of Spain, Portugal, and Latin America. The Hispanic Association of Colleges and Universities, proclaimed champions of Hispanic success in higher education, is committed to Hispanic educational success in the U.S., Puerto Rico, Latin America, Spain, and Portugal.

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